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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Jan 14 10.52am
Quote sydtheeagle at 18 Jan 2014 10.47am Quote Plane at 18 Jan 2014 10.35am Syd, it looks to me, reading between the lines, that you think SP is 'flash' and perhaps a little jealousy from you as well. I don't think you need to read too far between the lines :-) You're right; Parrish is vulgar (in the actual sense of the word) though call it flash or whatever you want to and, yes, flash is neither my style nor one that I respect in others. I do realise there is more than one style and also that people have every right to adopt the style they want but I don't personally warm to, or respect, those that I consider tasteless. But I underline that is just my view. Jealousy, no. I have a wonderful life and I really, honestly wouldn't change anything I have now for anything Parrish has. You can believe me or not, but that is the case. He really just turns me off; sorry, but it's that simple. I find nothing sympathetic or attractive about him at all. I respect his obvious achievements, but that's about it. I'd call SJ vulgar and I couldn't stand him (although I'd give credit where it was due) SP is savvy and ruthless.He weighs up the options and goes for the one he feels is best, which is what I hope he does now TP has done as much as you could ask and hopefully after 4-6 points after Stoke & Hull. Both have unnecessarily long blonde hair for 40 year old males, that is where the comparison ends. One was a fool easily parted from his money and the other is always looking how he can get an edge or eek out as much as he can from a situation. Unfortunately the Premier League doesn't always present those kind of opportunities so it comes down to being bold or not. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 18 Jan 14 10.52am

Quote sydtheeagle at 18 Jan 2014 10.47am

Quote Plane at 18 Jan 2014 10.35am

Syd, it looks to me, reading between the lines, that you think SP is 'flash' and perhaps a little jealousy from you as well.

I don't think you need to read too far between the lines :-)

You're right; Parrish is vulgar (in the actual sense of the word) though call it flash or whatever you want to and, yes, flash is neither my style nor one that I respect in others. I do realise there is more than one style and also that people have every right to adopt the style they want but I don't personally warm to, or respect, those that I consider tasteless. But I underline that is just my view.

Jealousy, no. I have a wonderful life and I really, honestly wouldn't change anything I have now for anything Parrish has. You can believe me or not, but that is the case. He really just turns me off; sorry, but it's that simple. I find nothing sympathetic or attractive about him at all. I respect his obvious achievements, but that's about it.

I'd call SJ vulgar and I couldn't stand him (although I'd give credit where it was due)

SP is savvy and ruthless.He weighs up the options and goes for the one he feels is best, which is what I hope he does now TP has done as much as you could ask and hopefully after 4-6 points after Stoke & Hull.

Both have unnecessarily long blonde hair for 40 year old males, that is where the comparison ends. One was a fool easily parted from his money and the other is always looking how he can get an edge or eek out as much as he can from a situation. Unfortunately the Premier League doesn't always present those kind of opportunities so it comes down to being bold or not.

COYP

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sydtheeagle England 18 Jan 14 10.54am
Quote Plane at 18 Jan 2014 10.52am Fair enough, I will bare this in mind when reading any future posts from you concerning SP, much as you may deny it, your opinion of him will alter your reasoning. 100% it will. I would not only not deny it, but that is why I exposed my view of SP in the first place this morning. I wanted to make it clear to anyone reading my thoughts that they were indeed coloured by my personal dislike of Parrish. I think it's important to understand not just what someone says but also the context and I am well aware that sometimes I cannot separate emotion from objectivity. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote Plane at 18 Jan 2014 10.52am

Fair enough, I will bare this in mind when reading any future posts from you concerning SP, much as you may deny it, your opinion of him will alter your reasoning.

100% it will. I would not only not deny it, but that is why I exposed my view of SP in the first place this morning. I wanted to make it clear to anyone reading my thoughts that they were indeed coloured by my personal dislike of Parrish. I think it's important to understand not just what someone says but also the context and I am well aware that sometimes I cannot separate emotion from objectivity.

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Plane Bromley 18 Jan 14 10.54am
Quote Rudi Hedman at 18 Jan 2014 10.52am Quote sydtheeagle at 18 Jan 2014 10.47am Quote Plane at 18 Jan 2014 10.35am Syd, it looks to me, reading between the lines, that you think SP is 'flash' and perhaps a little jealousy from you as well. I don't think you need to read too far between the lines :-) You're right; Parrish is vulgar (in the actual sense of the word) though call it flash or whatever you want to and, yes, flash is neither my style nor one that I respect in others. I do realise there is more than one style and also that people have every right to adopt the style they want but I don't personally warm to, or respect, those that I consider tasteless. But I underline that is just my view. Jealousy, no. I have a wonderful life and I really, honestly wouldn't change anything I have now for anything Parrish has. You can believe me or not, but that is the case. He really just turns me off; sorry, but it's that simple. I find nothing sympathetic or attractive about him at all. I respect his obvious achievements, but that's about it. I'd call SJ vulgar and I couldn't stand him (although I'd give credit where it was due) SP is savvy and ruthless.He weighs up the options and goes for the one he feels is best, which is what I hope he does now TP has done as much as you could ask and hopefully after 4-6 points after Stoke & Hull. Both have unnecessarily long blonde hair for 40 year old males, that is where the comparison ends. One was a fool easily parted from his money and the other is always looking how he can get an edge or eek out as much as he can from a situation. Unfortunately the Premier League doesn't always present those kind of opportunities so it comes down to being bold or not. Agreed.
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Plane

Bromley 18 Jan 14 10.54am

Quote Rudi Hedman at 18 Jan 2014 10.52am

Quote sydtheeagle at 18 Jan 2014 10.47am

Quote Plane at 18 Jan 2014 10.35am

Syd, it looks to me, reading between the lines, that you think SP is 'flash' and perhaps a little jealousy from you as well.

I don't think you need to read too far between the lines :-)

I'd call SJ vulgar and I couldn't stand him (although I'd give credit where it was due)

Both have unnecessarily long blonde hair for 40 year old males, that is where the comparison ends. One was a fool easily parted from his money and the other is always looking how he can get an edge or eek out as much as he can from a situation. Unfortunately the Premier League doesn't always present those kind of opportunities so it comes down to being bold or not.

Agreed.

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sydtheeagle England 18 Jan 14 11.00am
Quote Rudi Hedman at 18 Jan 2014 10.52am I'd call SJ vulgar and I couldn't stand him (although I'd give credit where it was due) SP is savvy and ruthless.He weighs up the options and goes for the one he feels is best, which is what I hope he does now TP has done as much as you could ask and hopefully after 4-6 points after Stoke & Hull. Both have unnecessarily long blonde hair for 40 year old males, that is where the comparison ends. One was a fool easily parted from his money and the other is always looking how he can get an edge or eek out as much as he can from a situation. Unfortunately the Premier League doesn't always present those kind of opportunities so it comes down to being bold or not. It's interesting you bring up Jordan because I almost included him in my reply to Plane but decided not to at the last minute. You're right, though, that he's the obvious analogy to Parrish. Oddly, though you won't be surprised to know that I disliked Jordan as much as I dislike Parrish in a general sense, I also have a very slight soft spot for him. I'm not quite sure why that's the case but perhaps in being a victim of his own stupidity...perhaps in just lacking ultimate ruthlessness...to me he ended up as a tragic figure as much as a failure. I swing between thinking of Jordan as a nasty piece of work and someone whose heart was in the right place, but who didn't have the tools to get his head to follow. Jordan's initial business success, I think, was down to very hard work and sheer, blind luck because by no stretch of the imagination does he seem to be either clever or possessed of good judgment. With regard to Parrish, I think your judgment is pretty accurate. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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sydtheeagle

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Quote Rudi Hedman at 18 Jan 2014 10.52am

I'd call SJ vulgar and I couldn't stand him (although I'd give credit where it was due)

It's interesting you bring up Jordan because I almost included him in my reply to Plane but decided not to at the last minute. You're right, though, that he's the obvious analogy to Parrish.

Oddly, though you won't be surprised to know that I disliked Jordan as much as I dislike Parrish in a general sense, I also have a very slight soft spot for him. I'm not quite sure why that's the case but perhaps in being a victim of his own stupidity...perhaps in just lacking ultimate ruthlessness...to me he ended up as a tragic figure as much as a failure.

I swing between thinking of Jordan as a nasty piece of work and someone whose heart was in the right place, but who didn't have the tools to get his head to follow. Jordan's initial business success, I think, was down to very hard work and sheer, blind luck because by no stretch of the imagination does he seem to be either clever or possessed of good judgment.

With regard to Parrish, I think your judgment is pretty accurate.

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Plane Bromley 18 Jan 14 11.01am
Quote sydtheeagle at 18 Jan 2014 10.54am Quote Plane at 18 Jan 2014 10.52am Fair enough, I will bare this in mind when reading any future posts from you concerning SP, much as you may deny it, your opinion of him will alter your reasoning. 100% it will. I would not only not deny it, but that is why I exposed my view of SP in the first place this morning. I wanted to make it clear to anyone reading my thoughts that they were indeed coloured by my personal dislike of Parrish. I think it's important to understand not just what someone says but also the context and I am well aware that sometimes I cannot separate emotion from objectivity. Not many can.
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Plane

Bromley 18 Jan 14 11.01am

Quote sydtheeagle at 18 Jan 2014 10.54am

Quote Plane at 18 Jan 2014 10.52am

Fair enough, I will bare this in mind when reading any future posts from you concerning SP, much as you may deny it, your opinion of him will alter your reasoning.

100% it will. I would not only not deny it, but that is why I exposed my view of SP in the first place this morning. I wanted to make it clear to anyone reading my thoughts that they were indeed coloured by my personal dislike of Parrish. I think it's important to understand not just what someone says but also the context and I am well aware that sometimes I cannot separate emotion from objectivity.

Not many can.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 18 Jan 14 11.11am
Quote sydtheeagle at 18 Jan 2014 10.19am Quote braunstoneagle at 17 Jan 2014 6.56pm syd...to adress your counterpoints... 1...But it's also at least possible that there are fans of Palace who are even better equipped to run the club than they are, but choose not to get involved. if those people have (lets say) £70m to buy the club then i suppose they can run the club as they like in a better way than cpfc2010...as it stands 2010 own the club, and can do as they wish. 2...of your you are correct there is a halfway house between loftus road and selhurst park...its probably somehwere around the fulham/sunderland mark, which isnt proving that successful and they probably pay somewhere around £40m+ per annum in wages... more than double what we do. 3...to a certain extent i agree with you there...the ideal singing you would break the structure for would be somebody like tom ince who will at least have a high sell on fee in the future so you get your outlay back. 4/5/6...cant disagree...theres a line i believe between how much you have to spend to really give yourself the upper hand above the teams around you, dont forget even if we spend 10m then the teams around us will probably still have better squads, so were realistically spending money to balance the scales, not balance it in our favour. 7...but are we "moral custodians"? we are simply customers of a buisness...if you go to the cinema and watch oceans 11/12/13 your a customer but you dont and wont have any imput into how oceans 14 pans out do you? i get what your saying but in reality its not our money that brought the club and were not running it! We simply have to accept that...and all the moaning on the forums aint going to change a thing...we are fans/customers of a buisness, and thats the harsh reality. we would all like the buisness to spend £20m on the best talent around but id rather we were sensible. Braunie: And to respond... 1. if those people have (lets say) £70m to buy the club then i suppose they can run the club as they like in a better way than cpfc2010...as it stands 2010 own the club, and can do as they wish. Agreed. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't question them. (By the way, while I respect what CPFC2010 have done, I really don't warm to Parrish at all. Not that it's relevant, just being open. Of the four, he's the one I find the least appealing, persuasive, and articulate. I've never quite understood -- other than Parrish seems to have the biggest ego -- why the others would let him represent them the way he does.) 2...of your you are correct there is a halfway house between loftus road and selhurst park...its probably somehwere around the fulham/sunderland mark, which isnt proving that successful and they probably pay somewhere around £40m+ per annum in wages... more than double what we do. Yes, I think you have a very good point there. Can't argue with that at all. Interestingly, the most viable and sustainable halfway house model was probably the one created by Tony Pulis at Stoke. With that in mind, isn't it an argument for supporting the pursuit of what he wants? 3. but are we "moral custodians"? we are simply customers of a buisness...if you go to the cinema and watch oceans 11/12/13 your a customer but you dont and wont have any imput into how oceans 14 pans out do you? I see your point, but aren't we always saying "football isn't film (or whatever)"? I can take this one either way...I can see the arguments that owners own the club and what fans want is irrelevant but I can also see the counter-argument that fans are the true owners of the club and the actual owners are only holding it for them. TBH, I don't have an issue with either perspective but I do think there needs to be consistency. The same person who says "Allam doesn't have a right to ignore Hull supporters and change the clubs name" cannot then turn round say "we have to be grateful to CPFC2010 and never criticise anything they do." And I think there are people on here (not you, but some people) who try to have it both ways. That annoys me. With regard to your last point: "we would all like the buisiness to spend £20m on the best talent around but id rather we were sensible", I think where we may differ is that I don't being sensible and spending money are mutually exclusive. "Sensible" to me is protecting the value of your investment without taking extreme risks. That means spending more money than may have, but less than would bankrupt you. There is a medium; if we disagree about anything it's probably where that line is. Good debate, by the way. Edited by sydtheeagle (18 Jan 2014 10.20am) syd... i think its hard for me to see your views about parish...when the 4 people took over CPFC 2010 he was chosen as the figurehead so to speak, and the one who would do the day to day running of the club. as a result of this we havnt really seen much, or anything of the other owners in the media. i see him as articlaute, media friendly and sensible. you could say that right now there arnt many comparisons on the paths our club has taken since the takeover than SJ's 1st few years in charge of the club. but theres one difference that makes me feel positive about the club in 2010's hands...Parish seems to choose which battles he fights, and isnt quite as "cocksure" as SJ was...when DF upped and went to bolton parish wouldav been well within his rights to kick us a fuss ala brucey to brum, but he didnt...he picked himself up, dusted himself down (im sure his pride was hurt) and got on with it, drew a line in the sand and got holloway in pretty quickly. when bolton came back for the backroom team...he was mature about it and dealt with the situation properly. when holloway left, he didnt panic, and wasnt pressured into a decision by fan unrest...he took his time, and i think we can all hand on heart say that the right decision was made in the end. all in all, im at the polar opposite to you when it comes to parish. on your note about following stokes blueprint for PL football...again, personally i cant see your POV on this, stoke city never brought players with resaleable value and more often than not brought players who were in their late 20's for high transfer fees and wages...and im pretty sure there isnt one player they signed and sold for a profit during pulis's time at the club...this isnt the way 2010 want to do things, and i dont blame them. tho later in your post you contradict yourself by saying we should sign players with resale value...which is my preferred method. spending 9m on a 30 y/o peter crouch wouldnt sit well with me, or 3.9m on cameron jerome from birmingham. to finish syd...i dont think the sun shines and out 2010's backside, and they arnt perfect...but if were being completely honest...considering they are still reasonably "green" when it comes to football they are doing a brilliant job...and maybe parish doesnt quite have the ego you describe as he acknowledged he doesnt have the skillset yet to run a club on his own so he employed moody to help with the areas he feels he is short on knowledge on...that in my eyes takes more balls than carrying on your own. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Quote sydtheeagle at 18 Jan 2014 10.19am

Quote braunstoneagle at 17 Jan 2014 6.56pm

syd...to adress your counterpoints...

1...But it's also at least possible that there are fans of Palace who are even better equipped to run the club than they are, but choose not to get involved.

if those people have (lets say) £70m to buy the club then i suppose they can run the club as they like in a better way than cpfc2010...as it stands 2010 own the club, and can do as they wish.

2...of your you are correct there is a halfway house between loftus road and selhurst park...its probably somehwere around the fulham/sunderland mark, which isnt proving that successful and they probably pay somewhere around £40m+ per annum in wages... more than double what we do.

3...to a certain extent i agree with you there...the ideal singing you would break the structure for would be somebody like tom ince who will at least have a high sell on fee in the future so you get your outlay back.

4/5/6...cant disagree...theres a line i believe between how much you have to spend to really give yourself the upper hand above the teams around you, dont forget even if we spend 10m then the teams around us will probably still have better squads, so were realistically spending money to balance the scales, not balance it in our favour.

7...but are we "moral custodians"? we are simply customers of a buisness...if you go to the cinema and watch oceans 11/12/13 your a customer but you dont and wont have any imput into how oceans 14 pans out do you?

i get what your saying but in reality its not our money that brought the club and were not running it! We simply have to accept that...and all the moaning on the forums aint going to change a thing...we are fans/customers of a buisness, and thats the harsh reality. we would all like the buisness to spend £20m on the best talent around but id rather we were sensible.

Braunie:

And to respond...

1. if those people have (lets say) £70m to buy the club then i suppose they can run the club as they like in a better way than cpfc2010...as it stands 2010 own the club, and can do as they wish.

Agreed. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't question them. (By the way, while I respect what CPFC2010 have done, I really don't warm to Parrish at all. Not that it's relevant, just being open. Of the four, he's the one I find the least appealing, persuasive, and articulate. I've never quite understood -- other than Parrish seems to have the biggest ego -- why the others would let him represent them the way he does.)

Yes, I think you have a very good point there. Can't argue with that at all. Interestingly, the most viable and sustainable halfway house model was probably the one created by Tony Pulis at Stoke. With that in mind, isn't it an argument for supporting the pursuit of what he wants?

3. but are we "moral custodians"? we are simply customers of a buisness...if you go to the cinema and watch oceans 11/12/13 your a customer but you dont and wont have any imput into how oceans 14 pans out do you?

I see your point, but aren't we always saying "football isn't film (or whatever)"? I can take this one either way...I can see the arguments that owners own the club and what fans want is irrelevant but I can also see the counter-argument that fans are the true owners of the club and the actual owners are only holding it for them. TBH, I don't have an issue with either perspective but I do think there needs to be consistency. The same person who says "Allam doesn't have a right to ignore Hull supporters and change the clubs name" cannot then turn round say "we have to be grateful to CPFC2010 and never criticise anything they do." And I think there are people on here (not you, but some people) who try to have it both ways. That annoys me.

With regard to your last point: "we would all like the buisiness to spend £20m on the best talent around but id rather we were sensible", I think where we may differ is that I don't being sensible and spending money are mutually exclusive. "Sensible" to me is protecting the value of your investment without taking extreme risks. That means spending more money than may have, but less than would bankrupt you. There is a medium; if we disagree about anything it's probably where that line is.

Good debate, by the way.

Edited by sydtheeagle (18 Jan 2014 10.20am)

syd...

i think its hard for me to see your views about parish...when the 4 people took over CPFC 2010 he was chosen as the figurehead so to speak, and the one who would do the day to day running of the club.

as a result of this we havnt really seen much, or anything of the other owners in the media.

i see him as articlaute, media friendly and sensible.

you could say that right now there arnt many comparisons on the paths our club has taken since the takeover than SJ's 1st few years in charge of the club.

but theres one difference that makes me feel positive about the club in 2010's hands...Parish seems to choose which battles he fights, and isnt quite as "cocksure" as SJ was...when DF upped and went to bolton parish wouldav been well within his rights to kick us a fuss ala brucey to brum, but he didnt...he picked himself up, dusted himself down (im sure his pride was hurt) and got on with it, drew a line in the sand and got holloway in pretty quickly.

when bolton came back for the backroom team...he was mature about it and dealt with the situation properly.

when holloway left, he didnt panic, and wasnt pressured into a decision by fan unrest...he took his time, and i think we can all hand on heart say that the right decision was made in the end.

all in all, im at the polar opposite to you when it comes to parish.

on your note about following stokes blueprint for PL football...again, personally i cant see your POV on this, stoke city never brought players with resaleable value and more often than not brought players who were in their late 20's for high transfer fees and wages...and im pretty sure there isnt one player they signed and sold for a profit during pulis's time at the club...this isnt the way 2010 want to do things, and i dont blame them.

tho later in your post you contradict yourself by saying we should sign players with resale value...which is my preferred method.

spending 9m on a 30 y/o peter crouch wouldnt sit well with me, or 3.9m on cameron jerome from birmingham.

to finish syd...i dont think the sun shines and out 2010's backside, and they arnt perfect...but if were being completely honest...considering they are still reasonably "green" when it comes to football they are doing a brilliant job...and maybe parish doesnt quite have the ego you describe as he acknowledged he doesnt have the skillset yet to run a club on his own so he employed moody to help with the areas he feels he is short on knowledge on...that in my eyes takes more balls than carrying on your own.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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Stirlingsays 18 Jan 14 11.16am
Quote sydtheeagle at 18 Jan 2014 10.54am Quote Plane at 18 Jan 2014 10.52am Fair enough, I will bare this in mind when reading any future posts from you concerning SP, much as you may deny it, your opinion of him will alter your reasoning. 100% it will. I would not only not deny it, but that is why I exposed my view of SP in the first place this morning. I wanted to make it clear to anyone reading my thoughts that they were indeed coloured by my personal dislike of Parrish. I think it's important to understand not just what someone says but also the context and I am well aware that sometimes I cannot separate emotion from objectivity. I like the honesty. It's something I battle with as well and occasionally fail with. But it's the ultimate sign of an self actualized adult and thus equates to a worthy life long intent. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote sydtheeagle at 18 Jan 2014 10.54am

Quote Plane at 18 Jan 2014 10.52am

Fair enough, I will bare this in mind when reading any future posts from you concerning SP, much as you may deny it, your opinion of him will alter your reasoning.

100% it will. I would not only not deny it, but that is why I exposed my view of SP in the first place this morning. I wanted to make it clear to anyone reading my thoughts that they were indeed coloured by my personal dislike of Parrish. I think it's important to understand not just what someone says but also the context and I am well aware that sometimes I cannot separate emotion from objectivity.

I like the honesty.

It's something I battle with as well and occasionally fail with. But it's the ultimate sign of an self actualized adult and thus equates to a worthy life long intent.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Jan 14 11.16am
Quote braunstoneagle at 18 Jan 2014 11.11am but theres one difference that makes me feel positive about the club in 2010's hands...Parish seems to choose which battles he fights, and isnt quite as "cocksure" as SJ was...when DF upped and went to bolton parish wouldav been well within his rights to kick us a fuss ala brucey to brum, but he didnt...he picked himself up, dusted himself down (im sure his pride was hurt) and got on with it, drew a line in the sand and got holloway in pretty quickly. when bolton came back for the backroom team...he was mature about it and dealt with the situation properly. when holloway left, he didnt panic, and wasnt pressured into a decision by fan unrest...he took his time, and i think we can all hand on heart say that the right decision was made in the end. Bang on. COYP
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Quote braunstoneagle at 18 Jan 2014 11.11am

but theres one difference that makes me feel positive about the club in 2010's hands...Parish seems to choose which battles he fights, and isnt quite as "cocksure" as SJ was...when DF upped and went to bolton parish wouldav been well within his rights to kick us a fuss ala brucey to brum, but he didnt...he picked himself up, dusted himself down (im sure his pride was hurt) and got on with it, drew a line in the sand and got holloway in pretty quickly.

when bolton came back for the backroom team...he was mature about it and dealt with the situation properly.

when holloway left, he didnt panic, and wasnt pressured into a decision by fan unrest...he took his time, and i think we can all hand on heart say that the right decision was made in the end.

Bang on.

COYP

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Plane Bromley 18 Jan 14 11.21am
Quote Rudi Hedman at 18 Jan 2014 11.16am Quote braunstoneagle at 18 Jan 2014 11.11am but theres one difference that makes me feel positive about the club in 2010's hands...Parish seems to choose which battles he fights, and isnt quite as "cocksure" as SJ was...when DF upped and went to bolton parish wouldav been well within his rights to kick us a fuss ala brucey to brum, but he didnt...he picked himself up, dusted himself down (im sure his pride was hurt) and got on with it, drew a line in the sand and got holloway in pretty quickly. when bolton came back for the backroom team...he was mature about it and dealt with the situation properly. when holloway left, he didnt panic, and wasnt pressured into a decision by fan unrest...he took his time, and i think we can all hand on heart say that the right decision was made in the end. Bang on. X 2
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Quote Rudi Hedman at 18 Jan 2014 11.16am

Quote braunstoneagle at 18 Jan 2014 11.11am

but theres one difference that makes me feel positive about the club in 2010's hands...Parish seems to choose which battles he fights, and isnt quite as "cocksure" as SJ was...when DF upped and went to bolton parish wouldav been well within his rights to kick us a fuss ala brucey to brum, but he didnt...he picked himself up, dusted himself down (im sure his pride was hurt) and got on with it, drew a line in the sand and got holloway in pretty quickly.

when bolton came back for the backroom team...he was mature about it and dealt with the situation properly.

when holloway left, he didnt panic, and wasnt pressured into a decision by fan unrest...he took his time, and i think we can all hand on heart say that the right decision was made in the end.

Bang on.

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sydtheeagle England 18 Jan 14 11.37am
Braunie -- won't copy your post out in full but respect. There was a lot of good sense in there and some of it has persuaded me to moderate my views. I will never like the man but your defense of many aspects of his "rule" was cogent and I cannot dispute it. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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England 18 Jan 14 11.37am

Braunie -- won't copy your post out in full but respect. There was a lot of good sense in there and some of it has persuaded me to moderate my views. I will never like the man but your defense of many aspects of his "rule" was cogent and I cannot dispute it.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 18 Jan 14 12.07pm
syd...are there certain instances that you can pinpoint that causes your dislike of parish? or situations you think he has handled badly? in generally curious Edited by braunstoneagle (18 Jan 2014 12.07pm) ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 18 Jan 14 12.07pm

syd...are there certain instances that you can pinpoint that causes your dislike of parish?

or situations you think he has handled badly?

in generally curious

Edited by braunstoneagle (18 Jan 2014 12.07pm)

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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nosy leicestershire 18 Jan 14 1.29pm
Hav,nt 2010 brought the training ground as a asset to be included in the portfolio?
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leicestershire 18 Jan 14 1.29pm

Hav,nt 2010 brought the training ground as a asset to be included in the portfolio?

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