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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Jul 24 7.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The more I read on this the more concerned I think everyone should be. The dissenting opinion from Sotomayor containing the most poignant comments. She suggests this decision has the potential to turn any President, even Biden, into a dictator. No one, whichever side of politics you are on should tolerate that. For instance she suggests that a President could order a navy seal to assassinate a political rival and not be prosecuted. Nor could the seal as he would be following orders. So imagine. Biden could now order Trump to be killed and nothing legally would happen. He won’t, because he isn’t corrupt, despite the slander that is chucked at him, and he also knows the result would be disastrous. Another President, especially one like Trump, might though. This opens the door to a dictatorship. Congress now needs to urgently legislate to overturn this ruling. In the immediate future this makes it even more important to ensure Trump does not succeed. I can think of nothing more galvanising for the Democrats determination to make sure of that than this. I expect it to become the main topic of their campaign and for the spectre of Trump as a dictator to now be centre stage. Biden must, and will, now stand aside. I can imagine quite a few Republican members and Senators who aren’t just Trump bootlickers being openly concerned as well. It’s a dark day for democracy and the western world. That is the same as it has always been. There has always been immunity for Presidents so none of this is news. One can only imagine the amount of illegal acts.
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Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 01 Jul 24 7.38pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Trump isn’t the pedophile who sniffs little girls hair in public and tries to cuddle them. What heinous crimes has trump committed. Oh accounting mistake and f***ing a brass. Yup that counts more than Biden the pedophile who if you haven’t noticed has been kept away from the public physically on stage for a while now! When did sniffing perfume and cuddling become paedophilia? Other, of course, in the copy of the right wing media and those that suck up their dross. Trying to overturn a legitimate election result is an extremely heinous crime, in my view. For which he should be tried in Court as there is grave suspicion that Trump did just that.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jul 24 7.40pm |
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These are huge leaps of fancy. Once again, a president must be immune from most prosecutions...though not all..... if they are going to carry out their role. The Democrats have abused the understanding common to every presidency on prosecutions....no party has ever behaved this way...for example prosecuting a president on documents....it's ridiculous and would never have been done. The charge that Trump can now abuse the law is another rich double standard when the Democrats have so richly used lawfare against Trump in an election year.....deliberately holding back these prosecutions until they thought it had the largest effect. Once in office Trump has every right to carry out the retribution he speaks of. However, I very much doubt he'll carry out any killings.....He isn't a Clinton you know (tongue in cheek). Notable point is that Trump never went after Hilary when...if he'd been like these democrats he had options he could have chased. I stated long before this that the Democrats should never have
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jul 24 7.40pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
That is the same as it has always been. There has always been immunity for Presidents so none of this is news. One can only imagine the amount of illegal acts. Whilst in office. Concerning affairs of state. Not concerning issues concerned as a candidate for re-election.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jul 24 7.52pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
That is the same as it has always been. There has always been immunity for Presidents so none of this is news. One can only imagine the amount of illegal acts. Yep....it's why Blair, Campbell and Bush and co...even Obama aren't in jail.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jul 24 7.52pm |
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The Democrats have NOT prosecuted Trump. The US Justice Dept has indicted him and the State of New York has successfully prosecuted him. NOT the Democratic Party. He can, and has, mounted a defence. And lost. He can delay justice by prevarication and appeals. Something others cannot afford. Now the SCOTUS has issued him a new toolbox to give his lawyers enough scope to avoid almost any prosecution if it can be dressed up as being part of an official day and have also denied access to any and all records. You couldn’t make this up! No one would believe you! He could, if he did get back into the WH, really shoot someone on 5th Avenue, claim he did it whilst on official duty, and not be prosecuted.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jul 24 7.58pm |
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These are lies and everybody knows it. When in office Trump WON'T be using the office seal of state to prosecute his enemies either. However, just as has happened here the end result will be the same. The probable difference being that Trump will be more successful at it as the Democrats and their allies really pushed the boat out. They better hope that no email trails exist or that their intelligence agents in their agencies didn't record what happened as a defence trading mechanism for later use. I suspect that happened....always does. Winter is coming for the Democrats. 'Stupid is as stupid does.' Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jul 2024 8.11pm)
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Teddy Eagle  01 Jul 24 8.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The Democrats have NOT prosecuted Trump. The US Justice Dept has indicted him and the State of New York has successfully prosecuted him. NOT the Democratic Party. He can, and has, mounted a defence. And lost. He can delay justice by prevarication and appeals. Something others cannot afford. Now the SCOTUS has issued him a new toolbox to give his lawyers enough scope to avoid almost any prosecution if it can be dressed up as being part of an official day and have also denied access to any and all records. You couldn’t make this up! No one would believe you! He could, if he did get back into the WH, really shoot someone on 5th Avenue, claim he did it whilst on official duty, and not be prosecuted. The DoJ made a decision with which you agree.
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cryrst  The garden of England 01 Jul 24 8.40pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When did sniffing perfume and cuddling become paedophilia? Other, of course, in the copy of the right wing media and those that suck up their dross. Trying to overturn a legitimate election result is an extremely heinous crime, in my view. For which he should be tried in Court as there is grave suspicion that Trump did just that. Sniffing other peoples kids and touching them! Would you do that then wissie? If not why not ?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jul 24 9.06pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The DoJ made a decision with which you agree. The D o J has 100,000 attorneys working for it. Only the top appointments are made by the President, but its work is kept entirely separate from the Executive branch. If you believe that those 100,000 attorneys do anything other than apply the law then you are doing them a disservice. The Supreme Court was politicised by Trump. Not only with his appointments but how they were made. There are only 9 justices, 6 of whom are openly conservative, 3 of whom were appointed by Trump, the last replacing the most liberal one, Ginsberg who died. Hardly balanced or fair. Don’t give Trump evil ideas! He has enough already.
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| Teddy Eagle 01 Jul 24 9.16pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The D o J has 100,000 attorneys working for it. Only the top appointments are made by the President, but its work is kept entirely separate from the Executive branch. If you believe that those 100,000 attorneys do anything other than apply the law then you are doing them a disservice. The Supreme Court was politicised by Trump. Not only with his appointments but how they were made. There are only 9 justices, 6 of whom are openly conservative, 3 of whom were appointed by Trump, the last replacing the most liberal one, Ginsberg who died. Hardly balanced or fair. Don’t give Trump evil ideas! He has enough already. Ginsberg should have retired during Obama's tenure but insisted on staying. Sounds familiar.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jul 24 9.19pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Sniffing other peoples kids and touching them! Would you do that then wissie? If not why not ? I used to own a nursery. Some of the kids treated me like an honorary grandad and would often run and cuddle me before they went home, with their parents there of course. It’s not unnatural to provide reassurance and support to kids. I also worked for many years alongside perfumers so understand very well how some are instinctively drawn by particular perfumes. It’s the job of the perfumer to create aromas that do that. Not me by the way. Not my thing. However, whilst it was certainly unwise to be videoed like that, and allow all the negative assertions to be made, there is no reason at all to make any kind of assumptions.
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