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 Badger11  Beckenham 15 Nov 19 7.48am |
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Originally posted by dollardays
I tend to agree that the policy is a bit silly. It's certainly like a headline grabber but one that people will laugh at rather than take seriously. On top of that, you have to wonder what free broadband would mean for the jobs of people working at the countless other broadband companies out there. As you say too, this is a fast moving area. In the next few years more of more of us will be moving away from phone lines, and broadband connections and towards 5G options and mobile only households. Even if this policy had merits it's come years too late anyway. We do have an infrastructure problem in this country in that sense Labour are correct they just have the wrong solution. They would be better off telling the mobile phone and internet companies that they must eliminate the black spots. I would have no problem if Labour forced these companies to work together or lose their license. And yes you could throw some money at it as a sweetener to the companies. Anyone for Betamax?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 15 Nov 19 7.49am |
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Originally posted by sickboy
Received a whatsapp yesterday on how to explain the labour party to children. Get your child to clean the bathroom amd pay them £10. LOL
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| Invalid user 2019 15 Nov 19 7.58am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
We do have an infrastructure problem in this country in that sense Labour are correct they just have the wrong solution. They would be better off telling the mobile phone and internet companies that they must eliminate the black spots.I would have no problem if Labour forced these companies to work together or lose their license. And yes you could throw some money at it as a sweetener to the companies. Anyone for Betamax? Yes, if the approach was industry wide and genuinely improved the reach of high speed internet for all I can see sense in that as a policy. That would be the rational way to go about this. Instead they've gone for the headline grabber, but it appears to have backfired. Though in such a pivotal election we had better get used to parties left, right and centre promising us the earth. On the plus side, if we play our cards right and hit up the right contacts we may be able to get someone on HOL a peerage!
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| Badger11 Beckenham 15 Nov 19 8.12am |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Yes, if the approach was industry wide and genuinely improved the reach of high speed internet for all I can see sense in that as a policy. That would be the rational way to go about this. Instead they've gone for the headline grabber, but it appears to have backfired. Though in such a pivotal election we had better get used to parties left, right and centre promising us the earth. On the plus side, if we play our cards right and hit up the right contacts we may be able to get someone on HOL a peerage! If the main political parties would just grow up we could have a National Infrastructure Planning Board. It would be independent like the Bank Of England and would have responsibility for future planning across all major sectors like water, gas, electricity, railways etc. So regardless of who was in power they would commit to following the plan, maybe they would be quicker or slower than another party but they would not be unravelling previous work just because it was the other party. Political parties don't do long term planning I get that so recognise that and leave it to a non partisan body. No chance of this ever happening though it's all knee-jerk and headline grabbing. Edited by Badger11 (15 Nov 2019 8.13am)
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| .TUX. 15 Nov 19 8.13am |
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Originally posted by sickboy
Received a whatsapp yesterday on how to explain the labour party to children. Get your child to clean the bathroom amd pay them £10. An old analogy used in the past to describe bank 'bail-outs' along with forced 'austerity'. But i'm glad it made you smile
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| Matov 15 Nov 19 8.59am |
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Originally posted by dollardays
I tend to agree that the policy is a bit silly. It's certainly like a headline grabber but one that people will laugh at rather than take seriously. Not so sure. Labour has to get out younger voters if it is to stand any chance. This is the kind of bribe, and let's be honest about what it is, that might grab their attention given how much of their lives are spent online these days. I reckon there might be a something similar touted about mobile phone data at some stage soon. Not sure how might word that one but shiny tech presents have an impact. Credit where it is due, Labour might have a hook here.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 15 Nov 19 9.21am |
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Originally posted by Matov
Not so sure. Labour has to get out younger voters if it is to stand any chance. This is the kind of bribe, and let's be honest about what it is, that might grab their attention given how much of their lives are spent online these days. I reckon there might be a something similar touted about mobile phone data at some stage soon. Not sure how might word that one but shiny tech presents have an impact. Credit where it is due, Labour might have a hook here. It's certainly eye catching it also does a huge solid to the BT unions. If I am correct BT is saddled with a hugely costly physical infrastructure that will be obsolete in a few years which means no need for BT engineers. This is a clever way of keeping them employed whilst throwing the public a bone.
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| chris123 hove actually 15 Nov 19 9.33am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
If the main political parties would just grow up we could have a National Infrastructure Planning Board. It would be independent like the Bank Of England and would have responsibility for future planning across all major sectors like water, gas, electricity, railways etc. So regardless of who was in power they would commit to following the plan, maybe they would be quicker or slower than another party but they would not be unravelling previous work just because it was the other party. Political parties don't do long term planning I get that so recognise that and leave it to a non partisan body. No chance of this ever happening though it's all knee-jerk and headline grabbing. Edited by Badger11 (15 Nov 2019 8.13am) Bit surprised Labour haven't got better, less risky things to spend our money on.
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| Stirlingsays 15 Nov 19 12.17pm |
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Labour are so generous that I'm thinking perhaps we should tell them what they need to offer to buy our vote. Perhaps free mortgage payments with a year's worth of professional back massage thrown in. Or at least TV 't1ts out' weather girls for the next five years. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2019 12.18pm)
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| Midlands Eagle 15 Nov 19 12.42pm |
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I now that it's trendy nowadays to sport several days of stubble but Len McCuskey being interviewed last night looked more like a dirty tramp with his unshaven face.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Nov 19 12.52pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I now that it's trendy nowadays to sport several days of stubble but Len McCuskey being interviewed last night looked more like a dirty tramp with his unshaven face. Some might conclude that Mr Corbyn fits this description.
Edited by Willo (15 Nov 2019 12.53pm)
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| Lyons550 Shirley 15 Nov 19 3.08pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Labour now offering free broadband by nationalising part of BT I presume they mean Openreach. Assuming that they will compensate BT that will cost billions which would be better spent on the infrastructure rather than the shareholders. Also I am not sure that this is the right move. 5G offers the real possibility of doing away with landlines fibre or coaxial and should be a cheaper solution for the countryside. It's an attractive vote winner but I think it's a poison chalice, this may mean Labour investing in fibre optic when 5G wireless is the way to go. Not to mention the Starlight project from Elon Musk which if it works will deliver the internet from satellites to every part of the world, he just launched 60 of them. Labour maybe backing the wrong horse. BT are not outraged by the suggestion, do they suspect that their technology will be worthless in a few years?
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