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jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Apr 13 11.04pm
Quote Jimenez at 10 Apr 2013 10.59pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 Apr 2013 10.57pm Quote matt_himself at 10 Apr 2013 9.49pm Absolute bollocks. If you talk the talk, walk the walk. Both you and Nick have massively gone down in my estimation over the past few days. You are a middle class, John Lennon wannabe and Nick is an aspirational Tory-son. Rebel, boys, rebel. Both of you need to deal with your middle class guilt and get on who and what you really are. Edited by matt_himself (10 Apr 2013 9.51pm) One life, and socialism isn't about being poor, or what you do, its a bit more complex than that. End of the day, I have to eat, pay rent, bills etc just like everyone else. "Imagine" Its easy, if you try. That said, I'm no fan of the Beatles or Lennon, much more a Kinks man. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Absolute bollocks. If you talk the talk, walk the walk.

Both you and Nick have massively gone down in my estimation over the past few days. You are a middle class, John Lennon wannabe and Nick is an aspirational Tory-son. Rebel, boys, rebel.

Both of you need to deal with your middle class guilt and get on who and what you really are.

Edited by matt_himself (10 Apr 2013 9.51pm)

One life, and socialism isn't about being poor, or what you do, its a bit more complex than that. End of the day, I have to eat, pay rent, bills etc just like everyone else.

"Imagine"

Its easy, if you try.

That said, I'm no fan of the Beatles or Lennon, much more a Kinks man.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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SloveniaDave Tirana, Albania 10 Apr 13 11.04pm
Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.54pm Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 10.51pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 10.40pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.25pm Done well for the UK manufacturing and industry. Edited by nickgusset (10 Apr 2013 10.26pm) Stop blaming Thatcher for having to deal with reality. You seem to think that we should borrow from the market to keep people in jobs or tax everyone higher to keep them there. That's a failed economy right there. It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest... erm....do we really need to explain that one to you Nick? Well Iceland let their banks go under and invested in infrastructure. They're doing rather well. Almost all the money invested in icelandic banks was from non-nationals. In terms of growth, they have turned the corner but their recipe was to slash public spending, borrow enormously (from Norway) and take no responsibility for the bank debts to foreigners. If thats your solution, then fair play but seems pretty brutal for a socialist. Indiviual banks can, and have, gone to the wall in the UK too, but if you let the entire banking sector go to the wall, that is economic suicide. Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. (Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)
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Done well for the UK manufacturing and industry.

Edited by nickgusset (10 Apr 2013 10.26pm)

Stop blaming Thatcher for having to deal with reality.

You seem to think that we should borrow from the market to keep people in jobs or tax everyone higher to keep them there.

That's a failed economy right there.

It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest...

erm....do we really need to explain that one to you Nick?

Well Iceland let their banks go under and invested in infrastructure. They're doing rather well.

Almost all the money invested in icelandic banks was from non-nationals. In terms of growth, they have turned the corner but their recipe was to slash public spending, borrow enormously (from Norway) and take no responsibility for the bank debts to foreigners. If thats your solution, then fair play but seems pretty brutal for a socialist.

Indiviual banks can, and have, gone to the wall in the UK too, but if you let the entire banking sector go to the wall, that is economic suicide.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!

My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.

(Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 11.06pm
Quote Jimenez at 10 Apr 2013 10.58pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.51pm Quote Jimenez at 10 Apr 2013 10.48pm That's It I've made my mind up I'm moving to Chislehurst..... Can you bring me some Thatcher was a c* mugs. No I can't do that Nicky but I do have a great line in Cell Phone cases saying "Don't f* with The Chislehurst Massive" Don't forget to put 'innit blud' at the end.
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That's It I've made my mind up I'm moving to Chislehurst.....

Can you bring me some Thatcher was a c*** mugs.

No I can't do that Nicky but I do have a great line in Cell Phone cases saying "Don't f*** with The Chislehurst Massive"

Don't forget to put 'innit blud' at the end.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 11.11pm
Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.04pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.54pm Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 10.51pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 10.40pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.25pm Done well for the UK manufacturing and industry. Edited by nickgusset (10 Apr 2013 10.26pm) Stop blaming Thatcher for having to deal with reality. You seem to think that we should borrow from the market to keep people in jobs or tax everyone higher to keep them there. That's a failed economy right there. It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest... erm....do we really need to explain that one to you Nick? Well Iceland let their banks go under and invested in infrastructure. They're doing rather well. Almost all the money invested in icelandic banks was from non-nationals. In terms of growth, they have turned the corner but their recipe was to slash public spending, borrow enormously (from Norway) and take no responsibility for the bank debts to foreigners. If thats your solution, then fair play but seems pretty brutal for a socialist. Indiviual banks can, and have, gone to the wall in the UK too, but if you let the entire banking sector go to the wall, that is economic suicide. But it would be letting the market run it's course. It's what Maggie would have wanted. When are the banks going to pay us back? Would help with the deficit. As an aside, I found out that the UK owes the bank of England around £345bn. Why don't we just wipe that debt off?
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Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.54pm

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Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 10.40pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.25pm

Done well for the UK manufacturing and industry.

Edited by nickgusset (10 Apr 2013 10.26pm)

Stop blaming Thatcher for having to deal with reality.

You seem to think that we should borrow from the market to keep people in jobs or tax everyone higher to keep them there.

That's a failed economy right there.

It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest...

erm....do we really need to explain that one to you Nick?

Well Iceland let their banks go under and invested in infrastructure. They're doing rather well.

Indiviual banks can, and have, gone to the wall in the UK too, but if you let the entire banking sector go to the wall, that is economic suicide.

But it would be letting the market run it's course. It's what Maggie would have wanted.
When are the banks going to pay us back? Would help with the deficit.
As an aside, I found out that the UK owes the bank of England around £345bn. Why don't we just wipe that debt off?

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SloveniaDave Tirana, Albania 10 Apr 13 11.18pm
Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 11.11pm Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.04pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.54pm Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 10.51pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 10.40pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.25pm Done well for the UK manufacturing and industry. Edited by nickgusset (10 Apr 2013 10.26pm) Stop blaming Thatcher for having to deal with reality. You seem to think that we should borrow from the market to keep people in jobs or tax everyone higher to keep them there. That's a failed economy right there. It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest... erm....do we really need to explain that one to you Nick? Well Iceland let their banks go under and invested in infrastructure. They're doing rather well. Almost all the money invested in icelandic banks was from non-nationals. In terms of growth, they have turned the corner but their recipe was to slash public spending, borrow enormously (from Norway) and take no responsibility for the bank debts to foreigners. If thats your solution, then fair play but seems pretty brutal for a socialist. Indiviual banks can, and have, gone to the wall in the UK too, but if you let the entire banking sector go to the wall, that is economic suicide. But it would be letting the market run it's course. It's what Maggie would have wanted. When are the banks going to pay us back? Would help with the deficit. As an aside, I found out that the UK owes the bank of England around £345bn. Why don't we just wipe that debt off? I think you cracked it. And while they're at it, the BoE could print another 345 billion, give us each 5 million or so, and we'd all be millionaires. Problem solved! Edited by SloveniaDave (10 Apr 2013 11.18pm) Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. (Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)
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Tirana, Albania 10 Apr 13 11.18pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 11.11pm

Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.54pm

Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 10.51pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 10.40pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.25pm

Done well for the UK manufacturing and industry.

Edited by nickgusset (10 Apr 2013 10.26pm)

Stop blaming Thatcher for having to deal with reality.

You seem to think that we should borrow from the market to keep people in jobs or tax everyone higher to keep them there.

That's a failed economy right there.

It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest...

erm....do we really need to explain that one to you Nick?

Well Iceland let their banks go under and invested in infrastructure. They're doing rather well.

Indiviual banks can, and have, gone to the wall in the UK too, but if you let the entire banking sector go to the wall, that is economic suicide.

But it would be letting the market run it's course. It's what Maggie would have wanted.
When are the banks going to pay us back? Would help with the deficit.
As an aside, I found out that the UK owes the bank of England around £345bn. Why don't we just wipe that debt off?

I think you cracked it. And while they're at it, the BoE could print another 345 billion, give us each 5 million or so, and we'd all be millionaires. Problem solved!

Edited by SloveniaDave (10 Apr 2013 11.18pm)

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!

My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.

(Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 11.22pm
Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.18pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 11.11pm Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.04pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.54pm Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 10.51pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 10.40pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.25pm Done well for the UK manufacturing and industry. Edited by nickgusset (10 Apr 2013 10.26pm) Stop blaming Thatcher for having to deal with reality. You seem to think that we should borrow from the market to keep people in jobs or tax everyone higher to keep them there. That's a failed economy right there. It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest... erm....do we really need to explain that one to you Nick? Well Iceland let their banks go under and invested in infrastructure. They're doing rather well. Almost all the money invested in icelandic banks was from non-nationals. In terms of growth, they have turned the corner but their recipe was to slash public spending, borrow enormously (from Norway) and take no responsibility for the bank debts to foreigners. If thats your solution, then fair play but seems pretty brutal for a socialist. Indiviual banks can, and have, gone to the wall in the UK too, but if you let the entire banking sector go to the wall, that is economic suicide. But it would be letting the market run it's course. It's what Maggie would have wanted. When are the banks going to pay us back? Would help with the deficit. As an aside, I found out that the UK owes the bank of England around £345bn. Why don't we just wipe that debt off? I think you cracked it. And while they're at it, the BoE could print another 345 billion, give us each 5 million or so, and we'd all be millionaires. Problem solved! Edited by SloveniaDave (10 Apr 2013 11.18pm) Actually that's not a bad idea. Rather than bailing the banks out, give everyone in the UK a grand on the proviso they spend it in the shops within a month, that'll jig the economy along a bit.
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Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.18pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 11.11pm

Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.54pm

Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 10.51pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 10.40pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.25pm

Done well for the UK manufacturing and industry.

Edited by nickgusset (10 Apr 2013 10.26pm)

Stop blaming Thatcher for having to deal with reality.

You seem to think that we should borrow from the market to keep people in jobs or tax everyone higher to keep them there.

That's a failed economy right there.

It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest...

erm....do we really need to explain that one to you Nick?

Well Iceland let their banks go under and invested in infrastructure. They're doing rather well.

Indiviual banks can, and have, gone to the wall in the UK too, but if you let the entire banking sector go to the wall, that is economic suicide.

But it would be letting the market run it's course. It's what Maggie would have wanted.
When are the banks going to pay us back? Would help with the deficit.
As an aside, I found out that the UK owes the bank of England around £345bn. Why don't we just wipe that debt off?

I think you cracked it. And while they're at it, the BoE could print another 345 billion, give us each 5 million or so, and we'd all be millionaires. Problem solved!

Edited by SloveniaDave (10 Apr 2013 11.18pm)

Actually that's not a bad idea. Rather than bailing the banks out, give everyone in the UK a grand on the proviso they spend it in the shops within a month, that'll jig the economy along a bit.

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SloveniaDave Tirana, Albania 10 Apr 13 11.24pm
Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 11.22pm Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.18pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 11.11pm Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.04pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.54pm Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 10.51pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 10.40pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.25pm Done well for the UK manufacturing and industry. Edited by nickgusset (10 Apr 2013 10.26pm) Stop blaming Thatcher for having to deal with reality. You seem to think that we should borrow from the market to keep people in jobs or tax everyone higher to keep them there. That's a failed economy right there. It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest... erm....do we really need to explain that one to you Nick? Well Iceland let their banks go under and invested in infrastructure. They're doing rather well. Almost all the money invested in icelandic banks was from non-nationals. In terms of growth, they have turned the corner but their recipe was to slash public spending, borrow enormously (from Norway) and take no responsibility for the bank debts to foreigners. If thats your solution, then fair play but seems pretty brutal for a socialist. Indiviual banks can, and have, gone to the wall in the UK too, but if you let the entire banking sector go to the wall, that is economic suicide. But it would be letting the market run it's course. It's what Maggie would have wanted. When are the banks going to pay us back? Would help with the deficit. As an aside, I found out that the UK owes the bank of England around £345bn. Why don't we just wipe that debt off? I think you cracked it. And while they're at it, the BoE could print another 345 billion, give us each 5 million or so, and we'd all be millionaires. Problem solved! Edited by SloveniaDave (10 Apr 2013 11.18pm) Actually that's not a bad idea. Rather than bailing the banks out, give everyone in the UK a grand on the proviso they spend it in the shops within a month, that'll jig the economy along a bit. You are the devil's advocate and I claim my pound of flesh! Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. (Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)
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Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 11.22pm

Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.18pm

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Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 11.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.54pm

Quote SloveniaDave at 10 Apr 2013 10.51pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 10.40pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.25pm

Done well for the UK manufacturing and industry.

Edited by nickgusset (10 Apr 2013 10.26pm)

Stop blaming Thatcher for having to deal with reality.

You seem to think that we should borrow from the market to keep people in jobs or tax everyone higher to keep them there.

That's a failed economy right there.

It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest...

erm....do we really need to explain that one to you Nick?

Well Iceland let their banks go under and invested in infrastructure. They're doing rather well.

Indiviual banks can, and have, gone to the wall in the UK too, but if you let the entire banking sector go to the wall, that is economic suicide.

But it would be letting the market run it's course. It's what Maggie would have wanted.
When are the banks going to pay us back? Would help with the deficit.
As an aside, I found out that the UK owes the bank of England around £345bn. Why don't we just wipe that debt off?

I think you cracked it. And while they're at it, the BoE could print another 345 billion, give us each 5 million or so, and we'd all be millionaires. Problem solved!

Edited by SloveniaDave (10 Apr 2013 11.18pm)

Actually that's not a bad idea. Rather than bailing the banks out, give everyone in the UK a grand on the proviso they spend it in the shops within a month, that'll jig the economy along a bit.

You are the devil's advocate and I claim my pound of flesh!

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!

My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.

(Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)

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Stirlingsays 10 Apr 13 11.58pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 Apr 2013 11.01pm Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 10.50pm Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest... Not all Tories agreed with saving the banks, many didn't. They would have been wrong. The reality is that the banks had to be propped up, or the country really would have gone down the toilet, as the industry would have collapsed like dominos, taking other related industries and peoples savings etc with it. What didn't need to happen is the kowtowing to the Bankers that followed, the government should have stood firm. As opposed to what? A short death or a long drawn out one. Hayek, who Thatcher followed would have been shocked by this huge Keynesian experiment....All to maintain the status quo...A status quo that was rotten to the core. The destruction would have been temporary also there were other alternatives to just using borrowed cash to keep afloat failed businesses....Untried methods that weren't going to be risked...Instead we everyone trotted out Keynes and saved the very criminals who caused the disaster....With their giant bonuses. I liked Sal Khan's alternative of investing in new banks.....There was no pain free alternative but I don't believe that the solutions chosen were the best ones. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2013 12.02am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 10.44pm

It's strange that current consensus is to reign in spending to get the economy on track and going again, yet to get the banks going, government needs to invest...

Not all Tories agreed with saving the banks, many didn't.

They would have been wrong. The reality is that the banks had to be propped up, or the country really would have gone down the toilet, as the industry would have collapsed like dominos, taking other related industries and peoples savings etc with it.

What didn't need to happen is the kowtowing to the Bankers that followed, the government should have stood firm.

As opposed to what?

A short death or a long drawn out one. Hayek, who Thatcher followed would have been shocked by this huge Keynesian experiment....All to maintain the status quo...A status quo that was rotten to the core.

The destruction would have been temporary also there were other alternatives to just using borrowed cash to keep afloat failed businesses....Untried methods that weren't going to be risked...Instead we everyone trotted out Keynes and saved the very criminals who caused the disaster....With their giant bonuses.

I liked Sal Khan's alternative of investing in new banks.....There was no pain free alternative but I don't believe that the solutions chosen were the best ones.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2013 12.02am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 Apr 2013 11.04pm Quote Jimenez at 10 Apr 2013 10.59pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 Apr 2013 10.57pm Quote matt_himself at 10 Apr 2013 9.49pm Absolute bollocks. If you talk the talk, walk the walk. Both you and Nick have massively gone down in my estimation over the past few days. You are a middle class, John Lennon wannabe and Nick is an aspirational Tory-son. Rebel, boys, rebel. Both of you need to deal with your middle class guilt and get on who and what you really are. Edited by matt_himself (10 Apr 2013 9.51pm) One life, and socialism isn't about being poor, or what you do, its a bit more complex than that. End of the day, I have to eat, pay rent, bills etc just like everyone else. "Imagine" Its easy, if you try. That said, I'm no fan of the Beatles or Lennon, much more a Kinks man. He's (not) a dedicated follower of fascism ...
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 Apr 2013 11.04pm

Quote Jimenez at 10 Apr 2013 10.59pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 Apr 2013 10.57pm

Quote matt_himself at 10 Apr 2013 9.49pm
Absolute bollocks. If you talk the talk, walk the walk.

Both you and Nick have massively gone down in my estimation over the past few days. You are a middle class, John Lennon wannabe and Nick is an aspirational Tory-son. Rebel, boys, rebel.

Both of you need to deal with your middle class guilt and get on who and what you really are.

Edited by matt_himself (10 Apr 2013 9.51pm)

One life, and socialism isn't about being poor, or what you do, its a bit more complex than that. End of the day, I have to eat, pay rent, bills etc just like everyone else.

"Imagine"

Its easy, if you try.

That said, I'm no fan of the Beatles or Lennon, much more a Kinks man.

He's (not) a dedicated follower of fascism ...

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Apr 13 7.41am
It's the third day. Murdoch enterprises are waiting anxiously to see if they can run with their prepared 'She has risen - Margaret Backatcher' headline. Edited by Kermit8 (11 Apr 2013 7.42am) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 11 Apr 13 7.41am

It's the third day.

Murdoch enterprises are waiting anxiously to see if they can run with their prepared 'She has risen - Margaret Backatcher' headline.

Edited by Kermit8 (11 Apr 2013 7.42am)

Big chest and massive boobs

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 11 Apr 13 8.04am
2 publications are running with the same headline. Maggie's Thatch. Womens Own is publishing memoirs of Maggie's hairdresser. Playboy are still consulting lawyers I disengage, I turn the page.
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2 publications are running with the same headline.

Maggie's Thatch.

Womens Own is publishing memoirs of Maggie's hairdresser.

Playboy are still consulting lawyers

I disengage, I turn the page.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Apr 13 10.53am
Interestingly a much over looked fact in the 1980 ecconomic recovery is that Thatcher raised taxation. I had completely forgotten about that. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 11 Apr 13 10.53am

Interestingly a much over looked fact in the 1980 ecconomic recovery is that Thatcher raised taxation. I had completely forgotten about that.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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