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 Seth  On a pale blue dot 06 Nov 14 4.56pm |
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All the righties on here who hate the unions so much should get themselves one of these:
"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" |
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Quote Seth at 06 Nov 2014 4.56pm
All the righties on here who hate the unions so much should get themselves one of these:
(Gusset already posts this at least twice a year too)
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 06 Nov 14 5.09pm |
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Quote Stuk at 06 Nov 2014 5.03pm
Quote Seth at 06 Nov 2014 4.56pm
All the righties on here who hate the unions so much should get themselves one of these:
(Gusset already posts this at least twice a year too)
(So what)
"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" |
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Nov 14 5.15pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 31 Oct 2014 9.12pm
Pensions in the public sector form part of pay and conditions, they are not an extra. Anyone who thinks that fireman (or anyone) want to strike is delusional. Striking is last resort. Totally agree. I am now 58 and have worked in the public sector since I was 16. I will retire at 60 but not get my State pension until I am 66! My "gold-plated" Public Sector pension will be approx 18k for 44 years service. Before anyone says "how generous" it is only going to be 18k due to me working most weekends, Xmas Day/Boxing Day, NY Day and Easter, for the last 2 years. People should not believe all they read in the media about Public Sector pensions.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Nov 14 5.28pm |
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Quote Stuk at 06 Nov 2014 1.09pm
Quote Kingvagabond at 06 Nov 2014 9.28am
Quote Stuk at 05 Nov 2014 1.56pm
Quote Kingvagabond at 05 Nov 2014 12.57pm
Quote Stuk at 04 Nov 2014 5.34pm
Quote Kingvagabond at 04 Nov 2014 4.57pm
Bus exploded outside my Dad's office today in Wallington. Police immediately took control of the situation, created a 500 metre cordon and worked to allow Firefighters an easy route in. Firefighters immediately tackled the blaze up close. Paramedics came and sat on standby ready to get involved if this situation called on it. f*** the government, stop trying to rob front line emergency service pensions. Edited by Kingvagabond (04 Nov 2014 5.00pm)
Factsheet, not rumour. Erm read your (incredibly biased) fact sheet again. It is. They are forcing people on the 1992 scheme to change to the 2015 scheme despite a ringfenced agreement that this would not take place. Essentially they are robbing firefighters pensions.
They're not robbing them, as you've said twice, they're making them (slightly more) viable and it only affects future, not past, contributions. Edited by Stuk (05 Nov 2014 1.56pm) And people joined under the auspices of the previous agreement and ergo they are being robbed of the pension that was agreed. Keep up Stuk. Same for the rest of us with the state pension. Nothing is being robbed, we're all just getting it later. It just sounds better to use words like "stealing" or "robbery". Phone the police if you're getting robbed. See what they say.
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| elgrande bedford 06 Nov 14 6.59pm |
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Quote Seth at 06 Nov 2014 4.56pm
All the righties on here who hate the unions so much should get themselves one of these:
But yeah they have done some good over the years.
always a Norwood boy, where ever I live. |
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Pussay Patrol  06 Nov 14 7.01pm |
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Quote Spiderman at 06 Nov 2014 5.15pm
Quote nickgusset at 31 Oct 2014 9.12pm
Pensions in the public sector form part of pay and conditions, they are not an extra. Anyone who thinks that fireman (or anyone) want to strike is delusional. Striking is last resort. Totally agree. I am now 58 and have worked in the public sector since I was 16. I will retire at 60 but not get my State pension until I am 66! My "gold-plated" Public Sector pension will be approx 18k for 44 years service. Before anyone says "how generous" it is only going to be 18k due to me working most weekends, Xmas Day/Boxing Day, NY Day and Easter, for the last 2 years. People should not believe all they read in the media about Public Sector pensions. Poor you, you've been really hard done by
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Nov 14 10.15pm |
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Quote Pussay Patrol at 06 Nov 2014 7.01pm
Quote Spiderman at 06 Nov 2014 5.15pm
Quote nickgusset at 31 Oct 2014 9.12pm
Pensions in the public sector form part of pay and conditions, they are not an extra. Anyone who thinks that fireman (or anyone) want to strike is delusional. Striking is last resort. Totally agree. I am now 58 and have worked in the public sector since I was 16. I will retire at 60 but not get my State pension until I am 66! My "gold-plated" Public Sector pension will be approx 18k for 44 years service. Before anyone says "how generous" it is only going to be 18k due to me working most weekends, Xmas Day/Boxing Day, NY Day and Easter, for the last 2 years. People should not believe all they read in the media about Public Sector pensions. Poor you, you've been really hard done by Unlike mp's [Link] Given themselves a 25% rise in their pensions.
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| Stuk Top half 07 Nov 14 12.14am |
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Quote nickgusset at 06 Nov 2014 5.28pm
Quote Stuk at 06 Nov 2014 1.09pm
Quote Kingvagabond at 06 Nov 2014 9.28am
Quote Stuk at 05 Nov 2014 1.56pm
Quote Kingvagabond at 05 Nov 2014 12.57pm
Quote Stuk at 04 Nov 2014 5.34pm
Quote Kingvagabond at 04 Nov 2014 4.57pm
Bus exploded outside my Dad's office today in Wallington. Police immediately took control of the situation, created a 500 metre cordon and worked to allow Firefighters an easy route in. Firefighters immediately tackled the blaze up close. Paramedics came and sat on standby ready to get involved if this situation called on it. f*** the government, stop trying to rob front line emergency service pensions. Edited by Kingvagabond (04 Nov 2014 5.00pm)
Factsheet, not rumour. Erm read your (incredibly biased) fact sheet again. It is. They are forcing people on the 1992 scheme to change to the 2015 scheme despite a ringfenced agreement that this would not take place. Essentially they are robbing firefighters pensions.
They're not robbing them, as you've said twice, they're making them (slightly more) viable and it only affects future, not past, contributions. Edited by Stuk (05 Nov 2014 1.56pm) And people joined under the auspices of the previous agreement and ergo they are being robbed of the pension that was agreed. Keep up Stuk. Same for the rest of us with the state pension. Nothing is being robbed, we're all just getting it later. It just sounds better to use words like "stealing" or "robbery". Phone the police if you're getting robbed. See what they say.
Edited by Stuk (07 Nov 2014 12.15am)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Nov 14 12.30am |
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Quote kennybrowns leftfoot at 01 Nov 2014 2.07am
I have read this thread with interest. Fireman are doing what they are entitled to and that is strike. Personally it is poinleS's. They have to step into line just like the old bill and the ambulance service have had to. What u need to remember is that alot of them like me were promised something when they signeed up and now the goalposts have been moved. Like me in the old bill. I joined in 2000 and was told I would do 30 years and get a decent pension at the end. Now after 15 years I've been told by the government 'actually your going to do another 9 years on top until your 60 and get less than you thought Yes still an ok pension but it wasn't what I signed up for. That's a bitter pill to swallow when you've spent half of your supposed service making plans and thinking you were getting a certain deal. There's no love lost between the old bill and the fire service but I don't blame them for striking which they are entitled to. If the old bill were allowed to strike I would strike tomor row against this government. Theresa May is to the emergency services what Maggie Thatcher is to the miners..... Awful woman. What this one Stuk? Looks like he supports the fireman. He even goes as far as to say he would strike.
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| Stuk Top half 07 Nov 14 4.55pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 07 Nov 2014 12.30am
Quote kennybrowns leftfoot at 01 Nov 2014 2.07am
I have read this thread with interest. Fireman are doing what they are entitled to and that is strike. Personally it is poinleS's. They have to step into line just like the old bill and the ambulance service have had to. What u need to remember is that alot of them like me were promised something when they signeed up and now the goalposts have been moved. Like me in the old bill. I joined in 2000 and was told I would do 30 years and get a decent pension at the end. Now after 15 years I've been told by the government 'actually your going to do another 9 years on top until your 60 and get less than you thought Yes still an ok pension but it wasn't what I signed up for. That's a bitter pill to swallow when you've spent half of your supposed service making plans and thinking you were getting a certain deal. There's no love lost between the old bill and the fire service but I don't blame them for striking which they are entitled to. If the old bill were allowed to strike I would strike tomor row against this government. Theresa May is to the emergency services what Maggie Thatcher is to the miners..... Awful woman. What this one Stuk? Looks like he supports the fireman. He even goes as far as to say he would strike. He said the goalposts had been moved, which I agree with. Not that he'd been robbed, which is hyperbole.
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| Pussay Patrol 07 Nov 14 5.28pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 06 Nov 2014 10.15pm
Quote Pussay Patrol at 06 Nov 2014 7.01pm
Quote Spiderman at 06 Nov 2014 5.15pm
Quote nickgusset at 31 Oct 2014 9.12pm
Pensions in the public sector form part of pay and conditions, they are not an extra. Anyone who thinks that fireman (or anyone) want to strike is delusional. Striking is last resort. Totally agree. I am now 58 and have worked in the public sector since I was 16. I will retire at 60 but not get my State pension until I am 66! My "gold-plated" Public Sector pension will be approx 18k for 44 years service. Before anyone says "how generous" it is only going to be 18k due to me working most weekends, Xmas Day/Boxing Day, NY Day and Easter, for the last 2 years. People should not believe all they read in the media about Public Sector pensions. Poor you, you've been really hard done by Unlike mp's [Link] Given themselves a 25% rise in their pensions. How old is that article? 5/6 years?
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