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europalace Europe 05 Jul 17 8.26pm | |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
More to do with the ECB's continual printing of money/buying assets (like it's going out of fashion!) to prop-up a failing system.
On the other hand the massive drop in international investment flows into the UK since June 2016 has been clearly reflected in Sterling's chronic weakness, the opposite scenario for the Euro. That of course should help UK exports but since the UK manufactures very little in relative terms, raw materials and basic components have to be imported, cancelling any currency weakness benefits out. Edited by europalace (05 Jul 2017 8.30pm)
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jul 17 8.33pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
So now if you love your country you are xenophobic and nationalistic,you see that is why the eu will ultimately fail,people who love their countries will not put up with that. I'd say xenophobia and nationalism exist outside of patriotism. If you are xenophobic or nationalistic I'd say it's unpatriotic because it makes it look to outsiders that we are all racist w***ers; many of us patriots do not fit that perception.
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jul 17 8.40pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I'd say xenophobia and nationalism exist outside of patriotism. If you are xenophobic or nationalistic I'd say it's unpatriotic because it makes it look to outsiders that we are all racist w***ers; many of us patriots do not fit that perception. Would you say we were xenophobic during WW2? Patriotism and nationalism are virtually the same thing in this context. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Jul 2017 10.16pm)
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legaleagle 05 Jul 17 8.43pm | |
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That good news just keeps on rolling in...though at least we can all be worse off in the knowledge some people will regardless be happy there may be less immigrants of a differing ethnicity around ...talk about not seeing the wood for the trees..
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Stirlingsays 05 Jul 17 9.02pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I'd say xenophobia and nationalism exist outside of patriotism. If you are xenophobic or nationalistic I'd say it's unpatriotic because it makes it look to outsiders that we are all racist w***ers; many of us patriots do not fit that perception. So you think that if you have any nationalism then that makes you a racist? I think you trying to separate patriotism from nationalism is like separating an orange skin from an orange.....It's still part of the orange. Patriotism is nationalism.
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Stirlingsays 05 Jul 17 9.03pm | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
That good news just keeps on rolling in...though at least we can all be worse off in the knowledge some people will regardless be happy there may be less immigrants of a differing ethnicity around ...talk about not seeing the wood for the trees..
So are you going to be seeing everything through the lens of Brexit now? Previously did you see everything negative as being a result of being in the EU? Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jul 2017 9.05pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jul 17 9.14pm | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
That good news just keeps on rolling in...though at least we can all be worse off in the knowledge some people will regardless be happy there may be less immigrants of a differing ethnicity around ...talk about not seeing the wood for the trees..
Because rail fares don't go up every year do they. Predictable blame Brexit nonsense.
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legaleagle 05 Jul 17 9.15pm | |
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I think you miss the point as explained in the link,Stirling (and Hrolf)..Inflation up as direct result of fall in value of sterling,which plainly has happened (at least in major part) as a result of the referendum outcome and talk of a hard brexit.Therefore,perfectly reasonable to relate the likely fare increases (and fall in standard of living) to Brexit. Edited by legaleagle (05 Jul 2017 9.17pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jul 17 9.20pm | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
I think you miss the point as explained in the link,Stirling (and Hrolf)..Inflation up as direct result of fall in value of sterling,which plainly has happened (at least in major part) as a result of the referendum outcome and talk of a hard brexit.Therefore,perfectly reasonable to relate the likely fare increases (and fall in standard of living) to Brexit. Edited by legaleagle (05 Jul 2017 9.17pm) Rail fares go up by similar amounts every year. You don't think this is just a good headline with someone putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 or the rail companies making their annual excuse. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Jul 2017 9.22pm)
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hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Jul 17 9.33pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I'd say xenophobia and nationalism exist outside of patriotism. If you are xenophobic or nationalistic I'd say it's unpatriotic because it makes it look to outsiders that we are all racist w***ers; many of us patriots do not fit that perception. 'outsiders' - bit racist that.
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legaleagle 05 Jul 17 9.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Rail fares go up by similar amounts every year. You don't think this is just a good headline with someone putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 or the rail companies making their annual excuse. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Jul 2017 9.22pm) Anything to ignore the fact that rail fare rises (based on inflation) will reduce living standards for many directly because of the exchange rate consequences of the vote to leave the EU and the bluster about a hard Brexit....
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legaleagle 05 Jul 17 9.56pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
'outsiders' - bit racist that. Hedgie, do you know what racism is? Cause if that's the way you see it,all those who think its a problem having people of a different ethnicity around could be characterised as racists....whereas they aren't (though similar in the way they discriminate about ethnicity to the way racists discriminate based on race)
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