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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 17 12.16am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Well, I agree that using this kind of stuff as scaremongering is daft with regard to marches. It's a little different when we are talking about her majesty's opposition. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Nov 2017 11.42pm) Republicans?
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Park Road 16 Nov 17 5.33am | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
I see you haven't read Jamie's post pinned to the top of General Talk either.I won't descend to your level. Your post,I would humbly submit, says somewhat more about you (and your knowledge or lack thereof) and demonstrates how little you know about racism and anti semitism in Poland in the present day. Or the war:look up Jedwabne. Or when the surviving Jews returned after the war and tried to reclaim their property stolen by locals:Look up kielce pogrom. Last weekend's march was organised by a committee of far right-wing groups, its sponsors included one faction, known by its Polish acronym, ONR, with radical fascist roots going back to the 1930s, and deeply influenced by Nazism; another, known as All-Polish Youth, has its own fascist history. Both were known before and during World War II for their violence against Jews, including massacres in the case of ONR. Meanwhile, Poland’s state television network, TVP, which is under the governing Law and Justice party’s control, described the event as a “great march of patriots” that drew mostly mainstream Poles, even as a demonstrator interviewed by TVP said he was on the march to “remove Jewry from power.”The irony being the pre-war Jewish population of 3 million is down to an estimated c 7,000 Yes,brave Poles fought in the RAF and the army in WW2 (I used to go out with the daughter of one!) and some good folk helped Jews in Poland in the wear and POles suffered awfully under the Nazis.But,that's no excuse for the pervasive anti-semitism there that along with other naff related traits has reared its ugly head as acceptable discourse since the ironically named Law and Justice party came to power.A University of Warsaw study released earlier this year concluded that 56 percent said they would not accept a Jewish person in their family.Very noble and anti extremism of all sorts..not. Got any Polish family to base your "knowledge" on? I have... Are you thinking you will be banged to rights for something naughty in the near future that you will need a lawyer for,then? Hope its not connected to the FLA. Edited by legaleagle (15 Nov 2017 7.57pm) Firstly,I asked you a question because of your Polish connection and I'll again. Legaleagle MOVISZ PO POLSKU? TAk O NIE. The earliest record of a Jew in Poland is in a letter written in 977C.E.from the Pope instructing the king not to be overly friendly to a Jew. The first ghetto in Poland was created in the fourteenth century when Jews from Spain and Western Europe immigrated and asked for a sector of the city where they could live according to their religion and laws. The request was granted by King Kazimierz III. Until the beginning of the seventeenth century, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was tolerant toward the Jews and even invited them to come and settle. The relationship deteriorated as the fortunes of the Commonwealth declined, and there was a massive immigration of Jews from Germany, and later, from Lithuania and Russia. Relations were exacerbated by the Russian czarist policy of discrimination against Jews and stirring up ethnic antagonisms. The first organized anti-semiticpogrom was in 1881. The last one was on 4 July 1946 in Kielce when forty-two Jews were killed. During World War II, the Soviet Union deported people to central Asia and the Nazis operated death camps. Of the more than three million Jews in Poland in 1939, ninety thousand were left by the end of the war. The communist government-sponsored anti-semitic campaign of 1968–1969 drove out most of those who remained. Prior to 1989, the Communist government at times denied the very existence of national minorities in Poland. Edited by Park Road (16 Nov 2017 5.53am) Edited by Park Road (16 Nov 2017 5.53am)
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Park Road 16 Nov 17 6.26am | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
I based my view on TR himself.My view was based on TR's own Twitter post,which I quoted on this thread earlier this week. "I have had an amazing time with polish patriots marching against Islam . Polish pride is something else." Did you read it? Funny that his opposition to all kinds of extremism doesn't seem to include the following openly on display at the march: One banner read: “White Europe of brotherly nations,” while upon another was written: “Pray for Islamic Holocaust.” Chants of “pure Poland, white Poland” and "refugees get out” were reported and others waved flags adorned with far-right insignia.One participant told the state-run TVP he was marching “to remove Jewry from power.” Opposition to extremism in action indeed. Funny your opposition to communist anti Semitism is non existent
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Park Road 16 Nov 17 7.25am | |
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The FLA has repeatedly stated that its against all forms of extremism. While Europe was experiencing religious wars Poland (as a multinational country) also had many conflicts, wars but they were never provoked by religion. The Poles have lost their country and been persecuted as a people up until 1989. People who spout extremist views on this thread is everything we are against. The inability to see past their own blinkered thought process and constantly posting vile invalidations about certain societies without even recognizing any counter arguments are the people society should fear the most.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 17 8.17am | |
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Originally posted by Park Road
The FLA has repeatedly stated that its against all forms of extremism. While Europe was experiencing religious wars Poland (as a multinational country) also had many conflicts, wars but they were never provoked by religion. The Poles have lost their country and been persecuted as a people up until 1989. People who spout extremist views on this thread is everything we are against. The inability to see past their own blinkered thought process and constantly posting vile invalidations about certain societies without even recognizing any counter arguments are the people society should fear the most. Is that why you said Tommy Robinson is misunderstood to avail him of your charge.
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Park Road 16 Nov 17 8.33am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Is that why you said Tommy Robinson is misunderstood to avail him of your charge. Nick you accused me of stalking you yet you keep replying to my post weird behaviour to say the least. Normally, people tend to stay away from stalkers Can you be so nice as to point out when and where I said that. If you can I'll hold my hands up and say fair cop. So prove that I said that or make like a tree and leave. You'll probably appreciate my childish comic end to my thread its more down your street
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 17 8.37am | |
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Originally posted by Park Road
Nick you accused me of stalking you yet you keep replying to my post weird behaviour to say the least. Normally, people tend to stay away from stalkers Can you be so nice as to point out when and where I said that. If you can I'll hold my hands up and say fair cop. So prove that I said that or make like a tree and leave. You'll probably appreciate my childish comic end to my thread its more down your street my apologies, it was Rubin. Dunno what the rest of your post is about though.
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Park Road 16 Nov 17 8.41am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
my apologies, it was Rubin. Dunno what the rest of your post is about though.
I also understand why you dunno what the rest of the post is about.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 16 Nov 17 8.50am | |
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All this stuff by the left is a well worn tactic of lumping in on anything they do not own and tarring it it as the coming of the 4th Reich. It is like those speaking dolls - they should make some dressed in Corbyn caps with their arm raised in a clenched-fist salute and when you press their nether regions, they would shout 'fascist' or 'racist'. When do we want them? By Christmas!
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Park Road 16 Nov 17 9.17am | |
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Originally posted by Park Road See what I mean about childish tactics Danny Choo Choo. Stalker #3
Remember this Nick you called me stalker#3. Now do you understand the rest of my posting? Edited by Park Road (16 Nov 2017 9.19am)
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 17 9.38am | |
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Originally posted by Park Road
Originally posted by Park Road See what I mean about childish tactics Danny Choo Choo. Stalker #3
Remember this Nick you called me stalker#3. Now do you understand the rest of my posting? Edited by Park Road (16 Nov 2017 9.19am) I don't think you understand the new world order according to Jamie Martin.
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Park Road 16 Nov 17 10.00am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I don't think you understand the new world order according to Jamie Martin. The question was " now do you understand the rest of my posting?" If I broke any rules I'm sure Jamie will pull me up on it. Edited by Park Road (16 Nov 2017 10.01am)
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