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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 9.52am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Like No. Some might be aspirational, but be backed up by outline plans on how they can be achieved.
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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 19 Jun 24 10.02am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It’s not. It’s simply a description of the type of politician who tries to achieve power by offering policies that are popular with the public, even when they know they are either impractical, unaffordable, non deliverable or immoral. In our system we elect representatives whose task it is to use their time and contacts to deliver policies that answer our needs. Not simply to deliver what we want. We don’t choose delegates who just vote on our behalf. If we did then we could get rid of MPs and decide everything with online polls. We could bring back hanging. Castrate child abusers. Sink small boats. Remove speed limits. Close the BBC. Halve taxes. Abolish waiting lists. Retire at 30. Borrow unlimited money interest free. Etc etc. A populist proposes things along these lines. Just as Farage does. [/Sink small boats - 882 migrants yesterday; so yes, very popular with most of us on here!!
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jun 24 10.41am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Reform’s rise depends solely on Farage. He is Marmite man. Someone who is loved by a few but hated by more. There is a ceiling beyond which they cannot go and a very obvious use by date. Marmite doesn’t last for ever. As the country gets worse, people will look to people like Farage for change. The destructive policies of successive governments are responsible. Not Farage.
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Stirlingsays 19 Jun 24 10.59am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
As the country gets worse, people will look to people like Farage for change. The destructive policies of successive governments are responsible. Not Farage. Indeed. Like Trump, Farage is a reaction against the failures of neo/social liberalism.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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eaglesdare 19 Jun 24 11.48am | |
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Anyone who talks common sense like Farage or Trump are brandished with "Far right". If its Far right to be a concerned citizen and want common sense policies then thats exactly what I am. Most of us "far right" people just want to pay our taxes and be left alone to look after our families without government interfereance and ridiculous wokeness shoved down our throats everyday. #votereform Edited by eaglesdare (19 Jun 2024 11.48am)
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 19 Jun 24 11.52am | |
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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Jun 24 12.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Indeed. Like Trump, Farage is a reaction against the failures of neo/social liberalism. Thatcher was a response to the failure of post war Tory and Labur governments. We sat on our backsides smug because we had won the war so nothing needed to change. All the while investment, modern working practices and the move away from heavy industry was ignored. Eventually we became the sick man of Europe and we need Thatcher to slash and burn. If the Tories and Labour had done their job properly this would not have been necessary, economic reform as it happened in other western countries would have been gradual and far less painful.
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The Dolphin 19 Jun 24 1.26pm | |
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Useless though they are, I cannot fathom out why they don't defend themselves.
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eaglesdare 19 Jun 24 1.36pm | |
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"Muslim entrepreneur gives Reform biggest donation of campaign" Well that will upset a few on the left and the establishment.
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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 19 Jun 24 1.47pm | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
"Muslim entrepreneur gives Reform biggest donation of campaign" Well that will upset a few on the left and the establishment. Sounds similar to Texas a decade or so ago when naturalized Mexicans were complaining about Mexicans crossing the border illegally. It gives those that go through the proper process a bad name.
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steeleye20 Croydon 19 Jun 24 3.00pm | |
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'Tory government from 2010 to 2024 worse than any other in postwar history, says study by leading experts'. How good is the Conservative party’s record in government over the past 14 years? Thankfully, we now have what is as close as we’re going to get to the authoritative, official verdict. Sir Anthony Seldon, arguably Britain’s leading contemporary political historian, is publishing a collection of essays written by prominent academics and other experts and they have analysed the record of the Conservative government from 2010 to 2024, looking at what it has 'achieved' in every area of policy. It is called The Conservative Effect 2010-2014: 14 Wasted Years? and it is published by Cambridge University Press. And its conclusion is damning. It describes this as 'the worst government in postwar history'. Personally I think they are being generous. 'If they asked me, I could write a book'
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Spiderman Horsham 19 Jun 24 4.47pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
'Tory government from 2010 to 2024 worse than any other in postwar history, says study by leading experts'. How good is the Conservative party’s record in government over the past 14 years? Thankfully, we now have what is as close as we’re going to get to the authoritative, official verdict. Sir Anthony Seldon, arguably Britain’s leading contemporary political historian, is publishing a collection of essays written by prominent academics and other experts and they have analysed the record of the Conservative government from 2010 to 2024, looking at what it has 'achieved' in every area of policy. It is called The Conservative Effect 2010-2014: 14 Wasted Years? and it is published by Cambridge University Press. And its conclusion is damning. It describes this as 'the worst government in postwar history'. Personally I think they are being generous. 'If they asked me, I could write a book'
Will you be writing it whilst living within the EU? Oh wait, you are still here Edited by Spiderman (19 Jun 2024 4.47pm)
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