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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 27 Jul 24 11.19am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Harris hasn't been to Europe either........what an interview

If Trump stays on policies and failures of Biden and Dems he will win

I don't think the swing states will go for a vacuous Commifornian, a l,ot of her past record will come out now from her time as " prosecutor ", she was an administrator for most of her time

Edited by HKOwen (27 Jul 2024 11.22am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 27 Jul 24 11.24am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Point was made today that Zelensky is not allowed under Ukraine law to do a deal with Putin but is making noises behind the scenes as he realises kicking Russia out of all Ukraines territory pre 2014 is likely impossible and Ukraine cannot keep up the meatgrinder endlessly

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Jul 24 11.27am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Harris hasn't been to Europe either........what an interview

If Trump stays on policies and failures of Biden and Dems he will win

I don't think the swing states will go for a vacuous Commifornian, a l,ot of her past record will come out now from her time as " prosecutor ", she was an administrator for most of her time

Edited by HKOwen (27 Jul 2024 11.22am)

She done jailed all those black folk.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Jul 24 12.26pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

BBC's thoughts on how Trump will go after Harris.

[Link]

It's not a bad assessment as they do acknowledge her short comings.

 


One more point

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Houston Eagle Flag Houston 27 Jul 24 12.55pm Send a Private Message to Houston Eagle Add Houston Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It’s no more “all true” than any statement that Trump makes! Which is unsurprising given where it originates.

It’s a propaganda hit piece from a right wing website. So transparently so it will fool nobody but those already determined to vote for Trump. They don’t matter in this election any more than the determined anti-Trumpers.

Harris will bring out the youth vote. She will galvanise the urban female vote. She will swing some of the undecided independents. It may not be enough, but it could be.

Which looks a whole lot better than it was only a few days ago.

The majority of statements are factually correct. I’m not attributing any virtues to Trump or right wing media, but merely saying that dispite Joe addressing the nation with “would I lie to you the American people”, the Dems lie and cheat as well!!!

Listin to media this is not the case as they are the virtuous party who can do or tell no evil.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 27 Jul 24 7.02pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Houston Eagle

The majority of statements are factually correct. I’m not attributing any virtues to Trump or right wing media, but merely saying that dispite Joe addressing the nation with “would I lie to you the American people”, the Dems lie and cheat as well!!!

Listin to media this is not the case as they are the virtuous party who can do or tell no evil.

Every politician in any country can be accused of lying. In truth almost everyone alive could be at some time, over something. Politicians who hold power cannot sometimes tell the whole truth for reasons of national security or to avoid compromising an investigation. Opposition politicians lie to deceive and make promises that they know cannot be fulfilled.

It’s all a matter of degrees and on what scale you value those degrees. Lies, as with beauty, are in the perception of the holder.

So the question is not going to be whether one group or the other thinks the other is lying. They both will. It’s how the group in the middle react. If Harris can be presented as a fresher, younger and dynamic alternative to the old men of the recent past, get out the young and active female vote, then there is every chance that her baggage will prove less weighty than Trump’s.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 27 Jul 24 8.11pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Every politician in any country can be accused of lying. In truth almost everyone alive could be at some time, over something. Politicians who hold power cannot sometimes tell the whole truth for reasons of national security or to avoid compromising an investigation. Opposition politicians lie to deceive and make promises that they know cannot be fulfilled.

It’s all a matter of degrees and on what scale you value those degrees. Lies, as with beauty, are in the perception of the holder.

So the question is not going to be whether one group or the other thinks the other is lying. They both will. It’s how the group in the middle react. If Harris can be presented as a fresher, younger and dynamic alternative to the old men of the recent past, get out the young and active female vote, then there is every chance that her baggage will prove less weighty than Trump’s.

So the dems were full blow lying when trump was the president as you just stated about the opposition. Trump being in power and I paraphrase you, was lying a little maybe to protect national security or not to compromise any investigations.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 27 Jul 24 10.34pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So the dems were full blow lying when trump was the president as you just stated about the opposition. Trump being in power and I paraphrase you, was lying a little maybe to protect national security or not to compromise any investigations.

I didn’t say anything of the sort. As well you know.

Accusations of lying doesn’t mean they are true. There is absolutely no need to tell lies about Trump. You have only to watch and listen to him to know that almost everything he says has little or no factual basis. So the Democrats aren’t lying about him. They are simply reporting on him.

Lies can be told about many things. They can be excused if national security or investigations are involved but not when they involve everything that is said.

Trump is an exceptional case who clearly has a poor grasp of reality. He seems to think that whatever he says, often on the spur of the moment, is true.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 27 Jul 24 10.57pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I didn’t say anything of the sort. As well you know.

Accusations of lying doesn’t mean they are true. There is absolutely no need to tell lies about Trump. You have only to watch and listen to him to know that almost everything he says has little or no factual basis. So the Democrats aren’t lying about him. They are simply reporting on him.

Lies can be told about many things. They can be excused if national security or investigations are involved but not when they involve everything that is said.

Trump is an exceptional case who clearly has a poor grasp of reality. He seems to think that whatever he says, often on the spur of the moment, is true.

If he thinks it's true then is he lying?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Jul 24 8.23am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If he thinks it's true then is he lying?



If he truly believes it he is simply mistaken.

I don’t though think he does. I think he is misrepresenting what was said.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 28 Jul 24 9.44pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle



If he truly believes it he is simply mistaken.

I don’t though think he does. I think he is misrepresenting what was said.

So when you said

He seems to think that whatever he says, often on the spur of the moment, is true.

You didn't mean that he believes it's true.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Jul 24 10.54pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So when you said

He seems to think that whatever he says, often on the spur of the moment, is true.

You didn't mean that he believes it's true.

That was directed at the poster. Not at Trump. I can see though how that might be misinterpreted for which I apologise.

 


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