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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 8.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Tell me what advancements have been made since the Manchester bombing, the Streatham incident, Hartlepool incident etc. that have eradicated the attacks by people of different cultures against the British population? Whatever it is it hasnt stopped the attacks, if anything they are more frequent . And yet during those times more and more undocumented individuals arrive on our shores. It’s like trying to put out a fire with water whilst someone else is pouring petrol on it. There’s a lot to unpack there. Whether I will be able to fully do so now is questionable. Suffice to say that whilst every incident is hugely to be regretted they are all committed by individual criminals, whatever their motivations might be. To try to draw a link between them, as you and others do, isn’t going to help anything. It’s going to make it worse. We need to separate the criminals from the good guys and not categorise them as a group linked by irrelevant issues, like religion or immigration status. Everyone knows we have a problem with illegal migration but that is no reason to attribute any perception of an increase in violent crime to it. Perception being all it is because every report into this that I have seen does not support the assumptions. I think it’s another assumption that there are lots of people fed up with government inaction over the small boat issue. An assumption that seems illogical as we have a new government who have hardly discovered where their offices are yet. They have promised a new approach to try to kickstart some progress with an intractable problem. I doubt it will satisfy most of those who post here, but the rest? We will see.
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Aug 24 8.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
2 incidents of Muslim car drivers dragged out of cars. One was stabbed, maybe both. This is only going to increase as each side singles out lone victims., Indiscriminate attacks on innocent people will solve nothing. It seems to me that Muslim 'communities' need to hold their own accountable for radicalism, but the biggest issue is who we have allowed to settle here and how global politics and religion predictably plays into their mindsets. That is entirely down to government policy. Blame them not innocents. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 Aug 2024 8.32pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 8.37pm | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Far Right = not wanting your kids murdered and or raped. Wrong. Those being labelled as Far Right are better described as yobs, hooligans or boneheads. These people are exploiting an awful tragedy, in which children were murdered, to promote an ideology that is divisive and unrepresentative of the vast majority of British citizens. Those showing even a sliver of sympathy for them or their ideology should be ashamed of themselves.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 8.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Bats, clubs, knives, machetes, hammers and axes. No police response. And they wonder why this is going on. Ask yourself if they would be there if the “anti-immigration” bunch of rioting boneheads weren’t there first? This is a reaction. Not an action. A deeply to be regretted, and must be curtailed, reaction it is, but it would not be there without the yobs.
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Teddy Eagle 03 Aug 24 8.43pm | |
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From Prospect magazine With economic pressures only increasing, the country’s collective psyche still scarred by the unspeakable psychological violence of Covid and lockdown, and a change of government that looks like it’s not going to change much else, communities are stretched to breaking point and something has to give. There’s a fine line between riot and rebellion; how you define an event depends on which side you stand. Martin Luther King once said, “A riot is the language of the unheard.” Last week, Harehills spoke. But did anyone listen?
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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 03 Aug 24 8.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There’s a lot to unpack there. Whether I will be able to fully do so now is questionable. Suffice to say that whilst every incident is hugely to be regretted they are all committed by individual criminals, whatever their motivations might be. To try to draw a link between them, as you and others do, isn’t going to help anything. It’s going to make it worse. We need to separate the criminals from the good guys and not categorise them as a group linked by irrelevant issues, like religion or immigration status. Everyone knows we have a problem with illegal migration but that is no reason to attribute any perception of an increase in violent crime to it. Perception being all it is because every report into this that I have seen does not support the assumptions. I think it’s another assumption that there are lots of people fed up with government inaction over the small boat issue. An assumption that seems illogical as we have a new government who have hardly discovered where their offices are yet. They have promised a new approach to try to kickstart some progress with an intractable problem. I doubt it will satisfy most of those who post here, but the rest? We will see. If the individuals are inspired by a certain interpretation of a religious instruction, then there is your connection. They don't have to be an organised group with a chain of command as the perpetrators think they are carrying out their gods wishes. We will see about this latest incident. Illegal immigrants don't have to be committing the attacks - although several have - but they get absorbed into their similar culture areas and make it more difficult to weed out the genuine potential murderers. Meanwhile, in Albania, the Italians are opening a couple of processing centres for those immigrants arriving by sea. 3000 can be accommodated. Amazing what a right wing government can achieve...
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 8.47pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Would you describe the so called Roma riot as "mindless violence from a bunch of thugs" as you have the other disturbances? Edited by georgenorman (03 Aug 2024 7.46pm) Possibly, although they were reacting to something that happened to their own local community, and not something miles away that had no personal connections. Once it got out of control it became mindless violence.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 03 Aug 24 8.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Possibly, although they were reacting to something that happened to their own local community, and not something miles away that had no personal connections. Once it got out of control it became mindless violence. Stoke has gone nuts. And Liverpool, Sunderland and other places. Wisbech....do you accept or deny that people will probably be murdered tonight ? on our streets ? cos my only question is will it be 3 people or 300 people. this terrifying and you are still in denial about it. Personally, i am horrified but not even slightly surprised. Edited by PalazioVecchio (03 Aug 2024 8.54pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 8.52pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
I just read the BBC's round-up of today's thuggery. Lots of 'far-right' and 'islamaphopic' references and a couple of 'counter-protest' comments. See the narrative here? Some violent protest bad; other violent protest good. No mention of the islamic private army terrorising people in Stoke. Not as I, and as expect, most others will read it. One group was initiating violence. Another was responding to it. Hence they were “counter-protesting”. Without the first the second would not have been there.
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Stirlingsays 03 Aug 24 8.55pm | |
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Kick out adherents to third worldism. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Aug 2024 8.56pm)
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Matov 03 Aug 24 8.56pm | |
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If you take a circular view of history then what we are seeing now is essentially a late stage civilisation imploding on itself. The West as we have known it has enjoyed a good run but probably reached a nadir probably around 1913. Then we had WW1 and everything started going down hill after that. Its the welfare state which in turn attracted the third-world that will ultimately blow it up but it is possible that when things really start collapsing, and the welfare state model just cannot function anymore, then many migrants will drift away. They are here purely for economic reasons. Turn the tap off and they go. They have no heritage, no links, no myths to bind them in the West and will just go away eventually. Best bet now for anybody is to get a trade, knuckle down and graft hard and just try and avoid as much 'diversity' as possible. Because it will be the economy that offers a solution ultimately. Just have to try to position yourself, and your family, to see that out. Insurgency starts with your buying and earning choices. Become pro-your own in as much as you possibly can.
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Stirlingsays 03 Aug 24 9.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
If you take a circular view of history then what we are seeing now is essentially a late stage civilisation imploding on itself. The West as we have known it has enjoyed a good run but probably reached a nadir probably around 1913. Then we had WW1 and everything started going down hill after that. Its the welfare state which in turn attracted the third-world that will ultimately blow it up but it is possible that when things really start collapsing, and the welfare state model just cannot function anymore, then many migrants will drift away. They are here purely for economic reasons. Turn the tap off and they go. They have no heritage, no links, no myths to bind them in the West and will just go away eventually. Best bet now for anybody is to get a trade, knuckle down and graft hard and just try and avoid as much 'diversity' as possible. Because it will be the economy that offers a solution ultimately. Just have to try to position yourself, and your family, to see that out. Insurgency starts with your buying and earning choices. Become pro-your own in as much as you possibly can. Wise words. Winter is coming....don't be left wearing a t-shirt.
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