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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 9.06pm
Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines If the individuals are inspired by a certain interpretation of a religious instruction, then there is your connection. They don't have to be an organised group with a chain of command as the perpetrators think they are carrying out their gods wishes. We will see about this latest incident. Illegal immigrants don't have to be committing the attacks - although several have - but they get absorbed into their similar culture areas and make it more difficult to weed out the genuine potential murderers. Meanwhile, in Albania, the Italians are opening a couple of processing centres for those immigrants arriving by sea. 3000 can be accommodated. Amazing what a right wing government can achieve... “If” is the right word. If it is then it makes it ever more important that we ensure that others don’t interpret things that way. Because by far most Muslims living here don’t. Rooting out and imprisoning clerics like Choudary so their hatred is removed is essential. So too, in my opinion, is closing every faith school and insisting every child only gets taught British values. That would cause a huge upset, not just from Muslims, but it needs to be done. It’s radical but much more realistic than expecting rioting to achieve anything. I have no issues with large scale processing centres. They won’t solve the problem but they will keep it in big places. Not so sure the local residents would be enthusiastic. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 9.06pm

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

If the individuals are inspired by a certain interpretation of a religious instruction, then there is your connection. They don't have to be an organised group with a chain of command as the perpetrators think they are carrying out their gods wishes. We will see about this latest incident.

Illegal immigrants don't have to be committing the attacks - although several have - but they get absorbed into their similar culture areas and make it more difficult to weed out the genuine potential murderers.

Meanwhile, in Albania, the Italians are opening a couple of processing centres for those immigrants arriving by sea. 3000 can be accommodated. Amazing what a right wing government can achieve...

“If” is the right word. If it is then it makes it ever more important that we ensure that others don’t interpret things that way. Because by far most Muslims living here don’t.

Rooting out and imprisoning clerics like Choudary so their hatred is removed is essential. So too, in my opinion, is closing every faith school and insisting every child only gets taught British values. That would cause a huge upset, not just from Muslims, but it needs to be done. It’s radical but much more realistic than expecting rioting to achieve anything.

I have no issues with large scale processing centres. They won’t solve the problem but they will keep it in big places. Not so sure the local residents would be enthusiastic.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 9.12pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Stoke has gone nuts. And Liverpool, Sunderland and other places. Wisbech....do you accept or deny that people will probably be murdered tonight ? on our streets ? cos my only question is will it be 3 people or 300 people. this terrifying and you are still in denial about it. Personally, i am horrified but not even slightly surprised. Edited by PalazioVecchio (03 Aug 2024 8.54pm) I am appalled but not terrified. I believe the police will be able to contain it and certainly hope so. Unfortunately there’s not a lot of rain forecasted. That would quickly put an end to this. Sleeping in parks with bottles of special brew for your pillow becomes uncomfortable if you are wet, no matter how drunk you are. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 9.12pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Stoke has gone nuts. And Liverpool, Sunderland and other places.

Wisbech....do you accept or deny that people will probably be murdered tonight ? on our streets ?

cos my only question is will it be 3 people or 300 people.

this terrifying and you are still in denial about it.

Personally, i am horrified but not even slightly surprised.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (03 Aug 2024 8.54pm)

I am appalled but not terrified. I believe the police will be able to contain it and certainly hope so.

Unfortunately there’s not a lot of rain forecasted. That would quickly put an end to this. Sleeping in parks with bottles of special brew for your pillow becomes uncomfortable if you are wet, no matter how drunk you are.

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Matov 03 Aug 24 9.14pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Wise words. Winter is coming....don't be left wearing a t-shirt. I am sure you are aware of the sentiment of 'Riding the Tiger' and I think that is the wisest course of action. The sheer and unbridled two-tier policing that is now clearly national policy is just there on display for anybody to see. As things stand, we cannot win on the streets. All the violence does is allow more and more draconian measures to be arrayed against us and in our disproportionate legal system, then that hits us far, far harder. As it is meant to. Suspect this will not resolve itself in my life-time but key now is about legacy. Along with a more immediate choice of how we live our lives. All I want people to do is think about their spending choices. Be it as simple as trying to only buy takeaways from European owned business to holidays in European countries with some exceptions but always with the consideration in mind around am I funding those who hate me? It's something everybody can do and for which there is no downside. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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03 Aug 24 9.14pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Wise words.

Winter is coming....don't be left wearing a t-shirt.

I am sure you are aware of the sentiment of 'Riding the Tiger' and I think that is the wisest course of action. The sheer and unbridled two-tier policing that is now clearly national policy is just there on display for anybody to see.

As things stand, we cannot win on the streets. All the violence does is allow more and more draconian measures to be arrayed against us and in our disproportionate legal system, then that hits us far, far harder. As it is meant to.

Suspect this will not resolve itself in my life-time but key now is about legacy. Along with a more immediate choice of how we live our lives.

All I want people to do is think about their spending choices. Be it as simple as trying to only buy takeaways from European owned business to holidays in European countries with some exceptions but always with the consideration in mind around am I funding those who hate me? It's something everybody can do and for which there is no downside.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 03 Aug 24 9.14pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Not as I, and as expect, most others will read it. One group was initiating violence. Another was responding to it. Hence they were “counter-protesting”. Without the first the second would not have been there. And without the murder of three little girls the 'first' wouldn't be happening. hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not as I, and as expect, most others will read it.

One group was initiating violence. Another was responding to it. Hence they were “counter-protesting”.

Without the first the second would not have been there.

And without the murder of three little girls the 'first' wouldn't be happening.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 03 Aug 24 9.20pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle “If” is the right word. If it is then it makes it ever more important that we ensure that others don’t interpret things that way. Because by far most Muslims living here don’t. Rooting out and imprisoning clerics like Choudary so their hatred is removed is essential. So too, in my opinion, is closing every faith school and insisting every child only gets taught British values. That would cause a huge upset, not just from Muslims, but it needs to be done. It’s radical but much more realistic than expecting rioting to achieve anything. I have no issues with large scale processing centres. They won’t solve the problem but they will keep it in big places. Not so sure the local residents would be enthusiastic. We are getting closer to some form of common ground! But excuse my tongue in cheek response to your last sentence; surely refugees are welcome everywhere! hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Sussex 03 Aug 24 9.20pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

“If” is the right word. If it is then it makes it ever more important that we ensure that others don’t interpret things that way. Because by far most Muslims living here don’t.

I have no issues with large scale processing centres. They won’t solve the problem but they will keep it in big places. Not so sure the local residents would be enthusiastic.

We are getting closer to some form of common ground! But excuse my tongue in cheek response to your last sentence; surely refugees are welcome everywhere!

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Stirlingsays 03 Aug 24 9.34pm
Originally posted by Matov I am sure you are aware of the sentiment of 'Riding the Tiger' and I think that is the wisest course of action. The sheer and unbridled two-tier policing that is now clearly national policy is just there on display for anybody to see. As things stand, we cannot win on the streets. All the violence does is allow more and more draconian measures to be arrayed against us and in our disproportionate legal system, then that hits us far, far harder. As it is meant to. Suspect this will not resolve itself in my life-time but key now is about legacy. Along with a more immediate choice of how we live our lives. All I want people to do is think about their spending choices. Be it as simple as trying to only buy takeaways from European owned business to holidays in European countries with some exceptions but always with the consideration in mind around am I funding those who hate me? It's something everybody can do and for which there is no downside. Gavin Boby on Twitter is a legal professional frequently successfully employed to stop Mosques at their planning stages. He has spoken about how the country eventually becomes sectarian and he sees the break down of law and order, he has it around the end of the decade. Likewise I don't see that as soon but longer term I don't see it being avoided either. But for me nothing really changes until a real welfare crash....people shouldn't be caught unprepared...most will be of course. What we are seeing now is just the outpourings of anger due to our children being butchered.....not large enough for serious damage to the system. The difference in the response by the authorities compared to past riots is just fanning the flames at the moment....but ultimately it will cool down....because....welfare. That isn't to say that we don't see more frequent attacks because I regard that as highly likely due to imported divisions. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Aug 2024 9.37pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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03 Aug 24 9.34pm

Originally posted by Matov

Suspect this will not resolve itself in my life-time but key now is about legacy. Along with a more immediate choice of how we live our lives.

Gavin Boby on Twitter is a legal professional frequently successfully employed to stop Mosques at their planning stages. He has spoken about how the country eventually becomes sectarian and he sees the break down of law and order, he has it around the end of the decade.

Likewise I don't see that as soon but longer term I don't see it being avoided either. But for me nothing really changes until a real welfare crash....people shouldn't be caught unprepared...most will be of course.

What we are seeing now is just the outpourings of anger due to our children being butchered.....not large enough for serious damage to the system.

The difference in the response by the authorities compared to past riots is just fanning the flames at the moment....but ultimately it will cool down....because....welfare.

That isn't to say that we don't see more frequent attacks because I regard that as highly likely due to imported divisions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Aug 2024 9.37pm)

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YT Oxford 03 Aug 24 9.51pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Not as I, and as expect, most others will read it. One group was initiating violence. Another was responding to it. Hence they were “counter-protesting”. Without the first the second would not have been there. Proof, if ever it was needed, that you talk out of your backside. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 03 Aug 24 9.51pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not as I, and as expect, most others will read it.

One group was initiating violence. Another was responding to it. Hence they were “counter-protesting”.

Without the first the second would not have been there.

Proof, if ever it was needed, that you talk out of your backside.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 10.12pm
Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines And without the murder of three little girls the 'first' wouldn't be happening. Not so. Not now, probably, but they would have found another excuse. Make no mistake. That’s all it is. An excuse. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 10.12pm

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

And without the murder of three little girls the 'first' wouldn't be happening.

Not so. Not now, probably, but they would have found another excuse.

Make no mistake. That’s all it is. An excuse.

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Teddy Eagle 03 Aug 24 10.24pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Not so. Not now, probably, but they would have found another excuse. Make no mistake. That’s all it is. An excuse. And you know this because...?
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Teddy Eagle

03 Aug 24 10.24pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not so. Not now, probably, but they would have found another excuse.

Make no mistake. That’s all it is. An excuse.

And you know this because...?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 10.25pm
Originally posted by YT Proof, if ever it was needed, that you talk out of your backside. Then all of the media, and every person with more than half a brain, are also “talking out of their backsides”. I think it is very unlikely and just further proof that the attitudes posted here by the right wing cohort are ridiculously unrealistic. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 10.25pm

Originally posted by YT

Proof, if ever it was needed, that you talk out of your backside.

Then all of the media, and every person with more than half a brain, are also “talking out of their backsides”.

I think it is very unlikely and just further proof that the attitudes posted here by the right wing cohort are ridiculously unrealistic.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 10.32pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle And you know this because...? No better than you don’t! That’s why there was “probably”. It’s an opinion. However that it’s an excuse is pretty obviously true. You can make a case that they were acting on misinformation but not excuse the actions. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 10.32pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And you know this because...?

No better than you don’t! That’s why there was “probably”.

It’s an opinion. However that it’s an excuse is pretty obviously true. You can make a case that they were acting on misinformation but not excuse the actions.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 10.37pm
Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines We are getting closer to some form of common ground! But excuse my tongue in cheek response to your last sentence; surely refugees are welcome everywhere! They certainly ought to be. Whether they are is quite a different matter. Anyone given refugee status must have a backstory that justifies it. Showing compassion for those in need is a British trait we should all be proud of. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 10.37pm

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

We are getting closer to some form of common ground! But excuse my tongue in cheek response to your last sentence; surely refugees are welcome everywhere!

They certainly ought to be. Whether they are is quite a different matter.

Anyone given refugee status must have a backstory that justifies it. Showing compassion for those in need is a British trait we should all be proud of.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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