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 HKOwen  Hong Kong 12 Nov 20 4.06am |
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I honestly think masks were talked down early in the piece for no reason other than there was such a global shortage that no government wanted to put in place a policy that was doomed to fail due to lack of masks. No one's fault in particular, every country had similar problem early one.Cost of masks became price gouging everywhere. Originally posted by Willo
At the beginning, the scientists in the UK kept asserting that there is little evidence that masks are effective and we were all permitted to enter supermarkets etc without having to wear one.We still had to socially distance in such establishments. I have a 'Crystal Palace' red and blue mask which I wear with pride!
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 12 Nov 20 4.09am |
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Do supermarkets drop social distancing rules for mask wearers? Have not heard that and check out lines still have distancing marks on floor as far as I know Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
And then when masks became compulsory supermarkets increased footfall by 200%. Just replaced the best measure of social distancing with masks. Another reason why people won’t do things. Edited by HKOwen (12 Nov 2020 4.09am)
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dannyboy1978  12 Nov 20 5.36am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
It’s started already. Be prepared to start losing your rights if you don’t have the vaccine. I won't pay for my freedoms. That is where I draw the line. I predict a riot.
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Sir James Hird  Mount Martha 12 Nov 20 7.21am |
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Hello, remember Oz, I mentioned early, no infections no deaths. Attributed to following a state and national guided lockdown and we still wear masks!
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| Eaglecoops CR3 12 Nov 20 7.45am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Do supermarkets drop social distancing rules for mask wearers? Have not heard that and check out lines still have distancing marks on floor as far as I know Edited by HKOwen (12 Nov 2020 4.09am) Effectively yes, because during lockdown the numbers allowed into stores were controlled and if too busy it was one out, one in. As soon as we came out of the first lockdown and everyone encouraged to wear face coverings (not masks) they allowed unfettered access to the stores. Yes there are markings on the floor but generally speaking social distancing has disappeared as it was originally intended.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 12 Nov 20 7.52am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I honestly think masks were talked down early in the piece for no reason other than there was such a global shortage that no government wanted to put in place a policy that was doomed to fail due to lack of masks. No one's fault in particular, every country had similar problem early one.Cost of masks became price gouging everywhere. What gets me is that if we are led by the science and by the experts in the country, how can they possibly go from a position of, “it provides little or no benefit” to, “it’s the single most important thing to do”, in the space of a couple of months? Also they have never told us to wear masks, it is face coverings and that is something different. As far as I know that guidance has not changed and yet everyone now refers to masks. The poor guidance and the mixed messages provided by those we are supposed to be relying on has been the only ever present during this pandemic.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Nov 20 8.54am |
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Originally posted by Sir James Hird
Hello, remember Oz, I mentioned early, no infections no deaths. Attributed to following a state and national guided lockdown and we still wear masks! I repeat again, Sweden had 10 deaths and we had 595. Destroyed economies, civil liberties and raised suicides and all other serious conditions for a flu without a vaccine whereas all previous generations took aliments on the chin. Keep drinking the kool aid.
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| DanH SW2 12 Nov 20 8.56am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I repeat again, Sweden had 10 deaths and we had 595. Destroyed economies, civil liberties and raised suicides and all other serious conditions for a flu without a vaccine whereas all previous generations took aliments on the chin. Keep drinking the kool aid. But you're completely ignoring the point about Swedes largely being respectful of the guidelines and doing what they have been asked to. Even with more stringent measures here people haven't been doing it. If we had followed Sweden's model the death and hospitalisation rate would be even further out of control then it already is.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Nov 20 9.01am |
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Originally posted by DanH
But you're completely ignoring the point about Swedes largely being respectful of the guidelines and doing what they have been asked to. Even with more stringent measures here people haven't been doing it. If we had followed Sweden's model the death and hospitalisation rate would be even further out of control then it already is. But you are ignoring the fact that Sweden hasn't been compelled and had to suffer the same unemployment and uprise in serious conditions, suicides and all the rest of it......they are happier as a result. Plus the fact that compliance has actually been good from most Europeans everywhere. Statistically the issue is more for those you wish to kneel to and others. I'll add the statement that government has treated the public to civil liberty sanctions more apt for a black death than a bad flu. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Nov 2020 9.05am)
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 12 Nov 20 10.37am |
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"Swedish Central Banker Says The Economy Is Weaker Than Official Data Show"
Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry. |
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Nov 20 10.40am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Do supermarkets drop social distancing rules for mask wearers? Have not heard that and check out lines still have distancing marks on floor as far as I know Edited by HKOwen (12 Nov 2020 4.09am) Unless you expect marshalls walking round you have an issue of 100 allowed in and then once masks are compulsory only 270 are allowed in. More people means standing in queues at tills longer anyway. I use a self scan gun as I shop so all my stuff is packed and I’m ready to get out almost as soon as I’ve got the last (frozen) item in the bag. Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Nov 2020 10.48am)
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| mars Folkestone 12 Nov 20 10.41am |
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Hope Lula hasn’t spread it to the squad 🙏
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