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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 11 Jan 17 2.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I stand corrected but I am not so ignorant to realise this is not just about safety, it is a politically motivated attack on the Government To some extent you are right but the constant running down of public services is politically motivated as well.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jan 17 2.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I stand corrected but I am not so ignorant to realise this is not just about safety, it is a politically motivated attack on the Government Your evidence for this is?
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Spiderman Horsham 11 Jan 17 4.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
To some extent you are right but the constant running down of public services is politically motivated as well. You don't have to tell me. I have just retired having spent 42 years in the public Sector!
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Spiderman Horsham 11 Jan 17 4.36pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Your evidence for this is? and your evidence it isn't is/
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 11 Jan 17 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
and your evidence it isn't is/ The fact that the union say it isn't. You can chose to believe them or not, but there is plenty of evidence it is about safety. And if you think average working people are going to forego days and days of much-needed pay over a prolonged period, just to make a point to the government then I think you're mad*.
Edited by OknotOK (11 Jan 2017 4.52pm)
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Spiderman Horsham 11 Jan 17 4.54pm | |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
The fact that the union say it isn't. You can chose to believe them or not, but there is plenty of evidence it is about safety. And if you think average working people are going to forego days and days of much-needed pay over a prolonged period, just to make a point to the government then I think you're mad. Oh that's it the must be true!! If you read this thread drivers are in the top 10% of earners in this country so a few days strike will not break the bank. I have been a Union member for over 40 years so please don't call me mad
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Helmet46 Croydon 11 Jan 17 5.51pm | |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
The fact that the union say it isn't. You can chose to believe them or not, but there is plenty of evidence it is about safety. And if you think average working people are going to forego days and days of much-needed pay over a prolonged period, just to make a point to the government then I think you're mad*.
Edited by OknotOK (11 Jan 2017 4.52pm) But, as I keep saying, they're not that worried about safety on strike days - when it's really dangerous. I'm surprised they don't refuse to drive trains on those days based upon their principles.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 11 Jan 17 5.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Helmet46
But, as I keep saying, they're not that worried about safety on strike days - when it's really dangerous. I'm surprised they don't refuse to drive trains on those days based upon their principles. Exactly. If they were that bothered about safety, they'd down tools and not return until the matter was resolved.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 11 Jan 17 6.06pm | |
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The overriding reason for the strike is that they want to protect their jobs. That's fair enough, but at least admit it. The 'safety issue' is clearly an attempt to make their cause appear more justified in the public mind. But imagine if a scheme was proposed that lost jobs but increased safety, would they support that? Would they f**k.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jan 17 6.08pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
The overriding reason for the strike is that they want to protect their jobs. That's fair enough, but at least admit it. The 'safety issue' is clearly an attempt to make their cause appear more justified in the public mind. But imagine if a scheme was proposed that lost jobs but increased safety, would they support that? Would they f**k. Protect jobs that are not going anyway?
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Spiderman Horsham 11 Jan 17 6.10pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
The overriding reason for the strike is that they want to protect their jobs. That's fair enough, but at least admit it. The 'safety issue' is clearly an attempt to make their cause appear more justified in the public mind. But imagine if a scheme was proposed that lost jobs but increased safety, would they support that? Would they f**k. But the conductors jobs are safe until 2020, in the present climate I don't think that is that bad.
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Spiderman Horsham 11 Jan 17 6.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Exactly. If they were that bothered about safety, they'd down tools and not return until the matter was resolved. Quite agree but then they would be losing copious amounts of money, which comes before safety (whatever our HOL colleagues claim).
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