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TheJudge 20 Aug 15 4.01pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 3.28pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 3.12pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 2.56pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 2.43pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 1.41pm Quote fed up eagle at 20 Aug 2015 1.08pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm Interesting. Clearly some people are "racist" through hatred and ignorance however it begs the question, how much or what should one tolerate in order not to be branded "racist". The epithet has become so widely used as an arguing tool that it has become almost meaningless. Do we accept all the potential ills of immigration, for example, just to appear "enlightened" in that regard or do we reserve the right to say that the culture or religion of a particular group is repugnant to us. Free speech is definitely being eroded in that area for political reasons, which is nothing new in itself, but it does lead to situations where we have to endure things like the mistreatment of women for example. This is a situation where we are aghast at abuse of rights of one group, by our standards, but are clearly at odds with the so called religious rights of others. I am of the opinion that we must uphold our standards at the expense of others because without them we are nothing. Those seeking to impose their culture and religious dogma on us will thing nothing of corrupting our society, in fact some will positively encourage it. Bigotry and hatred are ugly things and if we see those things in ourselves we must purge them, however, we must not be afraid to stand up for our belief system whilst at the same time analysing ourselves to be sure that our motives are good ones. Unfortunately some peoples belief systems are so indoctrinated by religious dogma or hatred that they become a danger to all around them. We have come a long way in Britain to protect the rights of individuals and this must not be allowed to be derailed in the name of political correctness driven by economics. Yep, the word 'racist' has been totally devalued by smug gits who use it to win arguments on subjects such as controlled immigration, multiculturalism etc. It really is a word that has no meaning anymore. Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist. True. But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do. It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil. It is a two ways street. Some people, is the important word here. Some people are just self serving. Of course plenty of people will write of a valid complaint on the basis that someone's or a group has been accused of being racist - or will go to surprising lengths to defend why something that might be racist might be justified. Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell. For some reason however, some people are deluded enough to think that they occupy the moral high ground by constantly defending the rights of others while neglecting the rights of their own. It is a strange phenomenon. Do other so called races sit around fretting about white peoples problems I wonder. I think you know the answer. This white man's guilt thing is getting very old very quickly. Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm) White peoples problems, are they like first world problems? I don't really see my own, and others. Just people. Bloody humanitarians taking our jobs. If the attitude you claim to hold was a universal trait then the World would be all rainbows and fluffy stuff, but It isn't like that in reality is it.
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Interesting.

Clearly some people are "racist" through hatred and ignorance however it begs the question, how much or what should one tolerate in order not to be branded "racist".
The epithet has become so widely used as an arguing tool that it has become almost meaningless.
Do we accept all the potential ills of immigration, for example, just to appear "enlightened" in that regard or do we reserve the right to say that the culture or religion of a particular group is repugnant to us.

Free speech is definitely being eroded in that area for political reasons, which is nothing new in itself, but it does lead to situations where we have to endure things like the mistreatment of women for example. This is a situation where we are aghast at abuse of rights of one group, by our standards, but are clearly at odds with the so called religious rights of others.
I am of the opinion that we must uphold our standards at the expense of others because without them we are nothing. Those seeking to impose their culture and religious dogma on us will thing nothing of corrupting our society, in fact some will positively encourage it.

Bigotry and hatred are ugly things and if we see those things in ourselves we must purge them, however,
we must not be afraid to stand up for our belief system whilst at the same time analysing ourselves to be sure that our motives are good ones. Unfortunately some peoples belief systems are so indoctrinated by religious dogma or hatred that they become a danger to all around them. We have come a long way in Britain to protect the rights of individuals and this must not be allowed to be derailed in the name of political correctness driven by economics.

Yep, the word 'racist' has been totally devalued by smug gits who use it to win arguments on subjects such as controlled immigration, multiculturalism etc. It really is a word that has no meaning anymore.

Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist.

True.

But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do.

It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil.

It is a two ways street.

Some people, is the important word here. Some people are just self serving. Of course plenty of people will write of a valid complaint on the basis that someone's or a group has been accused of being racist - or will go to surprising lengths to defend why something that might be racist might be justified.

Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell.

For some reason however, some people are deluded enough to think that they occupy the moral high ground by constantly defending the rights of others while neglecting the rights of their own. It is a strange phenomenon.
Do other so called races sit around fretting about white peoples problems I wonder.

I think you know the answer. This white man's guilt thing is getting very old very quickly.

Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm)

White peoples problems, are they like first world problems?

I don't really see my own, and others. Just people.

Bloody humanitarians taking our jobs.

If the attitude you claim to hold was a universal trait then the World would be all rainbows and fluffy stuff, but It isn't like that in reality is it.

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Interesting.

Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist.

True.

But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do.

It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil.

It is a two ways street.

Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell.

Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm)

White peoples problems, are they like first world problems?

I don't really see my own, and others. Just people.

Bloody humanitarians taking our jobs.

If the attitude you claim to hold was a universal trait then the World would be all rainbows and fluffy stuff, but It isn't like that in reality is it.

Actually on reflection I do see my own and others, its just that my own isn't defined by race, gender, sexuality, religion etc. They're just my people, and everyone else is everyone else.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 20 Aug 15 4.33pm
I love the fact that jammie and a few others have said it was probably nothing to do with race (Rotherham), even though the employee's were QUOTED as saying they didnt won't to whistle blow through FEAR of being labelled a racist. But hey I suppose if you know then you know eh. (typical lefty response in my book,, why let facts or witness statements get in the way of dismissing a factual report in to institutional Political Correctness coming before children's lives.) Oh and by the way Jamie there wasn't a massive pedophile ring in Rotherham ran by us Honkeys exploiting young pakistani women, and that my friend is where your hole response proves to be, nothing other than your own liberal meanderings. Sorry fella but thats how I see it. Edited by dannyh (20 Aug 2015 4.39pm) "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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I love the fact that jammie and a few others have said it was probably nothing to do with race (Rotherham), even though the employee's were QUOTED as saying they didnt won't to whistle blow through FEAR of being labelled a racist.

But hey I suppose if you know then you know eh.

(typical lefty response in my book,, why let facts or witness statements get in the way of dismissing a factual report in to institutional Political Correctness coming before children's lives.)

Oh and by the way Jamie there wasn't a massive pedophile ring in Rotherham ran by us Honkeys exploiting young pakistani women, and that my friend is where your hole response proves to be, nothing other than your own liberal meanderings.

Sorry fella but thats how I see it.

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"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 20 Aug 15 4.41pm
Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 2.40pm Quote dannyh at 20 Aug 2015 2.12pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 1.41pm Quote fed up eagle at 20 Aug 2015 1.08pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm Interesting. Clearly some people are "racist" through hatred and ignorance however it begs the question, how much or what should one tolerate in order not to be branded "racist". The epithet has become so widely used as an arguing tool that it has become almost meaningless. Do we accept all the potential ills of immigration, for example, just to appear "enlightened" in that regard or do we reserve the right to say that the culture or religion of a particular group is repugnant to us. Free speech is definitely being eroded in that area for political reasons, which is nothing new in itself, but it does lead to situations where we have to endure things like the mistreatment of women for example. This is a situation where we are aghast at abuse of rights of one group, by our standards, but are clearly at odds with the so called religious rights of others. I am of the opinion that we must uphold our standards at the expense of others because without them we are nothing. Those seeking to impose their culture and religious dogma on us will thing nothing of corrupting our society, in fact some will positively encourage it. Bigotry and hatred are ugly things and if we see those things in ourselves we must purge them, however, we must not be afraid to stand up for our belief system whilst at the same time analysing ourselves to be sure that our motives are good ones. Unfortunately some peoples belief systems are so indoctrinated by religious dogma or hatred that they become a danger to all around them. We have come a long way in Britain to protect the rights of individuals and this must not be allowed to be derailed in the name of political correctness driven by economics. Yep, the word 'racist' has been totally devalued by smug gits who use it to win arguments on subjects such as controlled immigration, multiculturalism etc. It really is a word that has no meaning anymore. Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist. And the term people throw about when they can't win an argument on anything, anything at all to do with politics, religion, immigration, capitalism etc etc. What if you hated the melchester rovers captain? Would that make you a Roy Racist? No Nick it would make you a middle aged teacher who still reads kids football comics. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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Interesting.

Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist.

And the term people throw about when they can't win an argument on anything, anything at all to do with politics, religion, immigration, capitalism etc etc.

What if you hated the melchester rovers captain? Would that make you a Roy Racist?

No Nick it would make you a middle aged teacher who still reads kids football comics.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 20 Aug 15 4.57pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 3.28pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 3.12pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 2.56pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 2.43pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 1.41pm Quote fed up eagle at 20 Aug 2015 1.08pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm Interesting. Clearly some people are "racist" through hatred and ignorance however it begs the question, how much or what should one tolerate in order not to be branded "racist". The epithet has become so widely used as an arguing tool that it has become almost meaningless. Do we accept all the potential ills of immigration, for example, just to appear "enlightened" in that regard or do we reserve the right to say that the culture or religion of a particular group is repugnant to us. Free speech is definitely being eroded in that area for political reasons, which is nothing new in itself, but it does lead to situations where we have to endure things like the mistreatment of women for example. This is a situation where we are aghast at abuse of rights of one group, by our standards, but are clearly at odds with the so called religious rights of others. I am of the opinion that we must uphold our standards at the expense of others because without them we are nothing. Those seeking to impose their culture and religious dogma on us will thing nothing of corrupting our society, in fact some will positively encourage it. Bigotry and hatred are ugly things and if we see those things in ourselves we must purge them, however, we must not be afraid to stand up for our belief system whilst at the same time analysing ourselves to be sure that our motives are good ones. Unfortunately some peoples belief systems are so indoctrinated by religious dogma or hatred that they become a danger to all around them. We have come a long way in Britain to protect the rights of individuals and this must not be allowed to be derailed in the name of political correctness driven by economics. Yep, the word 'racist' has been totally devalued by smug gits who use it to win arguments on subjects such as controlled immigration, multiculturalism etc. It really is a word that has no meaning anymore. Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist. True. But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do. It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil. It is a two ways street. Some people, is the important word here. Some people are just self serving. Of course plenty of people will write of a valid complaint on the basis that someone's or a group has been accused of being racist - or will go to surprising lengths to defend why something that might be racist might be justified. Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell. For some reason however, some people are deluded enough to think that they occupy the moral high ground by constantly defending the rights of others while neglecting the rights of their own. It is a strange phenomenon. Do other so called races sit around fretting about white peoples problems I wonder. I think you know the answer. This white man's guilt thing is getting very old very quickly. Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm) White peoples problems, are they like first world problems? I don't really see my own, and others. Just people. Exactly. White men run the whole f*ing country. The political parties, the boardrooms of all major British companies. Everything. White men hardly need a support group do they? As for the ethnic angle in the Rotherham child abuse case, I don't remember the media going on about the child abuse that was rife amongst white males within the media, or white males** in the Catholic church. But come the Rotherham case, I don't remember a single article that didn't mention the fact that the men where of pakistani origin.
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Interesting.

Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist.

True.

But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do.

It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil.

It is a two ways street.

Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell.

Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm)

White peoples problems, are they like first world problems?

I don't really see my own, and others. Just people.

Exactly. White men run the whole f***ing country. The political parties, the boardrooms of all major British companies. Everything. White men hardly need a support group do they?

As for the ethnic angle in the Rotherham child abuse case, I don't remember the media going on about the child abuse that was rife amongst white males within the media, or white males in the Catholic church. But come the Rotherham case, I don't remember a single article that didn't mention the fact that the men where of pakistani origin.

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TheJudge 20 Aug 15 5.09pm
Quote the_mcanuff_stuff at 20 Aug 2015 4.57pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 3.28pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 3.12pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 2.56pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 2.43pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 1.41pm Quote fed up eagle at 20 Aug 2015 1.08pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm Interesting. Clearly some people are "racist" through hatred and ignorance however it begs the question, how much or what should one tolerate in order not to be branded "racist". The epithet has become so widely used as an arguing tool that it has become almost meaningless. Do we accept all the potential ills of immigration, for example, just to appear "enlightened" in that regard or do we reserve the right to say that the culture or religion of a particular group is repugnant to us. Free speech is definitely being eroded in that area for political reasons, which is nothing new in itself, but it does lead to situations where we have to endure things like the mistreatment of women for example. This is a situation where we are aghast at abuse of rights of one group, by our standards, but are clearly at odds with the so called religious rights of others. I am of the opinion that we must uphold our standards at the expense of others because without them we are nothing. Those seeking to impose their culture and religious dogma on us will thing nothing of corrupting our society, in fact some will positively encourage it. Bigotry and hatred are ugly things and if we see those things in ourselves we must purge them, however, we must not be afraid to stand up for our belief system whilst at the same time analysing ourselves to be sure that our motives are good ones. Unfortunately some peoples belief systems are so indoctrinated by religious dogma or hatred that they become a danger to all around them. We have come a long way in Britain to protect the rights of individuals and this must not be allowed to be derailed in the name of political correctness driven by economics. Yep, the word 'racist' has been totally devalued by smug gits who use it to win arguments on subjects such as controlled immigration, multiculturalism etc. It really is a word that has no meaning anymore. Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist. True. But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do. It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil. It is a two ways street. Some people, is the important word here. Some people are just self serving. Of course plenty of people will write of a valid complaint on the basis that someone's or a group has been accused of being racist - or will go to surprising lengths to defend why something that might be racist might be justified. Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell. For some reason however, some people are deluded enough to think that they occupy the moral high ground by constantly defending the rights of others while neglecting the rights of their own. It is a strange phenomenon. Do other so called races sit around fretting about white peoples problems I wonder. I think you know the answer. This white man's guilt thing is getting very old very quickly. Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm) White peoples problems, are they like first world problems? I don't really see my own, and others. Just people. Exactly. White men run the whole fing country. The political parties, the boardrooms of all major British companies. Everything. White men hardly need a support group do they? As for the ethnic angle in the Rotherham child abuse case, I don't remember the media going on about the child abuse that was rife amongst white males* within the media, or white males in the Catholic church. But come the Rotherham case, I don't remember a single article that didn't mention the fact that the men where of pakistani origin. So, you think that a country which is at least 80% white should be run by a minority do you ? Until 50 years ago it was 99% white. When you or your parents move to another country you don't really expect to be running it in a few decades do you. I wonder if a group of white people moving to a predominantly black country would receive "support". Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 5.12pm)
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Interesting.

Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist.

True.

But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do.

It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil.

It is a two ways street.

Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell.

Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm)

White peoples problems, are they like first world problems?

I don't really see my own, and others. Just people.

Exactly. White men run the whole f***ing country. The political parties, the boardrooms of all major British companies. Everything. White men hardly need a support group do they?

So, you think that a country which is at least 80% white should be run by a minority do you ? Until 50 years ago it was 99% white.

When you or your parents move to another country you don't really expect to be running it in a few decades do you.
I wonder if a group of white people moving to a predominantly black country would receive "support".

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Interesting.

Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist.

And the term people throw about when they can't win an argument on anything, anything at all to do with politics, religion, immigration, capitalism etc etc.

What if you hated the melchester rovers captain? Would that make you a Roy Racist?

No Nick it would make you a middle aged teacher who still reads kids football comics.

Fair enough Tiger. You are the Victor. There will Beano more from me for a while.

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Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 5.09pm Quote the_mcanuff_stuff at 20 Aug 2015 4.57pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 3.28pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 3.12pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 2.56pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 2.43pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 1.41pm Quote fed up eagle at 20 Aug 2015 1.08pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm Interesting. Clearly some people are "racist" through hatred and ignorance however it begs the question, how much or what should one tolerate in order not to be branded "racist". The epithet has become so widely used as an arguing tool that it has become almost meaningless. Do we accept all the potential ills of immigration, for example, just to appear "enlightened" in that regard or do we reserve the right to say that the culture or religion of a particular group is repugnant to us. Free speech is definitely being eroded in that area for political reasons, which is nothing new in itself, but it does lead to situations where we have to endure things like the mistreatment of women for example. This is a situation where we are aghast at abuse of rights of one group, by our standards, but are clearly at odds with the so called religious rights of others. I am of the opinion that we must uphold our standards at the expense of others because without them we are nothing. Those seeking to impose their culture and religious dogma on us will thing nothing of corrupting our society, in fact some will positively encourage it. Bigotry and hatred are ugly things and if we see those things in ourselves we must purge them, however, we must not be afraid to stand up for our belief system whilst at the same time analysing ourselves to be sure that our motives are good ones. Unfortunately some peoples belief systems are so indoctrinated by religious dogma or hatred that they become a danger to all around them. We have come a long way in Britain to protect the rights of individuals and this must not be allowed to be derailed in the name of political correctness driven by economics. Yep, the word 'racist' has been totally devalued by smug gits who use it to win arguments on subjects such as controlled immigration, multiculturalism etc. It really is a word that has no meaning anymore. Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist. True. But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do. It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil. It is a two ways street. Some people, is the important word here. Some people are just self serving. Of course plenty of people will write of a valid complaint on the basis that someone's or a group has been accused of being racist - or will go to surprising lengths to defend why something that might be racist might be justified. Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell. For some reason however, some people are deluded enough to think that they occupy the moral high ground by constantly defending the rights of others while neglecting the rights of their own. It is a strange phenomenon. Do other so called races sit around fretting about white peoples problems I wonder. I think you know the answer. This white man's guilt thing is getting very old very quickly. Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm) White peoples problems, are they like first world problems? I don't really see my own, and others. Just people. Exactly. White men run the whole fing country. The political parties, the boardrooms of all major British companies. Everything. White men hardly need a support group do they? As for the ethnic angle in the Rotherham child abuse case, I don't remember the media going on about the child abuse that was rife amongst white males* within the media, or white males in the Catholic church. But come the Rotherham case, I don't remember a single article that didn't mention the fact that the men where of pakistani origin. So, you think that a country which is at least 80% white should be run by a minority do you ? Until 50 years ago it was 99% white. When you or your parents move to another country you don't really expect to be running it in a few decades do you. I wonder if a group of white people moving to a predominantly black country would receive "support". Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 5.12pm) I'm warming to you, Judge. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 20 Aug 15 5.24pm

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Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm

Interesting.

Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist.

True.

But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do.

It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil.

It is a two ways street.

Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell.

Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm)

White peoples problems, are they like first world problems?

I don't really see my own, and others. Just people.

Exactly. White men run the whole f***ing country. The political parties, the boardrooms of all major British companies. Everything. White men hardly need a support group do they?

So, you think that a country which is at least 80% white should be run by a minority do you ? Until 50 years ago it was 99% white.

Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 5.12pm)

I'm warming to you, Judge.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Quote the_mcanuff_stuff at 20 Aug 2015 4.57pm Exactly. White men run the whole f*ing country. The political parties, the boardrooms of all major British companies. Everything. White men hardly need a support group do they? As for the ethnic angle in the Rotherham child abuse case, I don't remember the media going on about the child abuse that was rife amongst white males within the media, or white males** in the Catholic church. But come the Rotherham case, I don't remember a single article that didn't mention the fact that the men where of pakistani origin. ? I can honestly say that people with views like this are a drag on this country. The fact that the Rotherham situation contained racism by pakistani/British men in their selection of girls definitely warranted reporting and discussion as it highlighted a problem that...I'm sorry but it has to be....A problem that a certain type of left wing sensibility allowed to happen. It has nothing to do with law abiding people of whatever background. Your concentration on white people is absolutely ridiculous. White people make up the vast majority of the poor in this country.......They make up the majority of most groups.....It's such a nonsense point to bring up. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote the_mcanuff_stuff at 20 Aug 2015 4.57pm

Exactly. White men run the whole f***ing country. The political parties, the boardrooms of all major British companies. Everything. White men hardly need a support group do they?

I can honestly say that people with views like this are a drag on this country.

The fact that the Rotherham situation contained racism by pakistani/British men in their selection of girls definitely warranted reporting and discussion as it highlighted a problem that...I'm sorry but it has to be....A problem that a certain type of left wing sensibility allowed to happen.

It has nothing to do with law abiding people of whatever background. Your concentration on white people is absolutely ridiculous.

White people make up the vast majority of the poor in this country.......They make up the majority of most groups.....It's such a nonsense point to bring up.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 20 Aug 15 5.53pm
Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 5.17pm Quote dannyh at 20 Aug 2015 4.41pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 2.40pm Quote dannyh at 20 Aug 2015 2.12pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 1.41pm Quote fed up eagle at 20 Aug 2015 1.08pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm Interesting. Clearly some people are "racist" through hatred and ignorance however it begs the question, how much or what should one tolerate in order not to be branded "racist". The epithet has become so widely used as an arguing tool that it has become almost meaningless. Do we accept all the potential ills of immigration, for example, just to appear "enlightened" in that regard or do we reserve the right to say that the culture or religion of a particular group is repugnant to us. Free speech is definitely being eroded in that area for political reasons, which is nothing new in itself, but it does lead to situations where we have to endure things like the mistreatment of women for example. This is a situation where we are aghast at abuse of rights of one group, by our standards, but are clearly at odds with the so called religious rights of others. I am of the opinion that we must uphold our standards at the expense of others because without them we are nothing. Those seeking to impose their culture and religious dogma on us will thing nothing of corrupting our society, in fact some will positively encourage it. Bigotry and hatred are ugly things and if we see those things in ourselves we must purge them, however, we must not be afraid to stand up for our belief system whilst at the same time analysing ourselves to be sure that our motives are good ones. Unfortunately some peoples belief systems are so indoctrinated by religious dogma or hatred that they become a danger to all around them. We have come a long way in Britain to protect the rights of individuals and this must not be allowed to be derailed in the name of political correctness driven by economics. Yep, the word 'racist' has been totally devalued by smug gits who use it to win arguments on subjects such as controlled immigration, multiculturalism etc. It really is a word that has no meaning anymore. Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist. And the term people throw about when they can't win an argument on anything, anything at all to do with politics, religion, immigration, capitalism etc etc. What if you hated the melchester rovers captain? Would that make you a Roy Racist? No Nick it would make you a middle aged teacher who still reads kids football comics. Fair enough Tiger. You are the Victor. There will Beano more from me for a while. Thanks for the reply buster,it was absolutely Wizzer, I'm off now to get my chips. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm

Interesting.

Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist.

And the term people throw about when they can't win an argument on anything, anything at all to do with politics, religion, immigration, capitalism etc etc.

What if you hated the melchester rovers captain? Would that make you a Roy Racist?

No Nick it would make you a middle aged teacher who still reads kids football comics.

Fair enough Tiger. You are the Victor. There will Beano more from me for a while.

Thanks for the reply buster,it was absolutely Wizzer, I'm off now to get my chips.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 20 Aug 15 5.56pm
Quote the_mcanuff_stuff at 20 Aug 2015 4.57pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 3.28pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 3.12pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 2.56pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 2.43pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 1.41pm Quote fed up eagle at 20 Aug 2015 1.08pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm Interesting. Clearly some people are "racist" through hatred and ignorance however it begs the question, how much or what should one tolerate in order not to be branded "racist". The epithet has become so widely used as an arguing tool that it has become almost meaningless. Do we accept all the potential ills of immigration, for example, just to appear "enlightened" in that regard or do we reserve the right to say that the culture or religion of a particular group is repugnant to us. Free speech is definitely being eroded in that area for political reasons, which is nothing new in itself, but it does lead to situations where we have to endure things like the mistreatment of women for example. This is a situation where we are aghast at abuse of rights of one group, by our standards, but are clearly at odds with the so called religious rights of others. I am of the opinion that we must uphold our standards at the expense of others because without them we are nothing. Those seeking to impose their culture and religious dogma on us will thing nothing of corrupting our society, in fact some will positively encourage it. Bigotry and hatred are ugly things and if we see those things in ourselves we must purge them, however, we must not be afraid to stand up for our belief system whilst at the same time analysing ourselves to be sure that our motives are good ones. Unfortunately some peoples belief systems are so indoctrinated by religious dogma or hatred that they become a danger to all around them. We have come a long way in Britain to protect the rights of individuals and this must not be allowed to be derailed in the name of political correctness driven by economics. Yep, the word 'racist' has been totally devalued by smug gits who use it to win arguments on subjects such as controlled immigration, multiculturalism etc. It really is a word that has no meaning anymore. Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist. True. But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do. It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil. It is a two ways street. Some people, is the important word here. Some people are just self serving. Of course plenty of people will write of a valid complaint on the basis that someone's or a group has been accused of being racist - or will go to surprising lengths to defend why something that might be racist might be justified. Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell. For some reason however, some people are deluded enough to think that they occupy the moral high ground by constantly defending the rights of others while neglecting the rights of their own. It is a strange phenomenon. Do other so called races sit around fretting about white peoples problems I wonder. I think you know the answer. This white man's guilt thing is getting very old very quickly. Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm) White peoples problems, are they like first world problems? I don't really see my own, and others. Just people. Exactly. White men run the whole f*ing country. The political parties, the boardrooms of all major British companies. Everything. White men hardly need a support group do they? As for the ethnic angle in the Rotherham child abuse case, I don't remember the media going on about the child abuse that was rife amongst white males within the media, or white males** in the Catholic church. But come the Rotherham case, I don't remember a single article that didn't mention the fact that the men where of pakistani origin. And if there was any proof needed to back up my claims of PC ness being an indoctrinated tool used to the opposite of the effect it was intended for this is it. Plus a mahoosive dollop of persecution complex (and utter sh1t). "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 20 Aug 15 5.56pm

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Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 3.12pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Aug 2015 2.56pm

Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 2.43pm

Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 1.41pm

Quote fed up eagle at 20 Aug 2015 1.08pm

Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm

Interesting.

Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist.

True.

But equally "racism" has become a weapon which allows people of every colour other that snow white to justify everything they say and do.

It seems that this aspect is ignored by those who wish to paint anyone with white skin who wishes to protect their way of life as evil.

It is a two ways street.

Everyone is self serving. That is it in a nutshell.

Edited by TheJudge (20 Aug 2015 3.13pm)

White peoples problems, are they like first world problems?

I don't really see my own, and others. Just people.

Exactly. White men run the whole f***ing country. The political parties, the boardrooms of all major British companies. Everything. White men hardly need a support group do they?

And if there was any proof needed to back up my claims of PC ness being an indoctrinated tool used to the opposite of the effect it was intended for this is it.

Plus a mahoosive dollop of persecution complex (and utter sh1t).

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 20 Aug 15 6.01pm
Quote dannyh at 20 Aug 2015 5.53pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 5.17pm Quote dannyh at 20 Aug 2015 4.41pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 2.40pm Quote dannyh at 20 Aug 2015 2.12pm Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 1.41pm Quote fed up eagle at 20 Aug 2015 1.08pm Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm Interesting. Clearly some people are "racist" through hatred and ignorance however it begs the question, how much or what should one tolerate in order not to be branded "racist". The epithet has become so widely used as an arguing tool that it has become almost meaningless. Do we accept all the potential ills of immigration, for example, just to appear "enlightened" in that regard or do we reserve the right to say that the culture or religion of a particular group is repugnant to us. Free speech is definitely being eroded in that area for political reasons, which is nothing new in itself, but it does lead to situations where we have to endure things like the mistreatment of women for example. This is a situation where we are aghast at abuse of rights of one group, by our standards, but are clearly at odds with the so called religious rights of others. I am of the opinion that we must uphold our standards at the expense of others because without them we are nothing. Those seeking to impose their culture and religious dogma on us will thing nothing of corrupting our society, in fact some will positively encourage it. Bigotry and hatred are ugly things and if we see those things in ourselves we must purge them, however, we must not be afraid to stand up for our belief system whilst at the same time analysing ourselves to be sure that our motives are good ones. Unfortunately some peoples belief systems are so indoctrinated by religious dogma or hatred that they become a danger to all around them. We have come a long way in Britain to protect the rights of individuals and this must not be allowed to be derailed in the name of political correctness driven by economics. Yep, the word 'racist' has been totally devalued by smug gits who use it to win arguments on subjects such as controlled immigration, multiculturalism etc. It really is a word that has no meaning anymore. Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist. And the term people throw about when they can't win an argument on anything, anything at all to do with politics, religion, immigration, capitalism etc etc. What if you hated the melchester rovers captain? Would that make you a Roy Racist? No Nick it would make you a middle aged teacher who still reads kids football comics. Fair enough Tiger. You are the Victor. There will Beano more from me for a while. Thanks for the reply buster,it was absolutely Wizzer, I'm off now to get my chips. Bunty. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Quote dannyh at 20 Aug 2015 2.12pm

Quote nickgusset at 20 Aug 2015 1.41pm

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Quote TheJudge at 20 Aug 2015 12.40pm

Interesting.

Which is the excuse SOME people use for being racist.

And the term people throw about when they can't win an argument on anything, anything at all to do with politics, religion, immigration, capitalism etc etc.

What if you hated the melchester rovers captain? Would that make you a Roy Racist?

No Nick it would make you a middle aged teacher who still reads kids football comics.

Fair enough Tiger. You are the Victor. There will Beano more from me for a while.

Thanks for the reply buster,it was absolutely Wizzer, I'm off now to get my chips.

Bunty.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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