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 Spiderman  Horsham 10 Dec 20 8.51pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
had to change it for the film, things are different these days, but changing history??? Haven’t seen the film for some time but have they recently changed the name? Sure that was the name in the original
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 Hrolf The Ganger 10 Dec 20 8.56pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Nope hrolf, unless you are of an ethnic make up you cannot possibly be offended by abuse unless its racist abuse. Load of bollox. People are people and we all have feelings. Yeah, this is an issue I have with the racial abuse thing. When I hear people losing it over racial abuse, I just wonder if they have any backbone. I'm sure many people have experienced abuse of all sorts and you just have to get on with it. I don't see too many fat or bald people forming militant groups or taking a knee about it and I don't believe that there is a special emotion exclusively reserved for racial abuse. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Dec 2020 8.56pm)
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cryrst  The garden of England 10 Dec 20 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yeah, this is an issue I have with the racial abuse thing. When I hear people losing it over racial abuse, I just wonder if they have any backbone. I'm sure many people have experienced abuse of all sorts and you just have to get on with it. I don't see too many fat or bald people forming militant groups or taking a knee about it and I don't believe that there is a special emotion exclusively reserved for racial abuse. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Dec 2020 8.56pm) Wait for the you dont know what slavery did line.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Dec 20 9.07pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Haven’t seen the film for some time but have they recently changed the name? Sure that was the name in the original It's edited out of the film but also the memorial has been changed.
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| CrazyBadger Ware 11 Dec 20 9.31am |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Re-read what I said. And yes, I have had the barber example happen to me. Took zero offence to it either. As far as I see It, It only becomes racist once someone is offended by it, regardless of The intent in which it was said. Sure, if it was intended to be racist, then it's more likely for it to be offensive to someone. but that does not mean that just because no racist intent was used that someone will not take offence, and deem it racist. If someone else went to your barber shop and got offended by being asked to try another barbers, would it be racist then?
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| Stirlingsays 11 Dec 20 9.45am |
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This guy wants to justify his racism based on semantics. He doesn't seem to realise that treating people differently due to their race is literally racism. How he wishes to describe it or feels about it is immaterial and as stated pure semantics. That some races might benefit from racism over others is not in dispute. As that's the whole point of it. It would be quite nature for them to then wish to redefine or re-describe. I just prefer honesty.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Dec 20 9.45am |
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A black friend of mine asked to borrow my hair clippers recently. (barbers have all been shut) I always cut my own hair, just shave it off (skinhead as I'm bald). I told him my clippers aren't that strong as it's obvious his hair is miles tougher than mine. I still leant him them. They came back broken.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 11 Dec 20 9.57am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Haven’t seen the film for some time but have they recently changed the name? Sure that was the name in the original in the remake its changed, different times! My mother took a reel of cotton to the shop to try and match the colour, the shop assistant was deeply offended(she said) as the colour on the spool was n****r brown! The nspool is over 40 years old!
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 11 Dec 20 11.20am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This guy wants to justify his racism based on semantics. He doesn't seem to realise that treating people differently due to their race is literally racism. How he wishes to describe it or feels about it is immaterial and as stated pure semantics. That some races might benefit from racism over others is not in dispute. As that's the whole point of it. It would be quite nature for them to then wish to redefine or re-describe. I just prefer honesty.
I came into this thread to read about what other people thought about the Millwall incident, I gave my view and perspective, as a black man on this and other issues but for some reason, you are deflecting your own closeted (or not so closeted) racism towards me. Please, do point me in the direction of my own racism? Do you not understand the power dynamics and dehumanising involved in racism? Treating people differently (and in my example, positively), is not racism.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 20 11.42am |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I came into this thread to read about what other people thought about the Millwall incident, I gave my view and perspective, as a black man on this and other issues but for some reason, you are deflecting your own closeted (or not so closeted) racism towards me. Please, do point me in the direction of my own racism? Do you not understand the power dynamics and dehumanising involved in racism? Treating people differently (and in my example, positively), is not racism. Well said. I agree with all you say here. Let's now see just how honest he really is.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Dec 20 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I came into this thread to read about what other people thought about the Millwall incident, I gave my view and perspective, as a black man on this and other issues but for some reason, you are deflecting your own closeted (or not so closeted) racism towards me. Please, do point me in the direction of my own racism? Do you not understand the power dynamics and dehumanising involved in racism? Treating people differently (and in my example, positively), is not racism. Are you having a laugh? You are behaving in a way that exactly demonstrates what he is talking about. Anyone who disagrees with your way of thinking, you call a racist. So that must make you a racist too right?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Dec 20 1.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Well said. I agree with all you say here. Let's now see just how honest he really is. You don't know what honest is.
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