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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Nov 20 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

The point also is that why are there masks or why was there so few people in before masks then? It’ll be the same everywhere and doesn’t make a lot of sense. It doesn’t make much difference to people who can move about easily.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 14 Nov 20 9.01am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

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Bet Liverpool are well p***ed off with him

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 14 Nov 20 9.18am

Originally posted by Spiderman

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Bet Liverpool are well p***ed off with him

Haha, no half measures there.

"Salah is keeping a high spirit and is not showing any symptoms of the virus," said the EFA in a statement.


A weird statement from the EFA really, amounting to "He's fine, you wouldn't even know he had it!" How reassuring for others lol.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Nov 20 10.16am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

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People who find they’re in this T-cell protected, already had it group will be glad, if this test is allowed to happen with the vaccine on the way.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 14 Nov 20 11.06am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber


The shelf stock is of no relevance. We are simply discussing the vast space available in the aisles when there are only 4 people in them (Irrespective of how full the shelves are )

I know, it was a veiled attempt at ironic humour.

Its my regular supermarket and I had no issues with crowding there either during the initial lockdown or after. The only point I was making originally was that there were substantially more people in there after lockdown and after making face coverings compulsory, which indirectly made it appear that the advent of face coverings initiated the higher numbers in the store.

 

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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 14 Nov 20 12.12pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I know, it was a veiled attempt at ironic humour.

Its my regular supermarket and I had no issues with crowding there either during the initial lockdown or after. The only point I was making originally was that there were substantially more people in there after lockdown and after making face coverings compulsory, which indirectly made it appear that the advent of face coverings initiated the higher numbers in the store.

Apologies, it is sometimes difficult to interpret the true context of a post when it is written and not spoken in person etc.

I think the wearing of masks has reassured a number of people and encouraged them to be able to go into public spaces ands buildings with a bit more confidence around the infection control measures and their own safety. Plus the fact that more people were out and about once lockdown was eased anyway.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 14 Nov 20 12.41pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

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People who find they’re in this T-cell protected, already had it group will be glad, if this test is allowed to happen with the vaccine on the way.

Really good news, in terms of a more targetted use of the vaccine. Also this this treatment for hospitalised patients looks to make a real difference [Link]

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 15 Nov 20 6.07pm

Damage to multiple organs recorded in 'long Covid' cases - [Link]

"Young and previously healthy people with ongoing symptoms of Covid-19 are showing signs of damage to multiple organs four months after the initial infection, a study suggests.

The findings are a step towards unpicking the physical underpinnings and developing treatments for some of the strange and extensive symptoms experienced by people with “long Covid”, which is thought to affect more than 60,000 people in the UK. Fatigue, brain fog, breathlessness and pain are among the most frequently reported effects.

On Sunday, the NHS announced it would launch a network of more than 40 long Covid specialist clinics where doctors, nurses and therapists will assess patients’ physical and psychological symptoms.

The Coverscan study aims to assess the long-term impact of Covid-19 on organ health in around 500 “low-risk” individuals – those who are relatively young and without any major underlying health complaints – with ongoing Covid symptoms, through a combination of MRI scans, blood tests, physical measurements and online questionnaires.

Preliminary data from the first 200 patients to undergo screening suggests that almost 70% have impairments in one or more organs, including the heart, lungs, liver and pancreas, four months after their initial illness.

“The good news is that the impairment is mild, but even with a conservative lens, there is some impairment, and in 25% of people it affects two or more organs,” said Amitava Banerjee, a cardiologist and associate professor of clinical data science at University College London.

“This is of interest because we need to know if [the impairments] continue or improve – or if there is a subgroup of people who could get worse.”

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Nov 20 7.25pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Damage to multiple organs recorded in 'long Covid' cases - [Link]

"Young and previously healthy people with ongoing symptoms of Covid-19 are showing signs of damage to multiple organs four months after the initial infection, a study suggests.

The findings are a step towards unpicking the physical underpinnings and developing treatments for some of the strange and extensive symptoms experienced by people with “long Covid”, which is thought to affect more than 60,000 people in the UK. Fatigue, brain fog, breathlessness and pain are among the most frequently reported effects.

On Sunday, the NHS announced it would launch a network of more than 40 long Covid specialist clinics where doctors, nurses and therapists will assess patients’ physical and psychological symptoms.

The Coverscan study aims to assess the long-term impact of Covid-19 on organ health in around 500 “low-risk” individuals – those who are relatively young and without any major underlying health complaints – with ongoing Covid symptoms, through a combination of MRI scans, blood tests, physical measurements and online questionnaires.

Preliminary data from the first 200 patients to undergo screening suggests that almost 70% have impairments in one or more organs, including the heart, lungs, liver and pancreas, four months after their initial illness.

“The good news is that the impairment is mild, but even with a conservative lens, there is some impairment, and in 25% of people it affects two or more organs,” said Amitava Banerjee, a cardiologist and associate professor of clinical data science at University College London.

“This is of interest because we need to know if [the impairments] continue or improve – or if there is a subgroup of people who could get worse.”

The last line question is important to allow people to carry on with life as normal. Albeit an injury early in life whether by physical or disease can forever be a time bomb. I'm sure there is some thought on this long covid being what is being or trying to be prevented with our current and possible future restrictions.

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 15 Nov 20 7.37pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Damage to multiple organs recorded in 'long Covid' cases - [Link]

"Young and previously healthy people with ongoing symptoms of Covid-19 are showing signs of damage to multiple organs four months after the initial infection, a study suggests.

The findings are a step towards unpicking the physical underpinnings and developing treatments for some of the strange and extensive symptoms experienced by people with “long Covid”, which is thought to affect more than 60,000 people in the UK. Fatigue, brain fog, breathlessness and pain are among the most frequently reported effects.

On Sunday, the NHS announced it would launch a network of more than 40 long Covid specialist clinics where doctors, nurses and therapists will assess patients’ physical and psychological symptoms.

The Coverscan study aims to assess the long-term impact of Covid-19 on organ health in around 500 “low-risk” individuals – those who are relatively young and without any major underlying health complaints – with ongoing Covid symptoms, through a combination of MRI scans, blood tests, physical measurements and online questionnaires.

Preliminary data from the first 200 patients to undergo screening suggests that almost 70% have impairments in one or more organs, including the heart, lungs, liver and pancreas, four months after their initial illness.

“The good news is that the impairment is mild, but even with a conservative lens, there is some impairment, and in 25% of people it affects two or more organs,” said Amitava Banerjee, a cardiologist and associate professor of clinical data science at University College London.

“This is of interest because we need to know if [the impairments] continue or improve – or if there is a subgroup of people who could get worse.”

It sounds similar to myalgic encephalomyelitis (CFS). Which is also caused by viral infections, amongst other things. Or 'yuppie 'flu' as it was known in the day.

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Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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Stirlingsays Flag 15 Nov 20 8.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Meanwhile back in Sweden

Nov 7 11 dead
Nov 8 08 dead
Nov 9 18 dead
Nov 10 16 dead
Nov 11 10 dead
Nov 12 00 dead
Nov 13 10 dead
Nov 14 00 dead

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 15 Nov 20 8.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I think people should look at Sweden again. Cases rising quite steeply for weeks. Deaths on the bottom. How come? What’s going on in society or reporting of Covid if it really is Covid or both?

Smaller communities of susceptible cultural enrichment?

Antibodies?

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2020 8.52pm)

 


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