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 Matov  12 Oct 20 7.30am |
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Originally posted by matthau
Well said
And neither do many on the left. A more peaceful world, which we live in at the moment compared to what has happened over the last 20 years, robs them of the chance to protest. Denies them the dopamine hit they crave because they have nothing to be 'anti' anymore. Thats why they actually prefer political leadership that drops bombs on innocent parties. They like being outraged and whilst Trump might spout off a lot of hot air the reality is that he has denied them many of the finest moments in terms of being 'anti-war'. The Media love wars because if it bleeds, it leads. And the Left miss wars because they need to the opportunity to virtue signal. No fun in peace agreement is there? Or in US troop withdrawals from the Middle East?. Or drones not dropping missiles on wedding partys? Where is the buzz in all that stability?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Oct 20 9.06am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
This being the case its trump who has calmed down the world.(apart from dem states) The very person you constantly find fault in. Peace in the middle east is growing because of trump. Because of Trump? You confuse him taking credit with reality! He does it all the time doesn't he? Anything positive, his work! Anything negative, someone else's responsibility! He is at it again now, with Covid 19. He gets a mild infection, as most do, and claims he is cured because of his own work. The 200,000+ who have died in the USA are nothing to do with him. That's China's fault. In this case supporting the disgraceful Netanyahu and sucking up to the gulf dictators isn't a real policy. It might have produced a calm, but it's likely to be the calm before the storm. In the meantime the people suffer. In this case I truly hope I am wrong but observing Trump as I do I very much doubt it. Nothing he ever does is ever for others. It's only ever for himself and if the appearance of peace helps him then that's what he will present.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Oct 20 9.11am |
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Originally posted by Matov
And neither do many on the left. A more peaceful world, which we live in at the moment compared to what has happened over the last 20 years, robs them of the chance to protest. Denies them the dopamine hit they crave because they have nothing to be 'anti' anymore. Thats why they actually prefer political leadership that drops bombs on innocent parties. They like being outraged and whilst Trump might spout off a lot of hot air the reality is that he has denied them many of the finest moments in terms of being 'anti-war'. The Media love wars because if it bleeds, it leads. And the Left miss wars because they need to the opportunity to virtue signal. No fun in peace agreement is there? Or in US troop withdrawals from the Middle East?. Or drones not dropping missiles on wedding partys? Where is the buzz in all that stability?
Another one who believes in conspiracy theories! There are several woven into this which would stand a good chance of winning an award for "BS of the year".
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| Spiderman Horsham 12 Oct 20 9.34am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Another one who believes in conspiracy theories! There are several woven into this which would stand a good chance of winning an award for "BS of the year". No they would be, at best, runner up to some of your posts. Funny hoe everything you don’t like to hear is a conspiracy theory, whilst everything you want to hear is the truth.
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| matthau South Croydon 12 Oct 20 10.11am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Because of Trump? You confuse him taking credit with reality! He does it all the time doesn't he? Anything positive, his work! Anything negative, someone else's responsibility! Didn’t you see the welcome trump got from the Saudis? The sword dance has never been offered to a us president before. Major stuff happening behind the scenes. This is also why, in retrospect, trump stood ‘rudely’ in front of our queen. And ever since they’ve been dropping info thru the press to get us ready for them to be finished. Even talk of Buckingham palace to be sold.
In this case supporting the disgraceful Netanyahu and sucking up to the gulf dictators isn't a real policy. It might have produced a calm, but it's likely to be the calm before the storm. In the meantime the people suffer. In this case I truly hope I am wrong but observing Trump as I do I very much doubt it. Nothing he ever does is ever for others. It's only ever for himself and if the appearance of peace helps him then that's what he will present.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Oct 20 10.12am |
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Trump is a dictator and has been ordering strikes in the Middle East from the outset of his presidency. 'Google' it and there are plenty of examples and the UK and France is involved too. It is not welcome news anymore particularly after the vote against Cameron's planned excursion into Syria was defeated in 2015, so reporting is suppressed. I wouldn't be surprised if he can order air strikes without consulting us except out of politeness.
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| matthau South Croydon 12 Oct 20 10.13am |
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Originally posted by matthau
Oh and check the official deaths from the cdc over last four years. 2.8 m each year and this year is no higher at all. In fact less this year than last four years Watch those clips
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Oct 20 12.15pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
No they would be, at best, runner up to some of your posts. Funny hoe everything you don’t like to hear is a conspiracy theory, whilst everything you want to hear is the truth. My opinions on what is true are based on facts. Either things that are self-evident because they are said by Trump himself, or have been fact-checked by others. That I then go on to express an opinion about what may be the consequences doesn't turn them into conspiracy theories. They clearly remain an opinion. A conspiracy theory isn't based on anything at all except someone's imagination. Although they are presented as factual, when they are checked they inevitably are shown to be false. Viral conspiracy theories are a modern-day plague infecting the impressionable via the internet. They are a really dangerous development which is reaching epidemic proportions and are being promulgated by malign influences who wish to see the western democracies fail. Those who believe them are assisting in that process.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Oct 20 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by matthau
Oh and check the official deaths from the cdc over last four years. 2.8 m each year and this year is no higher at all. In fact less this year than last four years Watch those clips Totally untrue. You are spreading lies. Firstly, Covid 19 is entirely a 2020 problem and the 2020 statistics are not yet available, for obvious reasons. That's not to say that some information isn't available. Check this site and look at the graph for weekly deaths. There is a clear rise as the virus took hold, which has declined as summer progressed. Much as it has here, but all the indications are that the second wave is underway and so the death rate will climb again. Though with better medical knowledge not to the same levels.
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BlueJay  UK 12 Oct 20 4.35pm |
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Originally posted by matthau
Oh and check the official deaths from the cdc over last four years. 2.8 m each year and this year is no higher at all. In fact less this year than last four years Mortality in the U.S. was more than 280,000 higher during the first eight months of 2020 than any of the previous five years over the same period On a basic level, being that there's a pandemic (in which hundreds of thousands have died stateside, plus no doubt many others due to delays on cancer treatments and the like) why would there be this push or belief to deny that more people have died so far this year?
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| matthau South Croydon 12 Oct 20 5.37pm |
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Where’s the extra 200,000? Also check attached screenshot
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Attachment: | Spiderman Horsham 12 Oct 20 6.29pm |
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Originally posted by matthau
Where’s the extra 200,000? Also check attached screenshot
You do realise you will be whipping up some frenzied replies don’t you
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