OK Mstrobez. Let's be real and straight forward about it. Last 4 quarterly GDP growth rates from Greece:

0.4%
0.7%
-1.1%
0.4%

UK:
0.6%
0.5%
0.7%
0.2%

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Let's invest a pretend £100 into each economy at the Brexit result, and see where we end up:

UK: £102.01
Greece: £100.39

"Quite clearly linked to Brexit isnt [sic] it?"

Here, to shut you up, I did a few more:

Italy: £101.10
Germany: £101.71
Spain: £103.03
France: £101.10

So. Only Spain (a full 10 places below us in the global GDP ranking) has grown faster. Whoopee. Let's all be like Spain. 20% unemployment rate. 40% youth unemployment rate. An nomadic labour force roaming Europe for menial work.

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Yes, we *will* encounter financial risks on the way to leaving the EU, and this was acknowledged by the Leave campaign. Funny how there's no mention of the financial risks of remaining in the EU? Is that because there are none? It's all very well delightedly hammering away at this doomsday scenario where the UK is destined for destitution, but (as much as you want it to be the case), the figures have thus-far shown otherwise....

..and if we encounter difficulties on the way: better that than shackled to a distant, rapidly federalising, power-grabbing union hell-bent on realising their socialist dream without seeking popular consent from their minions.

In short. Shut up.

I agree a success can be made of Brexit.

A lot of people say this and it is a typical meaningless piece of deflection.

There is not and never has been, any plan for the UK after brexit, it is entirely a risk.

As for the EU needing reform it will be in a much better place after brexit with no deal and no UK at all.

I note the tumbleweed rolling past this post. Why could that be? Is everyone too busy furiously masturbating over any sliver of anti-Brexit news to confirmation-bias engorge themselves on?

Two Italian banks fail....and you still talk of 'risk' as if it's just about leaving and not staying in.

I don't actually want the EU to fail but realistically I don't see how it can't.....It's an economic walking timebomb.

We are still damaged when the time comes....but just less than would have been the case.

In a perfect world the EU would reform into a far looser group without an economic union or plans for a superstate...But still a union which recognised the sense of being European and helping and trading with each other.....But this isn't going to happen.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

It's weird that no one mentioned this during the EU referendum isn't it? You lot said there would be none, none at all, zilch, we were on the road to prosperity and freedom. Doomsday? You've even yourself admitted that we're taking financial risks but once again haven't outlined the reason why. You yourself have shown in the last quarter, as our situation becomes more and more uncertain that we had less growth than Greece and guess what mate - we haven't even left yet! The argument you seem to hold is that we may well be OK in the end, which I've never doubted, but that as a reason to leave the EU is absolute insanity. Leavers seem to rush to argue that things are looking like we won't be completely doomed to support the argument of this ridiculous economic uncertainty. We clearly have a lessening control of affairs, sovereignty is a weightless argument and the country is poorer but hey we can get rid of those smelly faceless immigrants (none that you know of course) can't we so it'll all be worth it in the end. People like me should stop talking down the country.

We're the Arthur over ere!

Parliament has “remained sovereign throughout our membership to the EU” despite people “not always feeling like that”, the Brexit White Paper says.

You lot contradict yourselves at pretty much every corner. It's literally like a religion.

We're the Arthur over ere!