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Painter Flag Croydon 01 Aug 22 11.15am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

I don't really understand RLC on loan. He's supposed to be on £150k+ per week and Chelsea always get a loan fee.

Suppose you pay £3m loan fee and cover his wages, that's almost £11m for the season.

Take Gibbs-White as a hypothetical. You sign him for £30m and he's on £70k per week wages for 5 years. On the books, that costs the club £9.5m for the year.

Yes that is £9.5m per year for 5 years but at least you own the player and can sell him on. Loaning such an expensive player, especially one with his injury history, doesn't seem to fit with our model.

At least with Gallagher, his wages and loan fee would have been probably half of RLC.

Unless Chelsea are going to heavily subsidise his wages or put in clauses around injuries, neither of which I can really see happening, it just doesn't make sense to me.

How do you the details of Gallagher loan deal or potentially RLCs deal. You seem to know all the financial goings on.

 

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Croydon-Trucker Flag 01 Aug 22 11.16am Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

I don't really understand RLC on loan. He's supposed to be on £150k+ per week and Chelsea always get a loan fee.

Suppose you pay £3m loan fee and cover his wages, that's almost £11m for the season.

Take Gibbs-White as a hypothetical. You sign him for £30m and he's on £70k per week wages for 5 years. On the books, that costs the club £9.5m for the year.

Yes that is £9.5m per year for 5 years but at least you own the player and can sell him on. Loaning such an expensive player, especially one with his injury history, doesn't seem to fit with our model.

At least with Gallagher, his wages and loan fee would have been probably half of RLC.

Unless Chelsea are going to heavily subsidise his wages or put in clauses around injuries, neither of which I can really see happening, it just doesn't make sense to me.

That is a very good way of looking at it and it makes finacial sense , 11 mill for a player for a season that will never be ours just no .

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Aug 22 11.19am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

At the weekend I was in conversation with a gentleman involved in the game and he was fulsome in praise for Sheff Utd's Sander Berge.

His comments included mention of Berge's ability to drive with the ball, his running power and the fact that he can dictate the game and break the line with passes.

Edited by Willo (01 Aug 2022 11.41am)

 

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mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 01 Aug 22 11.28am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

At the weekend I was in conversation with a gentleman involved in the game and he was fulsome in praise for Sheff Utd's Sander Berger.

His comments included mention of Berge's ability to drive with the ball, his running power and the fact that he can dictate the game and break the line with passes.

I'd welcome the arrival of Berger at Palace with no relish

 


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MrRobbo Flag Chaldon 01 Aug 22 11.46am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

I don't really understand RLC on loan. He's supposed to be on £150k+ per week and Chelsea always get a loan fee.

Suppose you pay £3m loan fee and cover his wages, that's almost £11m for the season.

Take Gibbs-White as a hypothetical. You sign him for £30m and he's on £70k per week wages for 5 years. On the books, that costs the club £9.5m for the year.

Yes that is £9.5m per year for 5 years but at least you own the player and can sell him on. Loaning such an expensive player, especially one with his injury history, doesn't seem to fit with our model.

At least with Gallagher, his wages and loan fee would have been probably half of RLC.

Unless Chelsea are going to heavily subsidise his wages or put in clauses around injuries, neither of which I can really see happening, it just doesn't make sense to me.

How else is the model going to work.

Clubs either WANT you to loan a player to help their development

or a club wants to loan a player that they likely couldn't afford/wouldn't come permanently and you pay a premium for it

Gallagher was a one in a 100 example, we cant keep comparing everything to him, if nothing else its getting boring

 

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samprior Flag Hamburg 01 Aug 22 3.50pm Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Ok so I hate the word gossip when it relates to transfers but I do think this is quite interesting...

So just got off the phone to my old man who works as a referee assessor for the FA. Today he was at Chelseas training ground in Cobham assessing the ref in a Chelsea U23s game.

He was sitting in the small stand they have at the main pitch there and a light skinned black lad (my old man said probably late teens/early 20s) sitting a few rows I front.

As the players were warming up one of the them came over and said to this lad 'Are you going to Palace then'... This lad said Yes.. He was then asked when does he go and he replied 'tomorrow'..

Now my Dad is useless with names but from the description I'm thinking it could possibly be Colwill??.. I guess we will see!!

Lots of news circling that Colwill will be used in the Cucurella to Chelsea deal. A pretty good deal for Brighton if true... the gits.

 

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est1905 Flag 01 Aug 22 4.28pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

If we could have the RLC from his previous loan with us, I'd take him in a heartbeat.

But I'm not sure that player is in there anymore.

Agree,
a Chelsea supporting mate tells me the general feeling amongst Chelsea fans is that his loan to Fulham actually did more harm than good. His self belief is gone, along with his best form.

 

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eritheagle Flag Erith 01 Aug 22 4.32pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Agree,
a Chelsea supporting mate tells me the general feeling amongst Chelsea fans is that his loan to Fulham actually did more harm than good. His self belief is gone, along with his best form.

He seemed to play quite well against us at Wembley.....unfortunately!

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Aug 22 6.04pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by eritheagle

He seemed to play quite well against us at Wembley.....unfortunately!

That was the only goal that RLC scored last season in 40 apps (All competitions).

 

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pssguy Flag 01 Aug 22 6.13pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

That was the only goal that RLC scored last season in 40 apps (All competitions).

But he had quite a few assists in the league. He started 13 PL games for them last year, only a couple shy of his total in all his other years there

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Aug 22 6.23pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

But he had quite a few assists in the league. He started 13 PL games for them last year, only a couple shy of his total in all his other years there

Gallagher with his energy and 'Pressing' was a vital cog for us.
RLC looks casual and laboured on occasions.We really do need someone with more energy in that vital 'Engine room'.
RLC never impressed me one iota when he was on loan at Fulham and it would be a retrograde step bringing him back to the club.

 

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MrRobbo Flag Chaldon 01 Aug 22 7.11pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Gallagher with his energy and 'Pressing' was a vital cog for us.
RLC looks casual and laboured on occasions.We really do need someone with more energy in that vital 'Engine room'.
RLC never impressed me one iota when he was on loan at Fulham and it would be a retrograde step bringing him back to the club.

The problem we have is that Gallagher was a bit of a one off. Pressing and goals. Broadly you cant have both and need to pick either or.

I think we'll have a lot of games this season where we have the ball but are struggling to unlock, having someone like RLC to bring on for Eze or as well as Eze is a good thing in my book.

Personally I'd see if Chelsea will do a BOGOF with Gilmore and RLC. Gilmore has next to zero future at Chelsea he needs to get out.

 

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