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JRW2 Dulwich 27 May 17 4.42pm
Originally posted by Willo Some while ago Martin Tyler said he believed that Murphy would be a manager sometime in the future.Appears to want to stick to punditry. Don't blame him. Extremely well paid, I believe, far shorter working week, and rather more secure than managing. It doesn't seem to matter how bad you are, some broadcasting channel or other will employ you.
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Dulwich 27 May 17 4.42pm

Originally posted by Willo

Some while ago Martin Tyler said he believed that Murphy would be a manager sometime in the future.Appears to want to stick to punditry.

Don't blame him. Extremely well paid, I believe, far shorter working week, and rather more secure than managing. It doesn't seem to matter how bad you are, some broadcasting channel or other will employ you.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 May 17 4.45pm
Originally posted by Willo Thank you for the lesson. I am used to it, as my wife is a retired school teacher after 35 years in the classroom and my daughter is in the profession. Always willing to learn even at the age of 64 ! Do they still need you and do they still feed you? Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 27 May 17 4.45pm

Originally posted by Willo

Thank you for the lesson.
I am used to it, as my wife is a retired school teacher after 35 years in the classroom and my daughter is in the profession.
Always willing to learn even at the age of 64 !

Do they still need you and do they still feed you?

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Den1923 27 May 17 4.54pm
Originally posted by phillanth I am obviously hopelessly biased and/or deluded, but I genuinely do not understand why Silva would prefer Watford to us. We have a much better squad, came higher in the league and no matter how well he does he will get sacked at the end of the season. Presumably they offered him vast sums of money, but you'd have thought that there must be some football-related factors as well. All the other candidates that have been mentioned will be a step backwards after Big Sam for me. I could not agree more, we always seem to struggle to persuade top targets to come to CP, there is something that is not right in the way we manage these negotiations. The only common denominator would appear to be the Chairman?
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27 May 17 4.54pm

Originally posted by phillanth

I am obviously hopelessly biased and/or deluded, but I genuinely do not understand why Silva would prefer Watford to us. We have a much better squad, came higher in the league and no matter how well he does he will get sacked at the end of the season. Presumably they offered him vast sums of money, but you'd have thought that there must be some football-related factors as well. All the other candidates that have been mentioned will be a step backwards after Big Sam for me.

I could not agree more, we always seem to struggle to persuade top targets to come to CP, there is something that is not right in the way we manage these negotiations. The only common denominator would appear to be the Chairman?

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 May 17 4.57pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Do they still need you and do they still feed you? I recall a cartoon where Heather Mills is asking Paul McCartney "When WILL you be 64 ?" !
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 May 17 4.57pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Do they still need you and do they still feed you?

I recall a cartoon where Heather Mills is asking Paul McCartney "When WILL you be 64 ?" !

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steeleye20 Croydon 27 May 17 5.00pm
Originally posted by Den1923 I could not agree more, we always seem to struggle to persuade top targets to come to CP, there is something that is not right in the way we manage these negotiations. The only common denominator would appear to be the Chairman? Why should Palace want him if they did, the Hull defence sent them down over -30 goals the last thing we need.
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Croydon 27 May 17 5.00pm

Originally posted by Den1923

Why should Palace want him if they did, the Hull defence sent them down over -30 goals the last thing we need.

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laddo london 27 May 17 5.05pm
Watford had two more weeks on us to secure Silva. Yes, from what I've told we had talks but we also (and rightly) wanted to talk to others. Silva wasn't willing to wait for the palace job, lose out on Watford and come away with nothing. It's true also that silva was offered more money at Watford. So what?! I'm sure Parish will have upped the offer if silva blew him away. He clearly didn't. Parish and the board will take their time which is the right thing to do. laddo "People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist". David Brent.
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london 27 May 17 5.05pm

Watford had two more weeks on us to secure Silva. Yes, from what I've told we had talks but we also (and rightly) wanted to talk to others. Silva wasn't willing to wait for the palace job, lose out on Watford and come away with nothing.

It's true also that silva was offered more money at Watford. So what?! I'm sure Parish will have upped the offer if silva blew him away. He clearly didn't. Parish and the board will take their time which is the right thing to do.

laddo

"People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist".
David Brent.

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dynamicdick Dormansland 27 May 17 5.06pm
I have given this subject a lot of thought and have come to the following conclusion; 1. We need a manager with either PL or comparable major European league experience. 2. We need stability but not without progress playing football suited to our style. 3. As part of the stability try to retain the current back room staff who have worked so well under SA. 4. My choices at this stage would be Ranieri. Bring back Brolin
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Dormansland 27 May 17 5.06pm

I have given this subject a lot of thought and have come to the following conclusion;

1. We need a manager with either PL or comparable major European league experience.
2. We need stability but not without progress playing football suited to our style.
3. As part of the stability try to retain the current back room staff who have worked so well under SA.
4. My choices at this stage would be Ranieri.

Bring back Brolin

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Den1923 27 May 17 5.10pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Why should Palace want him if they did, the Hull defence sent them down over -30 goals the last thing we need. apart from Hull, where he did not arrive until January, he had a very good record for such a young manager, if Palace did not want him I would be surprised as the stuff in the press would indicate otherwise, there was no smoke without fire!, I suspect we would have liked him but the usual problems came up like how much I we prepared to invest in the team and what freedom he would have to manage and develop the team?, of course I do not know for sure but the antecedence would suggest some of those if not all were sticking points and may well have been the reason Sam left?
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27 May 17 5.10pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Why should Palace want him if they did, the Hull defence sent them down over -30 goals the last thing we need.

apart from Hull, where he did not arrive until January, he had a very good record for such a young manager, if Palace did not want him I would be surprised as the stuff in the press would indicate otherwise, there was no smoke without fire!, I suspect we would have liked him but the usual problems came up like how much I we prepared to invest in the team and what freedom he would have to manage and develop the team?, of course I do not know for sure but the antecedence would suggest some of those if not all were sticking points and may well have been the reason Sam left?

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 May 17 5.19pm
Originally posted by laddo Watford had two more weeks on us to secure Silva. Yes, from what I've told we had talks but we also (and rightly) wanted to talk to others. Silva wasn't willing to wait for the palace job, lose out on Watford and come away with nothing. It's true also that silva was offered more money at Watford. So what?! I'm sure Parish will have upped the offer if silva blew him away. He clearly didn't. Parish and the board will take their time which is the right thing to do.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 May 17 5.19pm

Originally posted by laddo

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Booted Eagle Bristol 27 May 17 5.28pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Is it Foolish to dismiss Ranieri? ' by Guntrisoft Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan which contacts? Contacts to spent bloody millions on unproven foreigners? Chuck unlimited money at things and we all can get a squad. But if you look at who Silva got in for Hull I would say that proves he has a much, much better eye for that side of the game then Ranieri. We stayed up because Sam got Luka and Sakho in. Getting Luka is not about contacts, its about football knowledge, knowing what a team needs, set your sights on realistic targets rather then buy blind and spent money on "names". Hence Mancini would be an awful choice. A lot of people seem to think we have a natural place in mid table with the squad we have, but while there is quality there is no depth whatsoever, and one might argue that we were overall rather lucky with injuries last season. I know we lost Souare and a bunch of CB at the end, but imagine if either Benteke of Wilf would have ended up seriously injured. Spot on. A lot still talking about going to the next level like the beginning of last season and as if we are already safe next season. With Newcastle returning the job will be a lot harder. A manager who is likely to throw cash around like confetti isn't going to be appointed. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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Bristol 27 May 17 5.28pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Is it Foolish to dismiss Ranieri? ' by Guntrisoft

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

which contacts? Contacts to spent bloody millions on unproven foreigners? Chuck unlimited money at things and we all can get a squad. But if you look at who Silva got in for Hull I would say that proves he has a much, much better eye for that side of the game then Ranieri. We stayed up because Sam got Luka and Sakho in. Getting Luka is not about contacts, its about football knowledge, knowing what a team needs, set your sights on realistic targets rather then buy blind and spent money on "names". Hence Mancini would be an awful choice.
A lot of people seem to think we have a natural place in mid table with the squad we have, but while there is quality there is no depth whatsoever, and one might argue that we were overall rather lucky with injuries last season. I know we lost Souare and a bunch of CB at the end, but imagine if either Benteke of Wilf would have ended up seriously injured.

Spot on. A lot still talking about going to the next level like the beginning of last season and as if we are already safe next season. With Newcastle returning the job will be a lot harder. A manager who is likely to throw cash around like confetti isn't going to be appointed.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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bexleydave Barnehurst 27 May 17 5.29pm
Originally posted by laddo Watford had two more weeks on us to secure Silva. Yes, from what I've told we had talks but we also (and rightly) wanted to talk to others. Silva wasn't willing to wait for the palace job, lose out on Watford and come away with nothing. It's true also that silva was offered more money at Watford. So what?! I'm sure Parish will have upped the offer if silva blew him away. He clearly didn't. Parish and the board will take their time which is the right thing to do. Yes that's the worry and, in the meantime, the more decisive steal off our plate. Sometimes it pays to decide what you want and go out and get it, without farting about. Edited by bexleydave (27 May 2017 5.29pm) Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 27 May 17 5.29pm

Originally posted by laddo

It's true also that silva was offered more money at Watford. So what?! I'm sure Parish will have upped the offer if silva blew him away. He clearly didn't. Parish and the board will take their time which is the right thing to do.

Yes that's the worry and, in the meantime, the more decisive steal off our plate. Sometimes it pays to decide what you want and go out and get it, without farting about.

Edited by bexleydave (27 May 2017 5.29pm)

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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oleandreas Trondheim 27 May 17 5.33pm
Anybody know why Gary Rowett ain't being linked? Something in his contract at Derby or is it his lack of experience in the Premier League?
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Trondheim 27 May 17 5.33pm

Anybody know why Gary Rowett ain't being linked? Something in his contract at Derby or is it his lack of experience in the Premier League?

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