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Stirlingsays 20 Jun 21 2.03am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I expect you would have preferred how it was before. Constant warfare is of course good for the soul. That's fear mongering. Besides, the argument was always about the type of EU.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 22 Jun 21 12.19pm | |
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Do you have any idea what "chlorinated chicken" actually is? Seems not
Originally posted by croydon proud
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HKOwen Hong Kong 22 Jun 21 12.26pm | |
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Some pesky facts What is chlorinated chicken? After the birds are slaughtered and the carcases eviscerated, they are examined and then undergo a “final washing procedure”, where chemicals are applied as a spray or wash on the processing line, “or as an addition to the water used to lower the carcase temperature”. Why is it used in the US? According to a report from the Adam Smith Institute (which argues in favour of allowing PRTs), “immersing poultry meat in chlorine dioxide solution of the strength used in the United States reduces prevalence of salmonella from 14% in controls to 2%. EU chicken samples typically have 15-20% salmonella.” So if you want your salmonella risk seven times higher than need be well you're in luck. In Asia there is a lot of poultry from the US sold as a premium product, more expensive than Brazil which is the main supplier of Asian markets. Despite this, the ignorance bandwagon for chlorinated chicken is full Basic supermarket chicken in the US is about the same is USD per lb as £ per lb in UK but that is pretty much true of everything in the US. Unlikely there would be a mass dumping of US chicken in the UK
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Orange1290 22 Jun 21 12.56pm | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Some pesky facts What is chlorinated chicken? After the birds are slaughtered and the carcases eviscerated, they are examined and then undergo a “final washing procedure”, where chemicals are applied as a spray or wash on the processing line, “or as an addition to the water used to lower the carcase temperature”. Why is it used in the US? According to a report from the Adam Smith Institute (which argues in favour of allowing PRTs), “immersing poultry meat in chlorine dioxide solution of the strength used in the United States reduces prevalence of salmonella from 14% in controls to 2%. EU chicken samples typically have 15-20% salmonella.” So if you want your salmonella risk seven times higher than need be well you're in luck. In Asia there is a lot of poultry from the US sold as a premium product, more expensive than Brazil which is the main supplier of Asian markets. Despite this, the ignorance bandwagon for chlorinated chicken is full Basic supermarket chicken in the US is about the same is USD per lb as £ per lb in UK but that is pretty much true of everything in the US. Unlikely there would be a mass dumping of US chicken in the UK
Just a few "pesky facts" for you to read: "The use of processed animal protein (PAP) such as meat and bone meal in poultry feeds is "Regarding carcass decontamination, only potable or clean water can be used in the EU to remove "The EU has set challenging requirements for the control of Salmonella, both through the National "In conclusion, it can be seen that many elements of the poultry meat supply chain are regulated
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steeleye20 Croydon 22 Jun 21 1.35pm | |
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It will be interesting to see how they disguise meat from the USA and Australia as there is far greater consumer awareness of the quite disgusting standards in their meat production. And the public will be thinking of transfer of infection from animals to humans, probably a cause of pandemics. If the public are aware then they will surely not buy. The new trade agreement between the UK and Australia does not retain the previous EU standards. But then Truss promised it would. Desperation for a trade deal with only downsides to it.
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steeleye20 Croydon 22 Jun 21 1.53pm | |
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'Australia’s Meat Consumption Hits Lowest For 25 Years, According To New Report' Worth noting USA and Australian consumers are in flight from their meat standards.
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Mapletree Croydon 22 Jun 21 2.00pm | |
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I suggest you now look at campylobacter. We have looked at this before, presumably people have short memories or were sitting at the back of the class. We don’t want to suffer US rates of food poisoning.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 22 Jun 21 2.17pm | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Some pesky facts What is chlorinated chicken? After the birds are slaughtered and the carcases eviscerated, they are examined and then undergo a “final washing procedure”, where chemicals are applied as a spray or wash on the processing line, “or as an addition to the water used to lower the carcase temperature”. Why is it used in the US? According to a report from the Adam Smith Institute (which argues in favour of allowing PRTs), “immersing poultry meat in chlorine dioxide solution of the strength used in the United States reduces prevalence of salmonella from 14% in controls to 2%. EU chicken samples typically have 15-20% salmonella.” So if you want your salmonella risk seven times higher than need be well you're in luck. In Asia there is a lot of poultry from the US sold as a premium product, more expensive than Brazil which is the main supplier of Asian markets. Despite this, the ignorance bandwagon for chlorinated chicken is full Basic supermarket chicken in the US is about the same is USD per lb as £ per lb in UK but that is pretty much true of everything in the US. Unlikely there would be a mass dumping of US chicken in the UK
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Badger11 Beckenham 22 Jun 21 3.31pm | |
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I thought they use it to wash prepared salads? Also the reason the EU banned it was dodgy. The EU report found nothing wrong with it however they said it was likely to lead to the lowering of hygiene standards in the slaughterhouse. In other words the workers might become lazy. Well that applies to any slaughterhouse anywhere that is why you need good inspection. My concern is the lack of consumer labelling I want to know where my meat has come from, its welfare whilst alive and how it was slaughtered. After that it's consumer choice.
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JRW2 Dulwich 22 Jun 21 5.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Orange1290
Just a few "pesky facts" for you to read: "The use of processed animal protein (PAP) such as meat and bone meal in poultry feeds is "Regarding carcass decontamination, only potable or clean water can be used in the EU to remove "The EU has set challenging requirements for the control of Salmonella, both through the National "In conclusion, it can be seen that many elements of the poultry meat supply chain are regulated There's no point in just trotting out facts unless you state - for the benefit of ignorant people like me - what conclusions you draw from those facts. You say meat and bone meal is allowed in chicken feed in America but not in the EU. What about it? You say over 40 chemicals and chemical mixtures are used as poultry carcass decontaminants in America but not in the EU. Again, what about it? You say a report found that eight years ago 13% of retail chicken samples in the US were infected by salmonella, compared with a recent finding of 7.5% in the EU. I don't think scientists would place much reliance on that "comparison". If you think that these "facts" mean that EU chicken is healthier, safer, tastier, or in any way superior to American, then say so. Otherwise, they're meaningless.
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Spiderman Horsham 22 Jun 21 5.10pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
'Australia’s Meat Consumption Hits Lowest For 25 Years, According To New Report' Worth noting USA and Australian consumers are in flight from their meat standards.
Or are they just coming to their senses and not eating meat?
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Orange1290 22 Jun 21 5.26pm | |
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Originally posted by JRW2
There's no point in just trotting out facts unless you state - for the benefit of ignorant people like me - what conclusions you draw from those facts. You say meat and bone meal is allowed in chicken feed in America but not in the EU. What about it? You say over 40 chemicals and chemical mixtures are used as poultry carcass decontaminants in America but not in the EU. Again, what about it? You say a report found that eight years ago 13% of retail chicken samples in the US were infected by salmonella, compared with a recent finding of 7.5% in the EU. I don't think scientists would place much reliance on that "comparison". If you think that these "facts" mean that EU chicken is healthier, safer, tastier, or in any way superior to American, then say so. Otherwise, they're meaningless. Best you stick with your KFC, make it a large bucket, don't forget to lick your fingers :-) Edited by Orange1290 (22 Jun 2021 5.27pm)
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