Apologies for my part Becky.

I get a little tired of baseless insinuations, accusations and personal comments, so on occasion I feel the desire to retaliate.

Interesting, and positive, statement from Michael Vaughan, yesterday:-

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Well done Michael.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Then perhaps take responsibility for your ongoing conduct rather than point the finger at someone else.

Trying to goad mods into acting against someone... With your incessant insults, daily confrontations with multiple posters (not just Wisbech) and perpetual racism you are personally responsible for me and others deciding not to even post here anymore. Hell you are even partially responsible for a mod stepping down from their role because they can't be bothered to deal with such ridiculous behaviour.

There are posts and content on here over the past weeks alone, from multiple posters that have encouraged the ejection of non white groups from this country (law abiding citizens not illegals), posited the idea of not employing or work with those of specific races, used the worst slurs against marginalised groups, spoken in affirmative fashion about how effective the use of violence where politics doesn't achieve change. There is certainly also a concerted attempt to expose people to far right material.

The trouble is that this has overwhelmed the good intentions of the modding structure and is lost in the bickering. Little about any of this will change. It's an ongoing abuse of the platform that drives decent people away from the site, so if you're talking about rule breaking lets get it right. Please get a bit of perspective. Wisbech is a decent bloke with cancer knocking on 80 with relatively typical views. It's ridiculous that you clearly have such complete and utter hatred for the man.

You can only shake your head at this stuff.

Enjoy the game today lads.

Edited by BlueJay (27 Nov 2021 1.34pm)

When atmospheres become too polluted to reasonably accommodate typical, mainstream views that becomes the attack on free speech. There is of course though something to be said with operating on the basis of what site owners would reasonably want or knowingly accept on their platform (hence rules). People ought to understand that 'tolerance' is not only something that they (fail to) gift others, it is often something they routinely receive in return in some form even if they don't see it that way.

Any gleeful attempts to get people booted off (whoever is doing it) is pyrrhic victory territory, because when one person goes it increases the likelihood of the same happening to their opposites. Some might not see it that way if they think they 'rule the roost', or 'will be here longer than others' or whatever.. but ultimately the sum of peoples posts is there to see, and there's plenty here with little to be proud of .

Anyway, if anyone ever wants a natter I'll be in general, game threads, or the covid thread. What a heady mix. Take care all.

Edited by BlueJay (27 Nov 2021 2.53pm)

Where people are uncompromising, whatever they believe it is an ill fitting mix for people who prefer a more reasonable exchange of views. There is much talk of activists, it may help for people to realise when they are one.

You're right, people have a choice about posting or not. Realistically I don't think it would be helpful for anyone to be banned no matter how much they wind each other up. That was my point really. Anyway, enough from me.

I agree. Not really a left or right thing though really. It certainly happens in societies that you may view to be a better model, or seek to emulate and it happens in ours. I wonder how quick the freedom of speech love would dial down in a society that more reflected your racial interests (as in for all our faults China, Russia, Hungary etc don't seem all that hot on individual freedoms or voices in how they govern).

In any case, many proposed laws hijack both the sensibilities of the perceived left (cancel culture) and right attributes (groundless stop and search, often anti protest - well until covid) to contort into laws that impact all. They breeze past on account of side stepping the left and right Punch and Judy show that they rely on to sneak in authoritarian laws

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A decent note to toddle off on. Cheers.

Edited by BlueJay (27 Nov 2021 3.57pm)