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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Nov 14 5.04pm
Well anyone can call me a "Bloody limey" and I won't be offended ! I have been called enough names in my time ! In Australia some chap shouted at me "Like most Poms you are as tight as a camel's a...e in a sandstorm" - It was meant to insult but I burst out laughing !
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Nov 14 5.04pm

Well anyone can call me a "Bloody limey" and I won't be offended ! I have been called enough names in my time ! In Australia some chap shouted at me "Like most Poms you are as tight as a camel's a...e in a sandstorm" - It was meant to insult but I burst out laughing !

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Pawson Palace Croydon 21 Nov 14 5.05pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.44pm . Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Nov 2014 4.47pm) That's a shame, I was about to respond to your post! Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though Sorry chap- I realised I was ranting and was looking a bit of a dick. I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did! Pride of South London Upper Holmesdale Block P
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Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm

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Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Nov 2014 4.47pm)

That's a shame, I was about to respond to your post!

Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though

Sorry chap- I realised I was ranting and was looking a bit of a dick.

I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did!

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Seth On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.08pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 5.05pm Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.44pm . Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Nov 2014 4.47pm) That's a shame, I was about to respond to your post! Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though Sorry chap- I realised I was ranting and was looking a bit of a dick. I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did! Not in my eyes you weren't pal. Just having a good old debate which is what these boards are for! No hard feelings ever though - it's not worth that much. We're all Palace after all "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.08pm

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That's a shame, I was about to respond to your post!

Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though

Sorry chap- I realised I was ranting and was looking a bit of a dick.

I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did!

Not in my eyes you weren't pal. Just having a good old debate which is what these boards are for! No hard feelings ever though - it's not worth that much. We're all Palace after all

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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Seth On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.09pm
Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 5.04pm Well anyone can call me a "Bloody limey" and I won't be offended ! I have been called enough names in my time ! In Australia some chap shouted at me "Like most Poms you are as tight as a camel's a...e in a sandstorm" - It was meant to insult but I burst out laughing ! It's great you can laugh it off Willo but for people who have suffered genuine discrimination and/or racism it's not always a laughing matter. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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Seth

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Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 5.04pm

It's great you can laugh it off Willo but for people who have suffered genuine discrimination and/or racism it's not always a laughing matter.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
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Stuk Top half 21 Nov 14 5.09pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.57pm Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 4.51pm Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.40pm Quote Ian J at 21 Nov 2014 4.38pm Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 4.21pm Quote Mapletree at 21 Nov 2014 4.10pm Japanese people think "Jap" is racist . Do they ? For what reason ? To my mind "Jap" is just a shortened form of Japanese. Enlighten me, is there some deep-seated historical or other reason why "Jap" is considered racist ? [Link] In the United States, the word 'Jap' was sometimes used as a contraction of 'Japanese' before WWII. It wasn't considered derogatory. That's why willo didn't know it was derogatory. His cultural awareness was halted at the turn of the 20th century To back Willo up here somewhat. Jap is not considered racist, and if it is there is an awful lot of companies breaking the law if you google search for "jap" and then parts or cars etc. I believe Nips was the offensive terms, which is an abbreviation of the word they use for Japan. If you read the link IanJ posted you'll find it is: Q: Is the word Jap considered derogatory? Yes, this phrase is widely considered a racial slur. Much of the English speaking world and the Japanese themselves consider this to be a derogatory term. If you use this word to describe Japanese people or culture — you are likely to offend. That's one person's opinion as far as I can see, but i'm sure there's others that share the opinion. Do you think there would be multiple companies operating as "Jap" something if it was offensive, no matter the context? Optimistic as ever
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Japanese people think "Jap" is racist .

Do they ? For what reason ? To my mind "Jap" is just a shortened form of Japanese. Enlighten me, is there some deep-seated historical or other reason why "Jap" is considered racist ?

[Link]

In the United States, the word 'Jap' was sometimes used as a contraction of 'Japanese' before WWII. It wasn't considered derogatory.

That's why willo didn't know it was derogatory. His cultural awareness was halted at the turn of the 20th century

To back Willo up here somewhat. Jap is not considered racist, and if it is there is an awful lot of companies breaking the law if you google search for "jap" and then parts or cars etc.

I believe Nips was the offensive terms, which is an abbreviation of the word they use for Japan.

If you read the link IanJ posted you'll find it is:

Q: Is the word Jap considered derogatory?

Yes, this phrase is widely considered a racial slur.

Much of the English speaking world and the Japanese themselves consider this to be a derogatory term. If you use this word to describe Japanese people or culture — you are likely to offend.

That's one person's opinion as far as I can see, but i'm sure there's others that share the opinion. Do you think there would be multiple companies operating as "Jap" something if it was offensive, no matter the context?

Optimistic as ever

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Seth On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.16pm
Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 5.09pm Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.57pm Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 4.51pm Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.40pm Quote Ian J at 21 Nov 2014 4.38pm Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 4.21pm Quote Mapletree at 21 Nov 2014 4.10pm Japanese people think "Jap" is racist . Do they ? For what reason ? To my mind "Jap" is just a shortened form of Japanese. Enlighten me, is there some deep-seated historical or other reason why "Jap" is considered racist ? [Link] In the United States, the word 'Jap' was sometimes used as a contraction of 'Japanese' before WWII. It wasn't considered derogatory. That's why willo didn't know it was derogatory. His cultural awareness was halted at the turn of the 20th century To back Willo up here somewhat. Jap is not considered racist, and if it is there is an awful lot of companies breaking the law if you google search for "jap" and then parts or cars etc. I believe Nips was the offensive terms, which is an abbreviation of the word they use for Japan. If you read the link IanJ posted you'll find it is: Q: Is the word Jap considered derogatory? Yes, this phrase is widely considered a racial slur. Much of the English speaking world and the Japanese themselves consider this to be a derogatory term. If you use this word to describe Japanese people or culture — you are likely to offend. That's one person's opinion as far as I can see, but i'm sure there's others that share the opinion. Do you think there would be multiple companies operating as "Jap" something if it was offensive, no matter the context? It's obviously more than one person's opinion, as you say. As for the companies, I don't know, but if I was in their shoes I'd choose another name for my business because in many people's eyes it is considered as derogatory. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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Seth

On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.16pm

Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 5.09pm

Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.57pm

Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 4.51pm

Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.40pm

Quote Ian J at 21 Nov 2014 4.38pm

Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 4.21pm

Quote Mapletree at 21 Nov 2014 4.10pm

Japanese people think "Jap" is racist .

Do they ? For what reason ? To my mind "Jap" is just a shortened form of Japanese. Enlighten me, is there some deep-seated historical or other reason why "Jap" is considered racist ?

[Link]

In the United States, the word 'Jap' was sometimes used as a contraction of 'Japanese' before WWII. It wasn't considered derogatory.

That's why willo didn't know it was derogatory. His cultural awareness was halted at the turn of the 20th century

To back Willo up here somewhat. Jap is not considered racist, and if it is there is an awful lot of companies breaking the law if you google search for "jap" and then parts or cars etc.

I believe Nips was the offensive terms, which is an abbreviation of the word they use for Japan.

If you read the link IanJ posted you'll find it is:

Q: Is the word Jap considered derogatory?

Yes, this phrase is widely considered a racial slur.

Much of the English speaking world and the Japanese themselves consider this to be a derogatory term. If you use this word to describe Japanese people or culture — you are likely to offend.

It's obviously more than one person's opinion, as you say. As for the companies, I don't know, but if I was in their shoes I'd choose another name for my business because in many people's eyes it is considered as derogatory.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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PALACE FOR EVER London 21 Nov 14 5.18pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.55pm Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.46pm Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.34pm Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.27pm Like the recent case with Top Gear....who here honestly knew Slope was supposed to be a derogatory comment for an Asian person? I didn't know that either, but the Top Gear presenters did (that's why they used it - to generate more publicity for themselves) and now I do know I won't use it (not that I did anyway, but you get what I mean). I guess thats my problem with some of this- being branded such and such when one might be oblivious to its meaning. In Whelans case I believe he has been very naive, but I dont think he intended to offend. Really he should have just maintained a dignified silence and let the results on the pitch do the talking. I think Whelan is old-fashioned and ignorant but probably not a racist. Like you however, I think he was extremely foolish to say what he did instead of just saying "Mackay made a mistake, he's apologised and now we move on". Instead he's given the story more legs than a caterpillar and ensured it's stayed on the back (and front) pages than it would've done if he'd just kept schtum about the whole thing. I agree. he's added to what Mackay said. He does say he was mis-quoted but why say anything, As you say all he had to say was all what Mackay sent/emailed was wrong, which is what he has now said. I'm sure the media/press would still have said/written articles about the situation but nothing like what has happened & will continue. If everything stays the same the next big news story will be when the FA make their decisions about Mackay & now Whelan. The pyramid to beat all pyramids!! [Link] Find out what team is in which division, eg which division is Coppull United in?
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Like the recent case with Top Gear....who here honestly knew Slope was supposed to be a derogatory comment for an Asian person?

I didn't know that either, but the Top Gear presenters did (that's why they used it - to generate more publicity for themselves) and now I do know I won't use it (not that I did anyway, but you get what I mean).

I guess thats my problem with some of this- being branded such and such when one might be oblivious to its meaning.

In Whelans case I believe he has been very naive, but I dont think he intended to offend.

Really he should have just maintained a dignified silence and let the results on the pitch do the talking.

I think Whelan is old-fashioned and ignorant but probably not a racist. Like you however, I think he was extremely foolish to say what he did instead of just saying "Mackay made a mistake, he's apologised and now we move on".

Instead he's given the story more legs than a caterpillar and ensured it's stayed on the back (and front) pages than it would've done if he'd just kept schtum about the whole thing.

I agree. he's added to what Mackay said. He does say he was mis-quoted but why say anything, As you say all he had to say was all what Mackay sent/emailed was wrong, which is what he has now said.

I'm sure the media/press would still have said/written articles about the situation but nothing like what has happened & will continue.

If everything stays the same the next big news story will be when the FA make their decisions about Mackay & now Whelan.

The pyramid to beat all pyramids!!

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Find out what team is in which division, eg which division is Coppull United in?

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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Nov 14 5.18pm
Tan calls Whelan a racist. Isn't that slanderous ?
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Tan calls Whelan a racist. Isn't that slanderous ?

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Pawson Palace Croydon 21 Nov 14 5.18pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 5.08pm Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 5.05pm Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.44pm . Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Nov 2014 4.47pm) That's a shame, I was about to respond to your post! Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though Sorry chap- I realised I was ranting and was looking a bit of a dick. I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did! Not in my eyes you weren't pal. Just having a good old debate which is what these boards are for! No hard feelings ever though - it's not worth that much. We're all Palace after all I look forward to discrimination against the Scousers on Sunday! Sign on, sign on! Pride of South London Upper Holmesdale Block P
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Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 5.08pm

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Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm

Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.44pm

Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Nov 2014 4.47pm)

That's a shame, I was about to respond to your post!

Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though

Sorry chap- I realised I was ranting and was looking a bit of a dick.

I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did!

Not in my eyes you weren't pal. Just having a good old debate which is what these boards are for! No hard feelings ever though - it's not worth that much. We're all Palace after all

I look forward to discrimination against the Scousers on Sunday!

Sign on, sign on!

Pride of South London
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Stuk Top half 21 Nov 14 5.21pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 5.16pm Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 5.09pm Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.57pm Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 4.51pm Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.40pm Quote Ian J at 21 Nov 2014 4.38pm Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 4.21pm Quote Mapletree at 21 Nov 2014 4.10pm Japanese people think "Jap" is racist . Do they ? For what reason ? To my mind "Jap" is just a shortened form of Japanese. Enlighten me, is there some deep-seated historical or other reason why "Jap" is considered racist ? [Link] In the United States, the word 'Jap' was sometimes used as a contraction of 'Japanese' before WWII. It wasn't considered derogatory. That's why willo didn't know it was derogatory. His cultural awareness was halted at the turn of the 20th century To back Willo up here somewhat. Jap is not considered racist, and if it is there is an awful lot of companies breaking the law if you google search for "jap" and then parts or cars etc. I believe Nips was the offensive terms, which is an abbreviation of the word they use for Japan. If you read the link IanJ posted you'll find it is: Q: Is the word Jap considered derogatory? Yes, this phrase is widely considered a racial slur. Much of the English speaking world and the Japanese themselves consider this to be a derogatory term. If you use this word to describe Japanese people or culture — you are likely to offend. That's one person's opinion as far as I can see, but i'm sure there's others that share the opinion. Do you think there would be multiple companies operating as "Jap" something if it was offensive, no matter the context? It's obviously more than one person's opinion, as you say. As for the companies, I don't know, but if I was in their shoes I'd choose another name for my business because in many people's eyes it is considered as derogatory. [Link] That's a company with a market capitalisation of more than $18bn using it. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 21 Nov 14 5.21pm

Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 5.16pm

Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 5.09pm

Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.57pm

Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 4.51pm

Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.40pm

Quote Ian J at 21 Nov 2014 4.38pm

Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 4.21pm

Quote Mapletree at 21 Nov 2014 4.10pm

Japanese people think "Jap" is racist .

Do they ? For what reason ? To my mind "Jap" is just a shortened form of Japanese. Enlighten me, is there some deep-seated historical or other reason why "Jap" is considered racist ?

[Link]

In the United States, the word 'Jap' was sometimes used as a contraction of 'Japanese' before WWII. It wasn't considered derogatory.

That's why willo didn't know it was derogatory. His cultural awareness was halted at the turn of the 20th century

To back Willo up here somewhat. Jap is not considered racist, and if it is there is an awful lot of companies breaking the law if you google search for "jap" and then parts or cars etc.

I believe Nips was the offensive terms, which is an abbreviation of the word they use for Japan.

If you read the link IanJ posted you'll find it is:

Q: Is the word Jap considered derogatory?

Yes, this phrase is widely considered a racial slur.

Much of the English speaking world and the Japanese themselves consider this to be a derogatory term. If you use this word to describe Japanese people or culture — you are likely to offend.

[Link]

That's a company with a market capitalisation of more than $18bn using it.

Optimistic as ever

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Seth On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.23pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 5.18pm Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 5.08pm Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 5.05pm Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.44pm . Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Nov 2014 4.47pm) That's a shame, I was about to respond to your post! Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though Sorry chap- I realised I was ranting and was looking a bit of a dick. I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did! Not in my eyes you weren't pal. Just having a good old debate which is what these boards are for! No hard feelings ever though - it's not worth that much. We're all Palace after all I look forward to discrimination against the Scousers on Sunday! Sign on, sign on! Yeah don't mind a bit of anti-Scouse prejudice (I'm allowed cos my granddad was from Liverpool ) We pay your benefits.... "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.23pm

Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 5.18pm

Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 5.08pm

Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 5.05pm

Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm

Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.44pm

Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Nov 2014 4.47pm)

That's a shame, I was about to respond to your post!

Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though

Sorry chap- I realised I was ranting and was looking a bit of a dick.

I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did!

Not in my eyes you weren't pal. Just having a good old debate which is what these boards are for! No hard feelings ever though - it's not worth that much. We're all Palace after all

I look forward to discrimination against the Scousers on Sunday!

Sign on, sign on!

Yeah don't mind a bit of anti-Scouse prejudice (I'm allowed cos my granddad was from Liverpool )

We pay your benefits....

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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Seth On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.25pm
Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 5.21pm [Link] That's a company with a market capitalisation of more than bn using it. Yeah but we all know monster drinks are the work of satan: [Link] "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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[Link]

That's a company with a market capitalisation of more than bn using it.

Yeah but we all know monster drinks are the work of satan: [Link]

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
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