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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 28 Feb 22 6.07pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

This coming from Slovak news re the peace talks

For the War to stop

Putin is demanding Ukraine to de-militarise & wants sovereignty over the Crimean Peninsula.

Zelensky has demanded all Russian military leave Ukraine

Thing is if you're winning a war you dont need to negotiate.

This campaign is really not going well for Russia, the fact it takes about 3 hours to drive from the Belarussian border to Kyiv & the Russians are dumping Tanks due to lack of fuel after literal months and months of planning & moving things into position is Biden levels of Afghan exit, its horrifically bad how inept Russian logistics are.


Edited by Ouzo Dan (28 Feb 2022 6.09pm)

 


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thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 28 Feb 22 6.09pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

just wonder what his plan in all this actually is, notwithstanding he is bonkers bit, he does seem quite intelligent, he and his advisors/military must have known what would happen if they went into Ukraine, is it to be mr big cohones to the west and get the bit of Ukraine he wants, which if the above is true seems to be the case.

Edited by thegreatlardino (28 Feb 2022 6.10pm)

 


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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 28 Feb 22 6.15pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

just wonder what his plan in all this actually is, notwithstanding he is bonkers bit, he does seem quite intelligent, he and his advisors/military must have known what would happen if they went into Ukraine, is it to be mr big cohones to the west and get the bit of Ukraine he wants.

Russian Military doctrine is blitzkrieg, it involves heavy use of artillery & cyber warfare which is followed by tanks rushing the target, im gonna call it and say, the British government acting fast & giving/selling Ukraine N-LAW anti tank weapons completely transformed this War & has caught the Russian advance by surprise, they dont really have a counter for it.

Fair play to the Tories and our military on this one.

 


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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 28 Feb 22 6.28pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

This is the N-LAW
[Link]

You'll find most Russian tanks all use an auto loading carousel - effectively the shells travel around the turret of the tank before auto loading into the gun.
Its an efficient design removing the need for a human loader but also a bit s*** because you have shells rotating around the crew and should anything pierce the armour of the turret you're likely to ignite the shells inside causing the turret to decapitate and end up somewhere down the road.

Its why you see so many Russian tanks blown up with the turret missing

Carousel can be seen here
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thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 28 Feb 22 6.31pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

as far as I have picked up from the various reports they haven't done the full tank army bit, the odd pictures of single tanks on fire, most of the stuff seems to be light land rover type vehicles which are very vulnerable. Its almost like they don't want to commit to the full armoured column bit.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Feb 22 6.35pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


well that shows your level of ignorance. I am not, and have never been, a British citizen.

Probably fortuitous. We got lucky given the attitudes regularly on display.

 


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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 28 Feb 22 6.36pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

as far as I have picked up from the various reports they haven't done the full tank army bit, the odd pictures of single tanks on fire, most of the stuff seems to be light land rover type vehicles which are very vulnerable. Its almost like they don't want to commit to the full armoured column bit.

This is what I mean the N-Laws have completely changed the game, prior to this Ukraine had Anti Tank shells fired from your standard RPG launcher which are fine against softer targets like armoured cars/APC's but they bounce off Main Battle tanks.

I dont doubt Russia will push on & adapt but they are having a much harder time of it than expected.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (28 Feb 2022 7.42pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Feb 22 6.38pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I'm English from Britain!
At least brexit isn't being blamed, for once

Edited by cryrst (28 Feb 2022 5.39pm)

Still a British citizen though, however you spin it!

 


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Grumbles 28 Feb 22 6.46pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


well that shows your level of ignorance. I am not, and have never been, a British citizen.

out you, go son. Foreign males invading the country, eh?

 

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becky Flag over the moon 28 Feb 22 6.47pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

This coming from Slovak news re the peace talks

For the War to stop

Putin is demanding Ukraine to de-militarise & wants sovereignty over the Crimean Peninsula.

Zelensky has demanded all Russian military leave Ukraine

Thing is if you're winning a war you dont need to negotiate.

This campaign is really not going well for Russia, the fact it takes about 3 hours to drive from the Belarussian border to Kyiv & the Russians are dumping Tanks due to lack of fuel after literal months and months of planning & moving things into position is Biden levels of Afghan exit, its horrifically bad how inept Russian logistics are.


Edited by Ouzo Dan (28 Feb 2022 6.09pm)

Some little videos on Twitter of Ukrainian farmers towing them away with tractors for later use......

 


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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 28 Feb 22 7.16pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Some little videos on Twitter of Ukrainian farmers towing them away with tractors for later use......

I have seen a couple and did have a chuckle , I am honestly surprised I havent seen more videos of Babushka's hitting Russian soldiers with walking sticks.
The people out here are a different breed to the West, its a little bit wild east, a little Borat, a little of the old ways, some things make absolutely no sense then throw in a lot of heavy drinking, You'll get talking to a stranger and its not long before they pull out a bottle of home made Slivovice or Borovicka and two glasses magically appear out of nowhere, this happened to me last year whilst out picking mushrooms, The people here are so incredibly proud of who they are & of their countries despite mostly being poor as f***, this culture spans right across central/eastern Europe & why I call it home

 


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Grumbles 28 Feb 22 7.16pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

as far as I have picked up from the various reports they haven't done the full tank army bit, the odd pictures of single tanks on fire, most of the stuff seems to be light land rover type vehicles which are very vulnerable. Its almost like they don't want to commit to the full armoured column bit.

They have been fighting clever letting the armour through and killing the logistics train. Eventually the tanks stop due to lack of fuel. They can only go 200m miles before running out of fuel then the are sitting ducks.

 

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