This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
US politics
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 02 Jul 24 5.02pm |
  |
|---|---|
|
It's very different. What was in place was that a President could not be prosecuted for any official act. Something done on behalf of the State. Not him personally. The SC has now redefined that to include acts previously considered as part of campaigning and gone further by banning all and every document and electronic record of both Trump and his advisers from being used in evidence. This alone means that presenting any kind of evidence, no matter how obvious a crime has occurred as almost impossible It must surely be obvious to the most devoted Trump supporter that continuing to suggest there has been election fraud when the results have all been certified, many by Republican officers, and every court challenge has been thrown out as spurious, even by Judges perceived as conservative is a personal act. Not one by a President. To then phone a Governor and ask him to "find" some votes tops even that. For the SC to throw spanners into the mechanism whereby this man is brought before a court and these allegations tested is political interference of the worst kind.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
  |
Teddy Eagle  02 Jul 24 5.06pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's very different. What was in place was that a President could not be prosecuted for any official act. Something done on behalf of the State. Not him personally. The SC has now redefined that to include acts previously considered as part of campaigning and gone further by banning all and every document and electronic record of both Trump and his advisers from being used in evidence. This alone means that presenting any kind of evidence, no matter how obvious a crime has occurred as almost impossible It must surely be obvious to the most devoted Trump supporter that continuing to suggest there has been election fraud when the results have all been certified, many by Republican officers, and every court challenge has been thrown out as spurious, even by Judges perceived as conservative is a personal act. Not one by a President. To then phone a Governor and ask him to "find" some votes tops even that. For the SC to throw spanners into the mechanism whereby this man is brought before a court and these allegations tested is political interference of the worst kind. So why is it a good thing?
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Jul 24 5.07pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by XKudu
I wonder if Biden is clinging to power because he’s petrified of being prosecuted for criminal acts he allegedly committed during his time as vice-president when he peddled cash for access/influence through his son to enrich the Biden family to the tune of +m. This probably explains why his wife and wider family are all encouraging him to remain in office when he should be licking ice cream on a park bench. You can already write the script. He’ll finally be forced to quit, be prosecuted and then suddenly play the mental incapacity card. “I’m too gaga to face trial…”. The key word above is "allegedly"! Who is doing the alleging? Why would they do that? Is there any actual evidence or is there only innuendo? Has there been, despite huge efforts by Republican committees, any charges laid? If the answer is no, then it is fair to assume this is all just bs. Widely believed bs is still bs.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Jul 24 5.10pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So why is it a good thing? This most certainly isn't. Unless you are a convicted felon trying to wriggle out of further charges and get to the WH where you can rid yourself of them.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Teddy Eagle 02 Jul 24 5.13pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This most certainly isn't. Unless you are a convicted felon trying to wriggle out of further charges and get to the WH where you can rid yourself of them. Or you're a supreme court judge who voted for it.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Stirlingsays 03 Jul 24 2.50am |
 |
|---|---|
|
Here is Mike Benz with the inside track as to why Biden hasn't been ousted yet. It's where the real power is.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
cryrst  The garden of England 03 Jul 24 5.42am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of course, it's plain stupid. That's the point! But stupid or not it's now the law. That example won't ever become real but others could which are every bit as stupid. It must be recognised and reversed or the consequences could be civil war. The uk has 100 s of old laws which could still be used as they are still available.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Badger11 Beckenham 03 Jul 24 7.15am |
|
|---|---|
|
Sleepy Joe at it again. From the BBC ""President Joe Biden has blamed his poor debate performance last week on jet lag, telling reporters that he "wasn't very smart" for "travelling around the world a couple of times" before the debate. " The problem is Joe that you were back in the USA two weeks before the debate and spent the previous week at Camp David* prepping. Now I grant you that jet lag takes time to get over but if it really means you haven't recovered after 2 weeks then this just asks more questions about your health. You also flew Airforce One the Presidential jet that comes with beds. It's not like you caught the red eye and flew economy the night before. *Camp David is used as a country retreat by US Presidents who go there to relax. Edited by Badger11 (03 Jul 2024 7.16am)
One more point |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
BelfastEagle  03 Jul 24 7.42am |
|
|---|---|
|
We think our choice is bad ….imagine having to pick from an old man and a con man. Biden can’t even remember his own name and Trump is a career criminal. No wonder the likes of Putin are laughing 😆
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| XKudu The Midlands, England 03 Jul 24 10.18am |
|
|---|---|
|
Wisbech You have defended Biden and blasted Trump at every turn and seem to be unable to judge ‘your man’ Biden objectively due to your loathing of Trump. This is political tribalism at its worst and I would expect more from an intelligent chap like you. I also loathe Trump but that doesn’t mean I have to blindly cheer on a man who has been suffering from serious mental decline for at least a couple of years and is highly likely to be charged with serious bribery & corruption in due course. Please open your eyes and don’t just see what you want to see.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Jul 24 11.12am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by XKudu
Wisbech You have defended Biden and blasted Trump at every turn and seem to be unable to judge ‘your man’ Biden objectively due to your loathing of Trump. This is political tribalism at its worst and I would expect more from an intelligent chap like you. I also loathe Trump but that doesn’t mean I have to blindly cheer on a man who has been suffering from serious mental decline for at least a couple of years and is highly likely to be charged with serious bribery & corruption in due course. Please open your eyes and don’t just see what you want to see. I can't see him being charged with anything except electricity.
Red and Blue Army! |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
 Hrolf The Ganger 03 Jul 24 1.05pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by ASCPFC
I can't see him being charged with anything except electricity.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / RegisterNew users
Registration is now on our new message board
Existing users
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
Sponsors
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2025 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.