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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Nov 20 10.12am | |
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Don’t some of you sleep, or have you emigrated? 3am and 4.30am posts.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Nov 20 10.21am | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
You've clearly decided that they have been 'made' ultra high, rather than are ultra high without any proof of that. We find ourselves right back at the above, where you posted disinformation to further your conspiracy that high amounts of respiratory deaths are all getting lumped in as covid. If you're going to accept and not question disinformation that you 'like' (and repeatedly ignore evidence of that when it's pointing out to you), that you would choose to then believe it's all a "lie" and a " government coverup!" at every turn is not surprising. Yeah we’ll see won’t we. We’ll see the numbers on other deaths throughout the next 6 months and the excuses, all after Covid was put down at every opportunity before. Government instruction? Justify the NHS closure? Anti-Tories? Less so but they have been the opposition in the minds of many in the NHS. And my opinions on vaccines is purely the issue of being injected without knowing the effects, so it depends on your odds, but you can bet you won’t be able to do many things without one, unless a negative test is allowed.
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 02 Nov 20 10.31am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Clearly if you don't socialise in the usual way you won't catch communicable diseases so much. COVID is extraordinary in its capability to be transmitted. And if you are locked in and at risk you are likely (hopefully) to have others around you to look after you, e.g. if you have dementia. A third of deaths have been in Care Homes. The Care Homes are 79% up on excess deaths. Do you really think they want their deaths put down to COVID? It is a commercial disaster. People die all the time in Care Homes, you have to be able to keep refilling them. We have half of our homes never having a COVID case, one that has had one and one that has had a COVID death. Guess which are fullest. The most important point is why do you constantly question to such an extent the motivations of everyone involved in handling the crisis. Presumably you really do believe we are governed by lizard men. LOLE
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Mapletree Croydon 02 Nov 20 10.34am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Not long ago I heard something like half of care homes weren’t using PPE, then there’s possibly the agency staff moving around homes. Doctors say what goes on a death certificate. Relatives also found that out and that it won’t be changed. What are you saying? Some Care Homes weren't careful enough, agreed albeit the guidance was totally rubbish Then you say that the Care Homes just rolled over and let Doctors put onto the Death Certificate what was not true. You're having a laugh. Many of these will have been Nursing Homes or Homes with Nursing. And recently every Resident has been tested. The only debate is whether people die 'with' or 'of' COVID. Your conspiracy theories are simply that, you have some kind of hatred for information that could be perceived as objective and instead prefer to live in a strange bubble of extremism.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Nov 20 10.43am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
What are you saying? Some Care Homes weren't careful enough, agreed albeit the guidance was totally rubbish Then you say that the Care Homes just rolled over and let Doctors put onto the Death Certificate what was not true. You're having a laugh. Many of these will have been Nursing Homes or Homes with Nursing. And recently every Resident has been tested. The only debate is whether people die 'with' or 'of' COVID. Your conspiracy theories are simply that, you have some kind of hatred for information that could be perceived as objective and instead prefer to live in a strange bubble of extremism. ‘SOME Care Homes weren't careful enough.’ You said that. I’m just saying what I heard quoted on LBC not long ago by callers and people with knowledge in the industry. There’s been plenty of relatives of the dead in care homes who’ve said this. There were even nurses with 20 year old Twitter accounts shouting this at the time. I agree that the effects in care homes was huge. But it’s been used to exaggerate the risk, to people not even in the same age group or health condition if they are the same age.
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Mapletree Croydon 02 Nov 20 10.47am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Maybe you did and I certainly remember there being a suggested linkage between darker skins, lower Vit C and C19. This though goes beyond that and seems to make a strong case for everyone to be taking it during the winter, especially at the moment. The recommended daily dose is also much higher at 4-5000 IU for adults. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (02 Nov 2020 8.07am) You must have been living in a yurt down there. Everyone knows all of the above. Of course you need Vitamin D all year round. Vitamin D undergoes two hydroxylations in the body for activation. Calcitriol (1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3), the active form of vitamin D, has a half-life of about 15 hours, whilst calcidiol (25-hydroxyvitamin D3) has a half-life of about 15 days. And of course it's more important during the winter when there is less direct sunlight. It is well established that you benefit fromm taking Cod Liver Oil in the winter, which has Vitamins A and D, and Omega 3 oil in the summer as you don't need to take in so much of those vitamins. Since 1928 it has been known that Vitamin C protects the immune system, reduces the severity of allergic reactions and helps to fight off infections. In particular Vitamin C helps to reduce the impact of cytokine storm. But to be effective when you have COVID-19 it has to be a high dosage intravenously. And you have to protect the kidneys whilst administering it.
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Mapletree Croydon 02 Nov 20 10.50am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
‘SOME Care Homes weren't careful enough.’ You said that. I’m just saying what I heard quoted on LBC not long ago by callers and people with knowledge in the industry. There’s been plenty of relatives of the dead in care homes who’ve said this. There were even nurses with 20 year old Twitter accounts shouting this at the time. I agree that the effects in care homes was huge. But it’s been used to exaggerate the risk, to people not even in the same age group or health condition if they are the same age. Ah LBC. The font of all knowledge. And always entirely unbiased. Try broadening your diet a little, you know more greens and yellows. Much better for you and the planet. Here you go, make a start on this:
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 02 Nov 20 10.50am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You must have been living in a yurt down there. Everyone knows all of the above. Of course you need Vitamin D all year round. Vitamin D undergoes two hydroxylations in the body for activation. Calcitriol (1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3), the active form of vitamin D, has a half-life of about 15 hours, whilst calcidiol (25-hydroxyvitamin D3) has a half-life of about 15 days. And of course it's more important during the winter when there is less direct sunlight. It is well established that you benefit fromm taking Cod Liver Oil in the winter, which has Vitamins A and D, and Omega 3 oil in the summer as you don't need to take in so much of those vitamins. Since 1928 it has been known that Vitamin C protects the immune system, reduces the severity of allergic reactions and helps to fight off infections. In particular Vitamin C helps to reduce the impact of cytokine storm. But to be effective when you have COVID-19 it has to be a high dosage intravenously. And you have to protect the kidneys whilst administering it. Ah. Some useful, factually grounded information at last.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Nov 20 11.13am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Ah LBC. The font of all knowledge. And always entirely unbiased. Try broadening your diet a little, you know more greens and yellows. Much better for you and the planet. Here you go, make a start on this: My diet is absolutely fine. Shame million have a cr&p diet the taxpayer has to cover. And I include people with plenty of money. The only reasonable excuse is they can’t afford the equipment or possibly some of the ingredients that don’t all get used in that meal. But that isn’t the case in a hearty stew etc so it normally comes down to laziness or ignorance. Education? Maybe, but if you have a smartphone you can access anything, including cooking guides. The poorest ethnic minorities still manage to cook food from scratch, it’s just some of the ingredients and the portion sizes that can become a problem. I get all the vitamins and minerals required and my plate is always full of vegetables. Much more vitamin c in a pepper than an orange and all that. Porridge everyday. I do have few too many beers a few times a week though. But I exercise loads and my body is strong. No to the Green Party or the illiberal yellows. The Lancet link has nothing on PPE in care homes now and from a respected person in the care industry. The guy I heard didn’t name places and he’s hardly likely to lie either. Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Nov 2020 11.14am)
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Mapletree Croydon 02 Nov 20 11.37am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
My diet is absolutely fine. Shame million have a cr&p diet the taxpayer has to cover. And I include people with plenty of money. The only reasonable excuse is they can’t afford the equipment or possibly some of the ingredients that don’t all get used in that meal. But that isn’t the case in a hearty stew etc so it normally comes down to laziness or ignorance. Education? Maybe, but if you have a smartphone you can access anything, including cooking guides. The poorest ethnic minorities still manage to cook food from scratch, it’s just some of the ingredients and the portion sizes that can become a problem. I get all the vitamins and minerals required and my plate is always full of vegetables. Much more vitamin c in a pepper than an orange and all that. Porridge everyday. I do have few too many beers a few times a week though. But I exercise loads and my body is strong. No to the Green Party or the illiberal yellows. The Lancet link has nothing on PPE in care homes now and from a respected person in the care industry. The guy I heard didn’t name places and he’s hardly likely to lie either. Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Nov 2020 11.14am) Have metaphors not yet reached Caterham?
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Nov 20 12.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Have metaphors not yet reached Caterham? Greens and illiberals. We’re as ever paying for the ignorance and stupidity of people that throw any s*** down their throats and don’t care. I thought that with talk of vitamin c and d it was a good moment to show personal responsibility that many don’t, and some of them are pretend or personal finance conservatives. Maybe I should run it by you beforehand. And you didn’t answer you not answering yourself. Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Nov 2020 12.16pm)
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Mapletree Croydon 02 Nov 20 12.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Greens and illiberals. We’re as ever paying for the ignorance and stupidity of people that throw any s*** down their throats and don’t care. I thought that with talk of vitamin c and d it was a good moment to show personal responsibility that many don’t, and some of them are pretend or personal finance conservatives. Maybe I should run it by you beforehand. And you didn’t answer you not answering yourself. Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Nov 2020 12.16pm) You just whooshed a perfectly decent bit of humour that is all. I don't know why i bother. By the way, from where do you get Vitamin D during the winter? Or are you a ginger in which case a nano-second in the sun is sufficient. Edited by Mapletree (02 Nov 2020 12.48pm)
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