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cryrst The garden of England 19 Jun 24 5.46am
Originally posted by Tunbridge Thank god we don't all listen to your narrow minded opinion then! Don’t you mean allah !
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The garden of England 19 Jun 24 5.46am

Originally posted by Tunbridge

Thank god we don't all listen to your narrow minded opinion then!

Don’t you mean allah !

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Spiderman Horsham 19 Jun 24 6.57am
Originally posted by Tunbridge Thank god we don't all listen to your narrow minded opinion then! He does have a point though, right? Or do you not think UK families should have equal or better rights?
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Spiderman

Horsham 19 Jun 24 6.57am

Originally posted by Tunbridge

Thank god we don't all listen to your narrow minded opinion then!

He does have a point though, right? Or do you not think UK families should have equal or better rights?

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 19 Jun 24 7.05am
Originally posted by Tunbridge Thank god we don't all listen to your narrow minded opinion then! Faced with demonstrable evidence the NPC screeches Reeeeeee The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Ouzo Dan

Behind you 19 Jun 24 7.05am

Originally posted by Tunbridge

Thank god we don't all listen to your narrow minded opinion then!

Faced with demonstrable evidence the NPC screeches Reeeeeee

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.06am
Originally posted by Badger11 And yet they are good Tory policies which shows how far left the Conservative Party has drifted if you think they are a joke. Reform is essentially a Thatcherite party. They’re not policies. They are an undeliverable wish list of headlines offered as bait. They are about as real as an artificial fly is to a trout. I could have sat down and written them in 10 minutes. Producing headlines is easy. Developing actual policies to deliver them is the hard part, and they don’t exist. Thatcher would never have issued such a document and anyone putting it in front of her would have been handbagged. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.06am

Originally posted by Badger11

And yet they are good Tory policies which shows how far left the Conservative Party has drifted if you think they are a joke.

Reform is essentially a Thatcherite party.

They’re not policies. They are an undeliverable wish list of headlines offered as bait. They are about as real as an artificial fly is to a trout. I could have sat down and written them in 10 minutes. Producing headlines is easy. Developing actual policies to deliver them is the hard part, and they don’t exist.

Thatcher would never have issued such a document and anyone putting it in front of her would have been handbagged.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.12am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Reform's rise represents the anger that people feel towards those with attitudes like yours. With the Tories controlled by centerist puppets and labour run by weirdos, there is only one place to go. Reform’s rise depends solely on Farage. He is Marmite man. Someone who is loved by a few but hated by more. There is a ceiling beyond which they cannot go and a very obvious use by date. Marmite doesn’t last for ever. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.12am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Reform's rise represents the anger that people feel towards those with attitudes like yours.

With the Tories controlled by centerist puppets and labour run by weirdos, there is only one place to go.

Reform’s rise depends solely on Farage. He is Marmite man. Someone who is loved by a few but hated by more. There is a ceiling beyond which they cannot go and a very obvious use by date. Marmite doesn’t last for ever.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.16am
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow TaxPolicy.Org have priced the proposed Reform tax cuts at costing £93bn. The manifesto has a total unfunded costs of at least £38bn, which is about 2x Liz Trusses. 2 Liz Tusses = 1 Nigel Farage! What an exchange rate! How many € is that worth? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.16am

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

TaxPolicy.Org have priced the proposed Reform tax cuts at costing £93bn.

The manifesto has a total unfunded costs of at least £38bn, which is about 2x Liz Trusses.

2 Liz Tusses = 1 Nigel Farage!

What an exchange rate!

How many € is that worth?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.27am
Originally posted by CharlesPaterson Every single member of my family is voting Reform, that's 17 votes for Farage and co. Most were lifelong Cons voters. Every single one of my family isn’t voting Reform. Nor are any of the bowling colleagues I asked last night., whose responses were so expletive laden they cannot be repeated here. That’s 16 in total. I feel pretty sure neither my MP nor Starmer will be either. So I am up to 18 already. Hard luck. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.27am

Originally posted by CharlesPaterson

Every single member of my family is voting Reform, that's 17 votes for Farage and co.

Most were lifelong Cons voters.

Every single one of my family isn’t voting Reform. Nor are any of the bowling colleagues I asked last night., whose responses were so expletive laden they cannot be repeated here. That’s 16 in total. I feel pretty sure neither my MP nor Starmer will be either. So I am up to 18 already. Hard luck.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.42am
Originally posted by YT Would someone please explain why 'populist' has become akin to a swear word? It’s not. It’s simply a description of the type of politician who tries to achieve power by offering policies that are popular with the public, even when they know they are either impractical, unaffordable, non deliverable or immoral. In our system we elect representatives whose task it is to use their time and contacts to deliver policies that answer our needs. Not simply to deliver what we want. We don’t choose delegates who just vote on our behalf. If we did then we could get rid of MPs and decide everything with online polls. We could bring back hanging. Castrate child abusers. Sink small boats. Remove speed limits. Close the BBC. Halve taxes. Abolish waiting lists. Retire at 30. Borrow unlimited money interest free. Etc etc. A populist proposes things along these lines. Just as Farage does. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.42am

Originally posted by YT

Would someone please explain why 'populist' has become akin to a swear word?

It’s not.

It’s simply a description of the type of politician who tries to achieve power by offering policies that are popular with the public, even when they know they are either impractical, unaffordable, non deliverable or immoral.

In our system we elect representatives whose task it is to use their time and contacts to deliver policies that answer our needs. Not simply to deliver what we want. We don’t choose delegates who just vote on our behalf. If we did then we could get rid of MPs and decide everything with online polls.

We could bring back hanging. Castrate child abusers. Sink small boats. Remove speed limits. Close the BBC. Halve taxes. Abolish waiting lists. Retire at 30. Borrow unlimited money interest free. Etc etc.

A populist proposes things along these lines. Just as Farage does.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.49am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger It's called propaganda. Right wing politicians who actually have policies that people like are 'populists'. It's a euphemism used by people who make policies to please banks, multi nationals and other assorted globalists rather than the people who actually voted for them. Proper politicians develop policies that deliver the outcomes that we need. That are achievable and not pipe dreams. Populists offer impractical headlines which have no chance of being delivered. They do so to gain power. Trump, Johnson, Farage and Le Pen being examples. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.49am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's called propaganda.

Right wing politicians who actually have policies that people like are 'populists'.

It's a euphemism used by people who make policies to please banks, multi nationals and other assorted globalists rather than the people who actually voted for them.

Proper politicians develop policies that deliver the outcomes that we need. That are achievable and not pipe dreams. Populists offer impractical headlines which have no chance of being delivered. They do so to gain power.

Trump, Johnson, Farage and Le Pen being examples.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 19 Jun 24 8.58am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Proper politicians develop policies that deliver the outcomes that we need. That are achievable and not pipe dreams. Populists offer impractical headlines which have no chance of being delivered. They do so to gain power. Trump, Johnson, Farage and Le Pen being examples. Like Decriminalise marijuana End wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East Support the study of reparations for slavery End pay discrimination Raise corporation tax Double the number of immigration judges and staff
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Teddy Eagle

19 Jun 24 8.58am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Trump, Johnson, Farage and Le Pen being examples.

Like
Decriminalise marijuana
End wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East
Support the study of reparations for slavery
End pay discrimination
Raise corporation tax
Double the number of immigration judges and staff

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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Jun 24 9.11am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It’s not. It’s simply a description of the type of politician who tries to achieve power by offering policies that are popular with the public, even when they know they are either impractical, unaffordable, non deliverable or immoral. In our system we elect representatives whose task it is to use their time and contacts to deliver policies that answer our needs. Not simply to deliver what we want. We don’t choose delegates who just vote on our behalf. If we did then we could get rid of MPs and decide everything with online polls. We could bring back hanging. Castrate child abusers. Sink small boats. Remove speed limits. Close the BBC. Halve taxes. Abolish waiting lists. Retire at 30. Borrow unlimited money interest free. Etc etc. A populist proposes things along these lines. Just as Farage does. Now your talking Wisbech, a proper Tory One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 19 Jun 24 9.11am