That is what a lot of people suggested. You'd have to find a Museum that's willing to take it due to its historical implications and security issues.

You're right, a statue does suggest he did something good... and he did, although the reasons for doing it are debatable.

We are talking about a time when the United Kingdon didn't exist. It was 100 years before the USA existed.

Ireland was being conquered by Cromwell who committed atrocities theire in the name of religion, but he also brought a constitutional monarchy. You don't see people pulling down his statue, probably because outside Ireland people aren't properly educated about him (even in Ireland its distorted). He also developed a constitutional monarcy, the first nation in the world to have one, 100 years before anywhere else in Europe, and possible a precurser to the democracy we have today.

I think it's more important to tell the whole story of how we got to where we are today, rather than just block out the bits we don't like.

Pulling it down just reinforces the position that AntiFA are intollerant of anyone who objects to their narrative.

I think all the looting and fighting police, what people are trying to achieve has been lost.

Is very poignant.

If they were at all serious about achieveing anything they cannot possibly think their current actions are going to reach the desired outcome.

If anything, they've actually very probably further cemented any ill feeling in many peoples heads.

My take away from everything yesterday is 'Black People b!tching and moaning about racism in the UK have decided to attack and `vandalise a statue dedicated to the man who Brits voted as Greatest Briton of all time'.

What genius.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Wonder if DanH has any clothes made in Bangladesh?

Edited by Spiderman (08 Jun 2020 9.05am)

I didn’t think the London rioting was going to be a good image for young black people at the start and it still isn’t. Government no doubt knew this is likely. At some point the batons will have to come out so the ill feeling will mean the media can’t brainwash everyone the government or police are institutionally racist. Again, something I keep hearing is in Britain today because of a few incidents of racist words or actions from individual cops. The police are not institutionally racist today. Just like ‘oppression’ and ‘white privilege’, another false and exaggerated term for today.

COYP

The thing that got to me over the weekend was that it coincided with the Anniversary of the D Day landings, the commemorations of which had to be postponed because of the current rules. Because these commemorations were going to be attended by an ever-dwindling number of people that were actually there, and who lived through the war, it suggests to me that this is more recent history than the slavery era.

Yet, the Cenotaph and the statue of Churchill were attacked and defaced when they are monuments to more relevant recent history that gave us all the privilege of being able to live as we do today. That was truly standing up to white supremacy, and all of us, black, white, straight, gay, male or female should thank our Gods (or lucky stars if you prefer) that we did.

The very fact that we won allows us to protest against things that we don't like, and there is so much today and in recent years that is wrong, but a sense of perspective needs to be retained before either side of the argument froths at the other. We should all retain the same dignity that the survivors of that more recent terrible age display.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

Absolutely.
This is just the beginning of British culture being eroded and destroyed by those who came from outside.