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FinchleyEagle 09 Mar 14 7.57pm
Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 7.40pm Quote EastEndPalace at 09 Mar 2014 6.41pm Quote st6 at 09 Mar 2014 4.21pm Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 12.25pm Quote Plane at 09 Mar 2014 10.20am Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 2.42am Quote Palace15eagle at 09 Mar 2014 12.17am Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks... If we go down playing football, I will be fine with that. If we survive playing this tripe for the next 5 or so years, well I definitely ain't fine with that. Just my personal preference, but the division is not important, it's the way we play. I beg to differ, Premiership = £60m p/a. Championship = £2m p/a. I know which one I'd prefer. I just want to see my team play football. The dream of ever being successful is really gone nowadays and with financial fair play coming in it will ensure the big stay big and the lesser teams can never overspend to compete with the aid of a sugar daddy. If we stay in the division playing like Southampton then count me in, playing like we are right now, sorry it's just horrible to watch and at times downright embarrassing. ... Sorry to gatecrash your forum but this is all so familiar. The threads on The Oatcake used to read just like this. I totally agree with Dangermouse, I'd rather watch entertaining football in a lower division than Pulisball. £60m or £2m what does that matter to the fan? Is it your money? We go to football to be entertained. The game against Southampton sounds like most of the games we had to suffer last season. This is why Stoke fans were so glad to be rid of him. He is a poisoned chalice - yes he's good at avoiding relegation, but at what price to your club's soul? And it already sounds like he's started patronising you by telling you to remember where you came from and telling you you're not as big a team as others around you. This is what becomes so infuriating. Even after spending £90m at Stoke, the fourth highest amount in five years in the prem, he was still telling us that we were minnows and weren't good enough to take the game to teams like Hull and Reading!!! I totally sympathise with you. You need to keep him until the end of the season, hope he keeps you up and then get rid quick, before you're all gnawing your own arms off in boredom next season, because he only gets worse as time goes on. The thing is mate the football has not been that bad we lost at home to Man UTD drew away at Swansea and lost to a better Southampton side. Our anti Pulis lot seemed to make there mind up about him before he was manager and disappear when we win which has been a lot. They reappear after a bad game like they expect us to win each game. The football is not bad at all. Well as one of the anti Pulis lot I think I've made it perfectly clear that it isn't the results, it's the manner in which we are playing that I am against. Since the window I felt with our additions we could push on, but instead we are treating every team like Bayern Munich and basically being used as a passing drill by the opposition. I don't expect to win each game and have never said so, but in a list of Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Villa and Southampton at home which games would you of seriously targeted as winnable. We needed two wins from our last five home games now it's two from four. No we don't, we need to get more points than 3 other teams. How and where we get them is not decided ! We had a bad day, it happens. All this hyperbole is ridiculous and buying into a bitter Stoke fan's rants is embarrassing. What do any of us know about competing in the prem as a manager ? Very little. Everyone can say, we must be more attack-minded, we must push on etc, but we have tried that before and got stuffed (Liverpool away springs to mind) as it leaves gaps. Yes, pushing on may get us more opportunities but it will certainly leave us more exposed. Are we as a team able to cope with that, do we have the know-how, the players to do that ? Pulis clearly thinks not. His approach is the best with what we have available, but even he cant legislate for players playing badly. Saints are a good side, and for all their possession they had very few chances. If you just want good football then maybe Arsenal are the team for you. Success and better football takes time. Will it happen at all with Pulis ? Maybe, maybe not. But considering where we were when he took over he has worked miracles and a bad result doesn't change that. Maybe you want attacking football, lots of goals, getting stuffed every week, relegated and everyone saying what a shame it was that we went down. I don't. I was never a fan of the prem before this season but the difference between the whole experience of a season in the prem compared to out of it is enormous and all I want this season is to stay up, and I know Pulis is the best man for this job. Without a shadow of a doubt. You'll be forever in my family's memories and it was an honor and privilege to play and lead in the red and blue Yours sincerely Mile Jedinak
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Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks...

If we go down playing football, I will be fine with that. If we survive playing this tripe for the next 5 or so years, well I definitely ain't fine with that.
Just my personal preference, but the division is not important, it's the way we play.

I beg to differ, Premiership = £60m p/a. Championship = £2m p/a. I know which one I'd prefer.

I just want to see my team play football. The dream of ever being successful is really gone nowadays and with financial fair play coming in it will ensure the big stay big and the lesser teams can never overspend to compete with the aid of a sugar daddy. If we stay in the division playing like Southampton then count me in, playing like we are right now, sorry it's just horrible to watch and at times downright embarrassing.
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Sorry to gatecrash your forum but this is all so familiar. The threads on The Oatcake used to read just like this. I totally agree with Dangermouse, I'd rather watch entertaining football in a lower division than Pulisball. £60m or £2m what does that matter to the fan? Is it your money? We go to football to be entertained.
The game against Southampton sounds like most of the games we had to suffer last season. This is why Stoke fans were so glad to be rid of him. He is a poisoned chalice - yes he's good at avoiding relegation, but at what price to your club's soul?
And it already sounds like he's started patronising you by telling you to remember where you came from and telling you you're not as big a team as others around you. This is what becomes so infuriating. Even after spending £90m at Stoke, the fourth highest amount in five years in the prem, he was still telling us that we were minnows and weren't good enough to take the game to teams like Hull and Reading!!! I totally sympathise with you. You need to keep him until the end of the season, hope he keeps you up and then get rid quick, before you're all gnawing your own arms off in boredom next season, because he only gets worse as time goes on.

The thing is mate the football has not been that bad we lost at home to Man UTD drew away at Swansea and lost to a better Southampton side. Our anti Pulis lot seemed to make there mind up about him before he was manager and disappear when we win which has been a lot. They reappear after a bad game like they expect us to win each game. The football is not bad at all.

Well as one of the anti Pulis lot I think I've made it perfectly clear that it isn't the results, it's the manner in which we are playing that I am against. Since the window I felt with our additions we could push on, but instead we are treating every team like Bayern Munich and basically being used as a passing drill by the opposition.
I don't expect to win each game and have never said so, but in a list of Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Villa and Southampton at home which games would you of seriously targeted as winnable. We needed two wins from our last five home games now it's two from four.

No we don't, we need to get more points than 3 other teams. How and where we get them is not decided !

We had a bad day, it happens. All this hyperbole is ridiculous and buying into a bitter Stoke fan's rants is embarrassing. What do any of us know about competing in the prem as a manager ? Very little.

Everyone can say, we must be more attack-minded, we must push on etc, but we have tried that before and got stuffed (Liverpool away springs to mind) as it leaves gaps. Yes, pushing on may get us more opportunities but it will certainly leave us more exposed. Are we as a team able to cope with that, do we have the know-how, the players to do that ? Pulis clearly thinks not.

His approach is the best with what we have available, but even he cant legislate for players playing badly. Saints are a good side, and for all their possession they had very few chances.

If you just want good football then maybe Arsenal are the team for you. Success and better football takes time. Will it happen at all with Pulis ? Maybe, maybe not. But considering where we were when he took over he has worked miracles and a bad result doesn't change that. Maybe you want attacking football, lots of goals, getting stuffed every week, relegated and everyone saying what a shame it was that we went down. I don't. I was never a fan of the prem before this season but the difference between the whole experience of a season in the prem compared to out of it is enormous and all I want this season is to stay up, and I know Pulis is the best man for this job.

Without a shadow of a doubt.

You'll be forever in my family's memories and it was an honor and privilege to play and lead in the red and blue
Yours sincerely
Mile Jedinak

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Dangermouse Hastings 09 Mar 14 8.14pm
Quote FinchleyEagle at 09 Mar 2014 7.57pm Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 7.40pm Quote EastEndPalace at 09 Mar 2014 6.41pm Quote st6 at 09 Mar 2014 4.21pm Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 12.25pm Quote Plane at 09 Mar 2014 10.20am Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 2.42am Quote Palace15eagle at 09 Mar 2014 12.17am Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks... If we go down playing football, I will be fine with that. If we survive playing this tripe for the next 5 or so years, well I definitely ain't fine with that. Just my personal preference, but the division is not important, it's the way we play. I beg to differ, Premiership = £60m p/a. Championship = £2m p/a. I know which one I'd prefer. I just want to see my team play football. The dream of ever being successful is really gone nowadays and with financial fair play coming in it will ensure the big stay big and the lesser teams can never overspend to compete with the aid of a sugar daddy. If we stay in the division playing like Southampton then count me in, playing like we are right now, sorry it's just horrible to watch and at times downright embarrassing. ... Sorry to gatecrash your forum but this is all so familiar. The threads on The Oatcake used to read just like this. I totally agree with Dangermouse, I'd rather watch entertaining football in a lower division than Pulisball. £60m or £2m what does that matter to the fan? Is it your money? We go to football to be entertained. The game against Southampton sounds like most of the games we had to suffer last season. This is why Stoke fans were so glad to be rid of him. He is a poisoned chalice - yes he's good at avoiding relegation, but at what price to your club's soul? And it already sounds like he's started patronising you by telling you to remember where you came from and telling you you're not as big a team as others around you. This is what becomes so infuriating. Even after spending £90m at Stoke, the fourth highest amount in five years in the prem, he was still telling us that we were minnows and weren't good enough to take the game to teams like Hull and Reading!!! I totally sympathise with you. You need to keep him until the end of the season, hope he keeps you up and then get rid quick, before you're all gnawing your own arms off in boredom next season, because he only gets worse as time goes on. The thing is mate the football has not been that bad we lost at home to Man UTD drew away at Swansea and lost to a better Southampton side. Our anti Pulis lot seemed to make there mind up about him before he was manager and disappear when we win which has been a lot. They reappear after a bad game like they expect us to win each game. The football is not bad at all. Well as one of the anti Pulis lot I think I've made it perfectly clear that it isn't the results, it's the manner in which we are playing that I am against. Since the window I felt with our additions we could push on, but instead we are treating every team like Bayern Munich and basically being used as a passing drill by the opposition. I don't expect to win each game and have never said so, but in a list of Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Villa and Southampton at home which games would you of seriously targeted as winnable. We needed two wins from our last five home games now it's two from four. No we don't, we need to get more points than 3 other teams. How and where we get them is not decided ! We had a bad day, it happens. All this hyperbole is ridiculous and buying into a bitter Stoke fan's rants is embarrassing. What do any of us know about competing in the prem as a manager ? Very little. Everyone can say, we must be more attack-minded, we must push on etc, but we have tried that before and got stuffed (Liverpool away springs to mind) as it leaves gaps. Yes, pushing on may get us more opportunities but it will certainly leave us more exposed. Are we as a team able to cope with that, do we have the know-how, the players to do that ? Pulis clearly thinks not. His approach is the best with what we have available, but even he cant legislate for players playing badly. Saints are a good side, and for all their possession they had very few chances. If you just want good football then maybe Arsenal are the team for you. Success and better football takes time. Will it happen at all with Pulis ? Maybe, maybe not. But considering where we were when he took over he has worked miracles and a bad result doesn't change that. Maybe you want attacking football, lots of goals, getting stuffed every week, relegated and everyone saying what a shame it was that we went down. I don't. I was never a fan of the prem before this season but the difference between the whole experience of a season in the prem compared to out of it is enormous and all I want this season is to stay up, and I know Pulis is the best man for this job. Without a shadow of a doubt. Sorry, was forgetting about our superb away record which will see us safe. Getting more points than three other teams means trying to win points in every game, not just giving some up as a lost cause. No one has blown us away bar Fulham, probably. What happened at Liverpool has happened to a lot of teams there this season, Everton, Arsenal etc. Playing a more attack minded game is not all about going gung ho and throwing it away, but if we don't get more bodies forward we will go down. Stay up or go down, doesn't really bother me, I just want to be entertained. Ok you don't feel that way, but surely a good game includes two teams trying to attack each other. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Quote Palace15eagle at 09 Mar 2014 12.17am

Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks...

I beg to differ, Premiership = £60m p/a. Championship = £2m p/a. I know which one I'd prefer.

No we don't, we need to get more points than 3 other teams. How and where we get them is not decided !

His approach is the best with what we have available, but even he cant legislate for players playing badly. Saints are a good side, and for all their possession they had very few chances.

Without a shadow of a doubt.

Sorry, was forgetting about our superb away record which will see us safe. Getting more points than three other teams means trying to win points in every game, not just giving some up as a lost cause. No one has blown us away bar Fulham, probably. What happened at Liverpool has happened to a lot of teams there this season, Everton, Arsenal etc. Playing a more attack minded game is not all about going gung ho and throwing it away, but if we don't get more bodies forward we will go down.
Stay up or go down, doesn't really bother me, I just want to be entertained. Ok you don't feel that way, but surely a good game includes two teams trying to attack each other.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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slubglurge welling 09 Mar 14 8.20pm
Pulis has clearly has a points target for each fixture. Against Saints we were playing for a draw from the start and would have achieved it bar a balls up I think we will target three winnable games, Villa Cardiff and Fulham and two draws from Blunderland Hammers and Toon. 38 points and just hope its enough.
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Pulis has clearly has a points target for each fixture. Against Saints we were playing for a draw from the start and would have achieved it bar a balls up I think we will target three winnable games, Villa Cardiff and Fulham and two draws from Blunderland Hammers and Toon. 38 points and just hope its enough.

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The Dolphin 09 Mar 14 8.29pm
I was unable to go yesterday and so must rely on mates reports, MOD and the team selection to comment. We set up lacking ambition and for a draw as I saw it - in my opinion we should be trying to beat teams like Southampton at home - we paid them too much respect. I am also not a Puncheon fan and never will be - he has no fight in him and not too much skill either - I wouldn't have given him a 4.5 month contract let alone 4.5 years! He has been a waste of space since we bought him properly. Why buy Ince and leave him on the bench - he could have worked yesterday. Why play KG at all? Parr is obviously injured hence Moxey playing but he is also not worth his contract and the bits I saw yesterday only confirmed that - he couldn't mark his own pants! Southampton deserved their points because we can't score and we can't score because we don't create enough chances and we leave our CF by himself running his legs off when others should be doing it for him. A dismal day at the Palace office yesterday and one can only hope that TP has leant a valuable lesson because that crap will see us relegated for certain. Rant over.
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I was unable to go yesterday and so must rely on mates reports, MOD and the team selection to comment.
We set up lacking ambition and for a draw as I saw it - in my opinion we should be trying to beat teams like Southampton at home - we paid them too much respect.
I am also not a Puncheon fan and never will be - he has no fight in him and not too much skill either - I wouldn't have given him a 4.5 month contract let alone 4.5 years!
He has been a waste of space since we bought him properly.
Why buy Ince and leave him on the bench - he could have worked yesterday.
Why play KG at all?
Parr is obviously injured hence Moxey playing but he is also not worth his contract and the bits I saw yesterday only confirmed that - he couldn't mark his own pants!
Southampton deserved their points because we can't score and we can't score because we don't create enough chances and we leave our CF by himself running his legs off when others should be doing it for him.
A dismal day at the Palace office yesterday and one can only hope that TP has leant a valuable lesson because that crap will see us relegated for certain.
Rant over.

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 09 Mar 14 8.32pm
Quote spartakev2 at 09 Mar 2014 10.05am For me this was the most frustrating game I've watched all season. I cannot understand the team selection considering we were a home. If Chamach had not been injured, he obviously would have played, so why not replace him with an attacking/creative midfielder. We were crying out for someone like Bannon or Ince playing behind Murray. Personaly I think Southampton were there for the taking today, and I'm really disappointed we didn't get something from the game....................and don't even get me started on Puncheon Exactly my thoughts, even after sleeping on it after getting a bit 'ranty' yesterday...that's it in a nutshell yesterday As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Quote spartakev2 at 09 Mar 2014 10.05am

For me this was the most frustrating game I've watched all season. I cannot understand the team selection considering we were a home. If Chamach had not been injured, he obviously would have played, so why not replace him with an attacking/creative midfielder. We were crying out for someone like Bannon or Ince playing behind Murray. Personaly I think Southampton were there for the taking today, and I'm really disappointed we didn't get something from the game....................and don't even get me started on Puncheon

Exactly my thoughts, even after sleeping on it after getting a bit 'ranty' yesterday...that's it in a nutshell yesterday

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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 09 Mar 14 11.27pm
Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 8.14pm Quote FinchleyEagle at 09 Mar 2014 7.57pm Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 7.40pm Quote EastEndPalace at 09 Mar 2014 6.41pm Quote st6 at 09 Mar 2014 4.21pm Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 12.25pm Quote Plane at 09 Mar 2014 10.20am Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 2.42am Quote Palace15eagle at 09 Mar 2014 12.17am Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks... If we go down playing football, I will be fine with that. If we survive playing this tripe for the next 5 or so years, well I definitely ain't fine with that. Just my personal preference, but the division is not important, it's the way we play. I beg to differ, Premiership = £60m p/a. Championship = £2m p/a. I know which one I'd prefer. I just want to see my team play football. The dream of ever being successful is really gone nowadays and with financial fair play coming in it will ensure the big stay big and the lesser teams can never overspend to compete with the aid of a sugar daddy. If we stay in the division playing like Southampton then count me in, playing like we are right now, sorry it's just horrible to watch and at times downright embarrassing. ... Sorry to gatecrash your forum but this is all so familiar. The threads on The Oatcake used to read just like this. I totally agree with Dangermouse, I'd rather watch entertaining football in a lower division than Pulisball. £60m or £2m what does that matter to the fan? Is it your money? We go to football to be entertained. The game against Southampton sounds like most of the games we had to suffer last season. This is why Stoke fans were so glad to be rid of him. He is a poisoned chalice - yes he's good at avoiding relegation, but at what price to your club's soul? And it already sounds like he's started patronising you by telling you to remember where you came from and telling you you're not as big a team as others around you. This is what becomes so infuriating. Even after spending £90m at Stoke, the fourth highest amount in five years in the prem, he was still telling us that we were minnows and weren't good enough to take the game to teams like Hull and Reading!!! I totally sympathise with you. You need to keep him until the end of the season, hope he keeps you up and then get rid quick, before you're all gnawing your own arms off in boredom next season, because he only gets worse as time goes on. The thing is mate the football has not been that bad we lost at home to Man UTD drew away at Swansea and lost to a better Southampton side. Our anti Pulis lot seemed to make there mind up about him before he was manager and disappear when we win which has been a lot. They reappear after a bad game like they expect us to win each game. The football is not bad at all. Well as one of the anti Pulis lot I think I've made it perfectly clear that it isn't the results, it's the manner in which we are playing that I am against. Since the window I felt with our additions we could push on, but instead we are treating every team like Bayern Munich and basically being used as a passing drill by the opposition. I don't expect to win each game and have never said so, but in a list of Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Villa and Southampton at home which games would you of seriously targeted as winnable. We needed two wins from our last five home games now it's two from four. No we don't, we need to get more points than 3 other teams. How and where we get them is not decided ! We had a bad day, it happens. All this hyperbole is ridiculous and buying into a bitter Stoke fan's rants is embarrassing. What do any of us know about competing in the prem as a manager ? Very little. Everyone can say, we must be more attack-minded, we must push on etc, but we have tried that before and got stuffed (Liverpool away springs to mind) as it leaves gaps. Yes, pushing on may get us more opportunities but it will certainly leave us more exposed. Are we as a team able to cope with that, do we have the know-how, the players to do that ? Pulis clearly thinks not. His approach is the best with what we have available, but even he cant legislate for players playing badly. Saints are a good side, and for all their possession they had very few chances. If you just want good football then maybe Arsenal are the team for you. Success and better football takes time. Will it happen at all with Pulis ? Maybe, maybe not. But considering where we were when he took over he has worked miracles and a bad result doesn't change that. Maybe you want attacking football, lots of goals, getting stuffed every week, relegated and everyone saying what a shame it was that we went down. I don't. I was never a fan of the prem before this season but the difference between the whole experience of a season in the prem compared to out of it is enormous and all I want this season is to stay up, and I know Pulis is the best man for this job. Without a shadow of a doubt. Sorry, was forgetting about our superb away record which will see us safe. Getting more points than three other teams means trying to win points in every game, not just giving some up as a lost cause. No one has blown us away bar Fulham, probably. What happened at Liverpool has happened to a lot of teams there this season, Everton, Arsenal etc. Playing a more attack minded game is not all about going gung ho and throwing it away, but if we don't get more bodies forward we will go down. Stay up or go down, doesn't really bother me, I just want to be entertained. Ok you don't feel that way, but surely a good game includes two teams trying to attack each other. The winnable away games we have played we have either one or drawn under Pulis bar Norwich which was his first game. Bare in mind our away games have been against the top sides we have away games against teams we can beat now so lets judge our away record on that.
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Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks...

I beg to differ, Premiership = £60m p/a. Championship = £2m p/a. I know which one I'd prefer.

No we don't, we need to get more points than 3 other teams. How and where we get them is not decided !

His approach is the best with what we have available, but even he cant legislate for players playing badly. Saints are a good side, and for all their possession they had very few chances.

Without a shadow of a doubt.

Sorry, was forgetting about our superb away record which will see us safe. Getting more points than three other teams means trying to win points in every game, not just giving some up as a lost cause. No one has blown us away bar Fulham, probably. What happened at Liverpool has happened to a lot of teams there this season, Everton, Arsenal etc. Playing a more attack minded game is not all about going gung ho and throwing it away, but if we don't get more bodies forward we will go down.
Stay up or go down, doesn't really bother me, I just want to be entertained. Ok you don't feel that way, but surely a good game includes two teams trying to attack each other.

The winnable away games we have played we have either one or drawn under Pulis bar Norwich which was his first game. Bare in mind our away games have been against the top sides we have away games against teams we can beat now so lets judge our away record on that.

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Mangopablo south LONDON 10 Mar 14 7.46am
Quote bubble wrap at 08 Mar 2014 7.35pm Quote blind eagle at 08 Mar 2014 7.25pm I am sorry Mr.Pulis but I do not agree with your belief " we did alright and competed ". Probably one of the worse home games this season with the exception of the Fulham match. We had no mid-field and with the exception of Murray and to some extent Bolasie nobody seemed to put in a complete shift up front. You can no longer play KG if you want us to believe we can stay up so lets go back to the drawing boards and rebuild our mid-field before we go north. Are you blind or something? In all seriousness it was only a silly mistake that separated the sides, remember saints have a great defencive record This is true, but one shot on target at home in a game we really needed to try to win is not enough. "The course of true love never did run smooth"
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I am sorry Mr.Pulis but I do not agree with your belief " we did alright and competed ". Probably one of the worse home games this season with the exception of the Fulham match. We had no mid-field and with the exception of Murray and to some extent Bolasie nobody seemed to put in a complete shift up front. You can no longer play KG if you want us to believe we can stay up so lets go back to the drawing boards and rebuild our mid-field before we go north.

Are you blind or something?
In all seriousness it was only a silly mistake that separated the sides, remember saints have a great defencive record

This is true, but one shot on target at home in a game we really needed to try to win is not enough.

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Mstrobez 10 Mar 14 8.26am
Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 2.42am Quote Palace15eagle at 09 Mar 2014 12.17am Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks... If we go down playing football, I will be fine with that. If we survive playing this tripe for the next 5 or so years, well I definitely ain't fine with that. Just my personal preference, but the division is not important, it's the way we play. A few years ago we was all outside sainsburys singing for our club to remain a club and now we've got fans coming out with this utter s*e. How could anyone prefer to go down "playing good football" what the f*?! Take a look around, it's about being effective in the world of football and GETTING RESULTS. Chelsea are top of the league but don't play football close to the standards of City but Mourinho knows to win the premier league you need a solid back 4 and the ability to grind out results! Tony Pulis is a legend whether we stay up or not to get us in the position he has and if people wanna "go down but play 'nicer' football" I don't know what planet they're living on. Come on guys, we waited almost 10 years for the opportunity to play in the premier league again and the support just seems so negative recently! The atmosphere was very poor on Saturday also, we need to stop expecting so much and get behind the team no matter what, win or lose, good or bad! I don't know if anyone also recalls we were favourites to go down with the lowest points ever and look at us now! We shouldn't be bitching, we should be proud and trust Pulis, look at all the other teams who got new managers (Fulham, Cardiff, West Brom etc.) I bet they would've done anything to get someone like Pulis in! Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.32am) Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.37am) We're the Arthur over ere!
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Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 2.42am

Quote Palace15eagle at 09 Mar 2014 12.17am

Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks...

If we go down playing football, I will be fine with that. If we survive playing this tripe for the next 5 or so years, well I definitely ain't fine with that.
Just my personal preference, but the division is not important, it's the way we play.

A few years ago we was all outside sainsburys singing for our club to remain a club and now we've got fans coming out with this utter s***e. How could anyone prefer to go down "playing good football" what the f***?! Take a look around, it's about being effective in the world of football and GETTING RESULTS. Chelsea are top of the league but don't play football close to the standards of City but Mourinho knows to win the premier league you need a solid back 4 and the ability to grind out results! Tony Pulis is a legend whether we stay up or not to get us in the position he has and if people wanna "go down but play 'nicer' football" I don't know what planet they're living on.

Come on guys, we waited almost 10 years for the opportunity to play in the premier league again and the support just seems so negative recently! The atmosphere was very poor on Saturday also, we need to stop expecting so much and get behind the team no matter what, win or lose, good or bad! I don't know if anyone also recalls we were favourites to go down with the lowest points ever and look at us now! We shouldn't be bitching, we should be proud and trust Pulis, look at all the other teams who got new managers (Fulham, Cardiff, West Brom etc.) I bet they would've done anything to get someone like Pulis in!

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 10 Mar 14 8.48am
Quote Mstrobez at 10 Mar 2014 8.26am Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 2.42am Quote Palace15eagle at 09 Mar 2014 12.17am Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks... If we go down playing football, I will be fine with that. If we survive playing this tripe for the next 5 or so years, well I definitely ain't fine with that. Just my personal preference, but the division is not important, it's the way we play. A few years ago we was all outside sainsburys singing for our club to remain a club and now we've got fans coming out with this utter s*e. How could anyone prefer to go down "playing good football" what the f?! Take a look around, it's about being effective in the world of football and GETTING RESULTS. Chelsea are top of the league but don't play football close to the standards of City but Mourinho knows to win the premier league you need a solid back 4 and the ability to grind out results! Tony Pulis is a legend whether we stay up or not to get us in the position he has and if people wanna "go down but play 'nicer' football" I don't know what planet they're living on. Come on guys, we waited almost 10 years for the opportunity to play in the premier league again and the support just seems so negative recently! The atmosphere was very poor on Saturday also, we need to stop expecting so much and get behind the team no matter what, win or lose, good or bad! I don't know if anyone also recalls we were favourites to go down with the lowest points ever and look at us now! We shouldn't be bitching, we should be proud and trust Pulis, look at all the other teams who got new managers (Fulham, Cardiff, West Brom etc.) I bet they would've done anything to get someone like Pulis in! Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.32am) Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.37am) I dont think its a case of going down 'playing good football' - more of a case of going down and not taking the game to those around us more..Swansea (1st half) and Southampton are decent PL sides, but Real Madrid they arent. Having a game plan which seemingly is to sit on our own 18 yard box, let the opposition have the ball, maybe get a foot in and then see what happens, especially at home, is just a wasted opportunity. Going down by losing by the odd goal in every game is still going down (although I dont care what Div we are in - I cant say I enjoy this PL mallarkey one bit) As was shown at Swansea - when we look for more 'go forward' we can cause teams problems - time to drop the two defensive midfield shields and put someone who might be able to create something - and play 5 yards higher up the pitch...as we did at Swansea 2nd half This cedeing the ball to the opposition is crazy. We all know we have limitations and that Holloway for the most part bought a load of old sht and I am not advocating some gung ho, Charge of the Light Brigade forward every time we get the ball but we have to tip the balance more to going forward. We have to create something for Murray As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 10 Mar 14 8.48am

Quote Mstrobez at 10 Mar 2014 8.26am

Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 2.42am

Quote Palace15eagle at 09 Mar 2014 12.17am

Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks...

If we go down playing football, I will be fine with that. If we survive playing this tripe for the next 5 or so years, well I definitely ain't fine with that.
Just my personal preference, but the division is not important, it's the way we play.

A few years ago we was all outside sainsburys singing for our club to remain a club and now we've got fans coming out with this utter s***e. How could anyone prefer to go down "playing good football" what the f***?! Take a look around, it's about being effective in the world of football and GETTING RESULTS. Chelsea are top of the league but don't play football close to the standards of City but Mourinho knows to win the premier league you need a solid back 4 and the ability to grind out results! Tony Pulis is a legend whether we stay up or not to get us in the position he has and if people wanna "go down but play 'nicer' football" I don't know what planet they're living on.

Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.32am)

Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.37am)

I dont think its a case of going down 'playing good football' - more of a case of going down and not taking the game to those around us more..Swansea (1st half) and Southampton are decent PL sides, but Real Madrid they arent.

Having a game plan which seemingly is to sit on our own 18 yard box, let the opposition have the ball, maybe get a foot in and then see what happens, especially at home, is just a wasted opportunity.

Going down by losing by the odd goal in every game is still going down (although I dont care what Div we are in - I cant say I enjoy this PL mallarkey one bit)

As was shown at Swansea - when we look for more 'go forward' we can cause teams problems - time to drop the two defensive midfield shields and put someone who might be able to create something - and play 5 yards higher up the pitch...as we did at Swansea 2nd half

This cedeing the ball to the opposition is crazy. We all know we have limitations and that Holloway for the most part bought a load of old sh*t and I am not advocating some gung ho, Charge of the Light Brigade forward every time we get the ball but we have to tip the balance more to going forward. We have to create something for Murray

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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Mstrobez 10 Mar 14 9.36am
Quote The Sash at 10 Mar 2014 8.48am Quote Mstrobez at 10 Mar 2014 8.26am Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 2.42am Quote Palace15eagle at 09 Mar 2014 12.17am Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks... If we go down playing football, I will be fine with that. If we survive playing this tripe for the next 5 or so years, well I definitely ain't fine with that. Just my personal preference, but the division is not important, it's the way we play. A few years ago we was all outside sainsburys singing for our club to remain a club and now we've got fans coming out with this utter s*e. How could anyone prefer to go down "playing good football" what the f?! Take a look around, it's about being effective in the world of football and GETTING RESULTS. Chelsea are top of the league but don't play football close to the standards of City but Mourinho knows to win the premier league you need a solid back 4 and the ability to grind out results! Tony Pulis is a legend whether we stay up or not to get us in the position he has and if people wanna "go down but play 'nicer' football" I don't know what planet they're living on. Come on guys, we waited almost 10 years for the opportunity to play in the premier league again and the support just seems so negative recently! The atmosphere was very poor on Saturday also, we need to stop expecting so much and get behind the team no matter what, win or lose, good or bad! I don't know if anyone also recalls we were favourites to go down with the lowest points ever and look at us now! We shouldn't be bitching, we should be proud and trust Pulis, look at all the other teams who got new managers (Fulham, Cardiff, West Brom etc.) I bet they would've done anything to get someone like Pulis in! Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.32am) Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.37am) I dont think its a case of going down 'playing good football' - more of a case of going down and not taking the game to those around us more..Swansea (1st half) and Southampton are decent PL sides, but Real Madrid they arent. Having a game plan which seemingly is to sit on our own 18 yard box, let the opposition have the ball, maybe get a foot in and then see what happens, especially at home, is just a wasted opportunity. Going down by losing by the odd goal in every game is still going down (although I dont care what Div we are in - I cant say I enjoy this PL mallarkey one bit) As was shown at Swansea - when we look for more 'go forward' we can cause teams problems - time to drop the two defensive midfield shields and put someone who might be able to create something - and play 5 yards higher up the pitch...as we did at Swansea 2nd half This cedeing the ball to the opposition is crazy. We all know we have limitations and that Holloway for the most part bought a load of old sht and I am not advocating some gung ho, Charge of the Light Brigade forward every time we get the ball but we have to tip the balance more to going forward. We have to create something for Murray Oh but that is the point the Dangermouse was making, as now highlighted in bold. Swansea and Southampton are better teams than us, and all but a stupid mistake by Puncheon, we would've got a point against them which would've been excellent - Southampton are a QUALITY side. Swansea absolutely destroyed us at home under Holloway and FULHAM beat us 4-1!!! We are playing much better under Pulis and WE ARE OUT OF THE RELEGATION ZONE. I just can't understand people that are criticizing this guy!? Before he came we wouldn't still be in with a shout in our wildest dreams! The support has gone down hill of late and it really is frustrating, some people need to remember where we came from - we have the best chance to stay up in the Premier League for the first time in our history and if we do so Tony Pulis is nothing short of a legend! End of story, how people disagree with that because of so called "hoof ball" is beyond me! D'you think Chelsea fans right now are moaning about Mourinho and saying "I'd prefer to come second playing better football than City". It's ridiculous! We're the Arthur over ere!
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10 Mar 14 9.36am

Quote The Sash at 10 Mar 2014 8.48am

Quote Mstrobez at 10 Mar 2014 8.26am

Quote Dangermouse at 09 Mar 2014 2.42am

Quote Palace15eagle at 09 Mar 2014 12.17am

Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks...

If we go down playing football, I will be fine with that. If we survive playing this tripe for the next 5 or so years, well I definitely ain't fine with that.
Just my personal preference, but the division is not important, it's the way we play.

Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.32am)

Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.37am)

Having a game plan which seemingly is to sit on our own 18 yard box, let the opposition have the ball, maybe get a foot in and then see what happens, especially at home, is just a wasted opportunity.

Going down by losing by the odd goal in every game is still going down (although I dont care what Div we are in - I cant say I enjoy this PL mallarkey one bit)

Oh but that is the point the Dangermouse was making, as now highlighted in bold.

Swansea and Southampton are better teams than us, and all but a stupid mistake by Puncheon, we would've got a point against them which would've been excellent - Southampton are a QUALITY side. Swansea absolutely destroyed us at home under Holloway and FULHAM beat us 4-1!!! We are playing much better under Pulis and WE ARE OUT OF THE RELEGATION ZONE. I just can't understand people that are criticizing this guy!? Before he came we wouldn't still be in with a shout in our wildest dreams! The support has gone down hill of late and it really is frustrating, some people need to remember where we came from - we have the best chance to stay up in the Premier League for the first time in our history and if we do so Tony Pulis is nothing short of a legend! End of story, how people disagree with that because of so called "hoof ball" is beyond me! D'you think Chelsea fans right now are moaning about Mourinho and saying "I'd prefer to come second playing better football than City". It's ridiculous!

We're the Arthur over ere!

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 10 Mar 14 9.44am
Our present situation is similar to when Dougie Freedman took over from Burley. First job was to make us harder to beat - hence David Wright playing in front of the back four. We scraped through a number of 1-0 wins that season and stayed up. Seems to me that we are going the same way at the moment. Clearly TP doesn't trust the players to be capable of getting results by opening the play up more. It's frustrating to have to watch those tactics being employed when we play at home. However, I'm not sure where the answer is....we have in Glenn Murray a player capable of taking chances, but not it seems, anyone capable of providing the service he needs. I'm still hoping Tom Ince will provide that because for all of Bolasie's tricks and effort I see little end product. Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 10 Mar 14 9.44am

Our present situation is similar to when Dougie Freedman took over from Burley. First job was to make us harder to beat - hence David Wright playing in front of the back four. We scraped through a number of 1-0 wins that season and stayed up. Seems to me that we are going the same way at the moment. Clearly TP doesn't trust the players to be capable of getting results by opening the play up more. It's frustrating to have to watch those tactics being employed when we play at home.

However, I'm not sure where the answer is....we have in Glenn Murray a player capable of taking chances, but not it seems, anyone capable of providing the service he needs. I'm still hoping Tom Ince will provide that because for all of Bolasie's tricks and effort I see little end product.

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Beastie 10 Mar 14 10.31am
If we finish 17th or above, considering the circumstances, it will be this clubs greatest achievement. But apparently unless we play mythical ‘good football’, some people would throw that away. We’ve spent the last decade in the Championship and I don’t remember it being massively entertaining. Some fans are just spoilt brats.
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10 Mar 14 10.31am

If we finish 17th or above, considering the circumstances, it will be this clubs greatest achievement. But apparently unless we play mythical ‘good football’, some people would throw that away.

We’ve spent the last decade in the Championship and I don’t remember it being massively entertaining. Some fans are just spoilt brats.

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