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wordup  01 Nov 17 2.05pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by babylonjohn
Unfortunately I am seeing a worrying similarity between our efforts to improve the stadium and those to improve the team. A bit of cladding, a lick of paint, a quick fix to cover the cracks. A last minute rush job by an expensive PL master builder to stop us crumbling away. We need to invest in long term foundations if we are ever to improve on and off the pitch. You make a good point. It all comes off like half measures at the minute.
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| palace99 New Mills 01 Nov 17 2.16pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by Goldfiinger
I think we was told they was going to invest £50m in the stadium if the stadium hasn't been developed yet then my assumption would be they haven't hand the money over yet. Why should or would they until the time it's needed for the stadium. All very well to complain they could spend that money on players and then complain the stadiums not been done. When in all likelyhood the money will be available from them as and when the club is ready to do the work. But hey hoe I'm sure we can complain that it's not siting in our bank account making us interest and not there's. Or that we haven't spunked it on players. I'll be upset if we have spent it on players but my assumption is we haven't and that in all likelyhood they'll on the agreement and put the money in as and when it's need for the redevelopment... But in the meantime everyone can moan that in five years PL status the stadium hasn't been rebuilt. Spoilt children, if that's what you think. i don't think it's unfair to question the speed (or lack of it) of the stadium redevelopment as we were told 3 or 4 years ago that stadium redevelopment would be a priority. I don't believe that is moaning. Most people appreciate there are complex planning issues that have clearly slowed things down but if we have employed the architects who re-built Liverpool's main stand, as we were told, why haven't we even seen a paper design for the new stand? That's normally the first thing that gets produced. In terms of the £50m American money it is a fact that the money is not in CPFC's bank account. I'm not saying the money isn't ringfenced and sitting elsewhere but I mentioned it as someone suggested we have already spent it - we have not. The Arthur represents about 35% of our total capacity and it is a terrible customer experience. The concourse is just not fit for purpose and there are not enough toilets.
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 DutchEagleJohan  Vlissingen, Netherlands 01 Nov 17 3.59pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by palace99
i don't think it's unfair to question the speed (or lack of it) of the stadium redevelopment as we were told 3 or 4 years ago that stadium redevelopment would be a priority. I don't believe that is moaning. Most people appreciate there are complex planning issues that have clearly slowed things down but if we have employed the architects who re-built Liverpool's main stand, as we were told, why haven't we even seen a paper design for the new stand? That's normally the first thing that gets produced. In terms of the £50m American money it is a fact that the money is not in CPFC's bank account. I'm not saying the money isn't ringfenced and sitting elsewhere but I mentioned it as someone suggested we have already spent it - we have not. The Arthur represents about 35% of our total capacity and it is a terrible customer experience. The concourse is just not fit for purpose and there are not enough toilets. Not certain about your estimate but wholly agree with the sentiment. It's not the difficulty of food and drinks purchases that bothers me, in still seems difficult in new grounds with lots of space and food is near inedible anyway, but the ability to go to the toilet in a remotely civilized way should not be too much to ask in 2017. Edited by DutchEagleJohan (01 Nov 2017 3.59pm)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 01 Nov 17 4.15pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan
Not certain about your estimate but wholly agree with the sentiment. It's not the difficulty of food and drinks purchases that bothers me, in still seems difficult in new grounds with lots of space and food is near inedible anyway, but the ability to go to the toilet in a remotely civilized way should not be too much to ask in 2017. Edited by DutchEagleJohan (01 Nov 2017 3.59pm) You need emergency toilets after an overpriced burger.
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| DutchEagleJohan Vlissingen, Netherlands 01 Nov 17 5.19pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave 10 p for the burgers would be overpriced Rudi Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You need emergency toilets after an overpriced burger.
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| ex hibitionist Hastings 01 Nov 17 5.46pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by tillysosser
at the end of the day naming rights will mean jack diddaley squat to us fans. It doesnt even bother me in the slightest if they have the naming rights as it will always, AlWAYS be known to us as sel hurst park and never sainsburys stadium
my boy is 5 and he will be brought up knowing its called sel hurst and not sainsburys as well
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Nov 17 5.48pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by ex hibitionist
The "To Lose" stadium.
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 02 Nov 17 7.42am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by Lyons550
If you told people five years ago that you were either going to move house or build an extension and had then done nothing, other than a few cosmetic improvements, would you expect that anyone would take your intentions seriously? It's that phrase "looking" that's the problem; we need to stop looking and start doing. Other clubs manage to build new stadia and improve their infrastructure, even in the Championship and below, so the question remains, why after five years of PL cash, and the supposed US investment, can't we?
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| Lyons550 Shirley 02 Nov 17 9.12am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by bexleydave
If you told people five years ago that you were either going to move house or build an extension and had then done nothing, other than a few cosmetic improvements, would you expect that anyone would take your intentions seriously? It's that phrase "looking" that's the problem; we need to stop looking and start doing. Other clubs manage to build new stadia and improve their infrastructure, even in the Championship and below, so the question remains, why after five years of PL cash, and the supposed US investment, can't we?
Patience is a virtue...something a lot of our fans have forgotten all to often nowadays.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 02 Nov 17 9.35am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by babylonjohn
I thought the main stand had to be done (regardless of what league) on the grounds of health and safety. I think it's The Fire Safety Certificate, which I understood was on borrowed time some while back. I think the stand needs major refurbishment to comply, so it's going to be more cost-effective to wait until a new stand is built.
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| ex hibitionist Hastings 03 Nov 17 8.18pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by bexleydave
If you told people five years ago that you were either going to move house or build an extension and had then done nothing, other than a few cosmetic improvements, would you expect that anyone would take your intentions seriously? It's that phrase "looking" that's the problem; we need to stop looking and start doing. Other clubs manage to build new stadia and improve their infrastructure, even in the Championship and below, so the question remains, why after five years of PL cash, and the supposed US investment, can't we? Too bloody right, I had a relative who was always banging on about building an extension or upgrading this or that room , knocking down walls, new toilets, staircases etc, all mouth and no trousers, quite ridiculous, went on for years and now nobody takes him seriously, is that what you want Mr Parish, cod that's what will happen? Time to replace the elephant with a brand new extension, hallelujah I agree 100% with Bexleydave, but I will not be naming said relative any time soon.
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| silvertop Portishead 04 Nov 17 3.23pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave You know I try to be level headed in my views (save in response to some extreme populist views elsewhere) but here i am right behind the impatient brigade. We are told we have US money that has been ringfenced for infrastructure I.e. ground and training improvement. Raiding the coffers every winter should make no difference as it involves taking from a different coffer. One problem is a wholly unsympathetic council unlike say Liverpool where the population wholly supports anything to do with the big teams; the voters and ratepayers around the ground are less than 100% behind the club. Nevertheless, an application will either be accepted or rejected. If rejected, there may be grounds for appeal if the aplication had good merit. In fact, such an application may have to go to the SoS meaning it bypasses the council altogether. Either way, put a good application together and you will get consent. So where is the application? The other excuse is the problem with Sainsbury's. Then again, I thought the 2 ancient main stands were going to be developed first meaning we can continue with those improvements while thrashing out terms with Sainsbury's at our leisure. Am I missing something ?
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