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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Feb 14 6.24pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote hythemaceagle at 15 Feb 2014 5.41pm

Anyone remember Tony Millington (Bill Glazier's replacement)?

Yes - vaguely !
I think he left us for Peterborough.


 

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dg1937 Flag 15 Feb 14 8.11pm Send a Private Message to dg1937 Add dg1937 as a friend

Yes. If I remember rightly he and Jackson played about half the games each in the 64-65 season after Glazier left. I'm pretty sure Millington was a Welsh international. I was a bit young to notice much about his technique but he was a decent keeper I think.

 

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 15 Feb 14 8.29pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

my first palace game was 76 and think there's a lot of rose tinted stuff on here about the old days.

The modern goalkeepers are so much better than those of of this era there is no comparison.

Interestingly the likes of Burridge, Clemence and Shilton were barely. 6ft despite their quality.

IMO Martyn was the best and Jules isn't far away

 

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Durban Road Eagle Flag 15 Feb 14 8.41pm Send a Private Message to Durban Road Eagle Add Durban Road Eagle as a friend

Quote Rachid Rachid Rachid at 15 Feb 2014 8.29pm

my first palace game was 76 and think there's a lot of rose tinted stuff on here about the old days.

The modern goalkeepers are so much better than those of of this era there is no comparison.

Interestingly the likes of Burridge, Clemence and Shilton were barely. 6ft despite their quality.

IMO Martyn was the best and Jules isn't far away

I agree.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 16 Feb 14 9.02am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

The Gordon Banks Pele header save is still the best one I've ever seen. A lot of goalies around then didn't even wear gloves and the balls and pitches a lot more slippy. Plus the fact the opposition were allowed to be a lot more physical in their challenges. To make it to a high level they had to be really really good and if they weren't they were soon found out.

Not sure how Jules would have fared back then. Nigel? No problem.

 


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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 16 Feb 14 9.28am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

TBH I'm a little too young to remember the likes of Jackson in his prime although I saw him play for Orient against us although I have of course seen the Banks save. My statement was a bit on the bold side when you consider the very best players of the time

Take your point about the gloves and mud but also think the modern balls make it difficult and there perhaps wasn't the tendency a few years ago to analyse every goal that's scored.

Paul Hammond was in goal for Palace when I first started going. Also agree with comments about Perry Suckling being decent.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Feb 14 10.05am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Feb 2014 9.02am

The Gordon Banks Pele header save is still the best one I've ever seen. A lot of goalies around then didn't even wear gloves and the balls and pitches a lot more slippy.

I concur with these sentiments.

Harking back to the 'Good old days' I recall goalkeepers marking out their areas by using their boots to make a an indentation in the pitch in line with their posts to help them with their positioning.


 

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Hoof Hearted 16 Feb 14 11.18am

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Feb 2014 9.02am

The Gordon Banks Pele header save is still the best one I've ever seen. A lot of goalies around then didn't even wear gloves and the balls and pitches a lot more slippy. Plus the fact the opposition were allowed to be a lot more physical in their challenges. To make it to a high level they had to be really really good and if they weren't they were soon found out.

Not sure how Jules would have fared back then. Nigel? No problem.


Bonetti got dog's abuse for the WC quarterfinal loss to Germany in 1970, but he wasn't called the cat for nothing.

One afternoon at Stamford Bridge I saw him leap backwards and catch a shot that had gone over his head. It was much better than Banks' save from Pele which was amazing.

English goalkeepers back then were head and shoulders above any other nation.

Sadly Kermy, Scotland's were amongst the worst.

 

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adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 16 Feb 14 11.34am Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

My first games were when Big Bill was between the sticks but looked to be going. Palace had a very decent John 'Stonewall' Jackson coming through but considered too young and a bit dodgey. So Tony Millington, the Welsh goalie was bought to ease the way. It didn't take Jacko long to push him aside. Palace have had a good line of Welsh 'keepers up to Lewis Price, the best being Vic Rouse who made 257 appearances. But, like Lewis, non have made an impact.
There have been loads of one hit wonders, but one I remember as a very good 'keeper was Terry Gennoe. Here was a player who had been left high and dry when Hallifax went out of business and the FA took his registration. He played about 3 games and looked decent. Palace had a few on their books at the time so didn't take him permanently, which was a pity (mistake). And then the two Cedrics! Not really surprised neither lasted.
With the Palace record of producing top players on the goalie front it's not so clever. Apart from Jacko, Glazier and Hammond not another has been deemed good enough. Not even David Fry, who kept goal for the youth side of Hillaire, Samson, Nicholas, Fenwick etc. He made 50 odd appearnces but then got moved on in favour of Mr 'Flash' Burridge. Such a pity. The great Jimmy Glass didn't get one game! Hammond will have gone on to be one of the greatest, not just at Selhurst if he hadn't married a yank and moved out there. He did see 'international' football tho', playing for the US league v England (along with Stuart Jump). About time Palace knocked out another good'un.

 

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hdoust43 Flag Msidstone 16 Feb 14 11.58am Send a Private Message to hdoust43 Add hdoust43 as a friend

Jules save against watford in the play of final and the save against west brom last weekend, is enough for me to say he is one of if not the best keeper we have had.

 

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adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 16 Feb 14 12.08pm Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend


For those who were too young to see John Jackson, here are a few facts about the great man. After a tricky start Jacko went onto to make 393 apearances with an acreditation rating of 9.40! Compare that with Budgie (102 @ 8.11), Bill Glazier (119 @ 8.0), George Wood (221 @ 7.0), Mat Clarke (40 @ 7.77 tho' would have got more eventually),Vic Rouse (257 @ 9.13). Tony Burns (98 @ 6.2) or Paul Barron(101 @ 6.17). Rightly Nico Vaesen was mentioned but he only managed 13 games but still made a fair rating of 8.32.
Back to Jacko. After losing 1-0 at Stoke the Stoke 'keeper said he wasn't sure who was the England 'Keeper on the pitch that day. That remark came from Gordon Banks (of England) himself! Jacko arrived late for a match but said his elderly neighbour had had trouble with her water cistern that he'd promised to fix.(wow). He didn't make it into the England set-up, but he did get a run in a 0-0 for the Football League v Scottish League. Brian Moore suggested Jacko be included in the England squad for the 1970 World Cup, saying 'Jacko' won't let us down. And he wouldn't have done. (Bonnetti did).
Stonewall left Palace under a cloud, being too much of a character for the ego of Malcom Alison to get on with. With Geoff Hammond coming through, you maybe could understand that, but the hurt was great for the loyal Jackson (and for many supporters) and he left to play out his career at Orient and Millwall. The 'OOligans at the Den loved him and I last saw him play for them v Tooting and Mitcham in a cup match at Selhurst. Still a class act. Last laugh Jacko had on those who had wriiten off the 'old has been' was when Ipswich needed an English qualified goalie for their Euro cup season. They signed up the 42 year old who went on to play a match and keep a clean sheet. What a legend. Anyone now wondereing who was Palace's greatest player ever?

 

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adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 16 Feb 14 12.09pm Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

Last thought on this goalie thread. Did anyone see Mike Hunt play?

 

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