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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Jun 20 12.04am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The man had the balls to do what the cowards running the Police don't. f* these people. I agree. But they probably have the wrong police there. Need more Public Order or riot trained police in there. All they have are police who stop you in your car or call for backup to stop one or two people in the street. They’re outnumbered without anything to use. Only going to go one way. COYP**
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Jun 20 12.04am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The man had the balls to do what the cowards running the Police don't.

f*** these people.

I agree. But they probably have the wrong police there. Need more Public Order or riot trained police in there. All they have are police who stop you in your car or call for backup to stop one or two people in the street. They’re outnumbered without anything to use. Only going to go one way.

COYP

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Teddy Eagle 08 Jun 20 12.06am
Originally posted by DanH So did Jimmy Savile. Except what this Bristol man did was legal at the time.
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Teddy Eagle

08 Jun 20 12.06am

Originally posted by DanH

So did Jimmy Savile.

Except what this Bristol man did was legal at the time.

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cryrst The garden of England 08 Jun 20 12.10am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Except what this Bristol man did was legal at the time. That really is the point. Didnt the pharaohs use slaves! Maybe the pyramids need to go. Funny yes but where the f*** does this end.
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cryrst

The garden of England 08 Jun 20 12.10am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Except what this Bristol man did was legal at the time.

That really is the point.
Didnt the pharaohs use slaves! Maybe the pyramids need to go. Funny yes but where the f*** does this end.

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DanH SW2 08 Jun 20 12.14am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Except what this Bristol man did was legal at the time. So slavery was OK because it was legal at the time? Sure you want to stick your neck out on that one?
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DanH

SW2 08 Jun 20 12.14am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Except what this Bristol man did was legal at the time.

So slavery was OK because it was legal at the time? Sure you want to stick your neck out on that one?

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Teddy Eagle 08 Jun 20 12.23am
Originally posted by DanH So slavery was OK because it was legal at the time? Sure you want to stick your neck out on that one? I wouldn’t want to judge previous generations by today’s standards. Was slavery OK? No. Was making children work in factories and mills and mines? No, but these things happened. Why hide it? As the Americans say, we should own it and move on.
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Teddy Eagle

08 Jun 20 12.23am

Originally posted by DanH

So slavery was OK because it was legal at the time? Sure you want to stick your neck out on that one?

I wouldn’t want to judge previous generations by today’s standards.
Was slavery OK? No. Was making children work in factories and mills and mines? No, but these things happened. Why hide it?
As the Americans say, we should own it and move on.

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DanH SW2 08 Jun 20 12.26am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle I wouldn’t want to judge previous generations by today’s standards. Was slavery OK? No. Was making children work in factories and mills and mines? No, but these things happened. Why hide it? As the Americans say, we should own it and move on. It’s not hiding it by not having a statue of a slave owner there any longer. History belongs in museums. Statues are supposed to commemorate good.
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SW2 08 Jun 20 12.26am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It’s not hiding it by not having a statue of a slave owner there any longer. History belongs in museums. Statues are supposed to commemorate good.

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Teddy Eagle 08 Jun 20 12.38am
Originally posted by DanH It’s not hiding it by not having a statue of a slave owner there any longer. History belongs in museums. Statues are supposed to commemorate good. What are the rules on statues? I don’t know. There are over18,000,000 slaves in India. That bothers me more than a 200 year old statue of a man I’ve never heard of before.
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08 Jun 20 12.38am

Originally posted by DanH

It’s not hiding it by not having a statue of a slave owner there any longer. History belongs in museums. Statues are supposed to commemorate good.

What are the rules on statues? I don’t know.
There are over18,000,000 slaves in India. That bothers me more than a 200 year old statue of a man I’ve never heard of before.

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cryrst The garden of England 08 Jun 20 5.35am
Originally posted by DanH It’s not hiding it by not having a statue of a slave owner there any longer. History belongs in museums. Statues are supposed to commemorate good. Where is the evidence that the people who have been requesting its removal asked for that to happen,just one piece of evidence. There is none I reckon. Not once would that have been middle ground. It's gone now and will cost £1000s to retrieve and repair the damage. Then as soon as its put in a museum it will be attacked again. Like it would have been if it was in a museum already. Socialism is on the march and you know what, stick it up your arse when it gets here danh as you will be paying because you work. Your views on the righteous nature you perceive it is will change very quickly as you've never seen it in action. Once your money is gone and your saved things are gone the reality will hit.
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cryrst

The garden of England 08 Jun 20 5.35am

Originally posted by DanH

It’s not hiding it by not having a statue of a slave owner there any longer. History belongs in museums. Statues are supposed to commemorate good.

Where is the evidence that the people who have been requesting its removal asked for that to happen,just one piece of evidence. There is none I reckon. Not once would that have been middle ground. It's gone now and will cost £1000s to retrieve and repair the damage. Then as soon as its put in a museum it will be attacked again. Like it would have been if it was in a museum already.
Socialism is on the march and you know what, stick it up your arse when it gets here danh as you will be paying because you work. Your views on the righteous nature you perceive it is will change very quickly as you've never seen it in action.
Once your money is gone and your saved things are gone the reality will hit.

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Badger11 Beckenham 08 Jun 20 7.54am
Originally posted by DanH If you read up on it there have been attempts to have it removed by the proper channels for years. This isn’t trying to erase history. Statues are meant to be for those to be idolised. If you are comfortable with a statue for someone who made a fortune out of slavery then that should really make you worry. I already told you I couldn't care less about the statue I am not defending it or slavery I am defending law and order against anarchy. You say attempts have been made to remove it legally, so the local Labour council hasn't been listening to the people? And what if a group decide they don't like the statue of Nelson Mandela? it's okay to tear that down as well? No I didn't think so. I predict now that this is setting an example and other statues will be torn down if they happen to be favourites of the left they will be outraged. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 08 Jun 20 7.54am

Originally posted by DanH

If you read up on it there have been attempts to have it removed by the proper channels for years.

This isn’t trying to erase history. Statues are meant to be for those to be idolised. If you are comfortable with a statue for someone who made a fortune out of slavery then that should really make you worry.

I already told you I couldn't care less about the statue I am not defending it or slavery I am defending law and order against anarchy.

You say attempts have been made to remove it legally, so the local Labour council hasn't been listening to the people?

And what if a group decide they don't like the statue of Nelson Mandela? it's okay to tear that down as well? No I didn't think so.

I predict now that this is setting an example and other statues will be torn down if they happen to be favourites of the left they will be outraged.

One more point

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Spiderman Horsham 08 Jun 20 8.34am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC mmmmm I’m not sure this is as controversial as you’re making out Criminal act aside, no one seems to be saying ‘erase history’ - or that the simple act of removing a slave traders statue, seemingly a symbol of celebration of murder and tyranny, equals that? There are plenty of celebrated and also controversial and horrendous historical figures that don’t have statues and are heavily prominent in written and taught history. They don’t have statues. Does that mean they’re erased from history? Bit of a silly point. Not sure I get the argument As for Churchill - I’m not sure that statue will be pulled down anytime soon. He should be remembered and revered with a statue but he’s not as squeaky clean and good ol England as some might like to make out. Nor was Nelson Mandela, has his statue been defaced? I think I know the answer Edited by Spiderman (08 Jun 2020 8.35am)
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Horsham 08 Jun 20 8.34am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

mmmmm

I’m not sure this is as controversial as you’re making out

Criminal act aside, no one seems to be saying ‘erase history’ - or that the simple act of removing a slave traders statue, seemingly a symbol of celebration of murder and tyranny, equals that?

There are plenty of celebrated and also controversial and horrendous historical figures that don’t have statues and are heavily prominent in written and taught history. They don’t have statues. Does that mean they’re erased from history? Bit of a silly point.

Not sure I get the argument

As for Churchill - I’m not sure that statue will be pulled down anytime soon. He should be remembered and revered with a statue but he’s not as squeaky clean and good ol England as some might like to make out.

Nor was Nelson Mandela, has his statue been defaced? I think I know the answer

Edited by Spiderman (08 Jun 2020 8.35am)

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Spiderman Horsham 08 Jun 20 8.38am
Originally posted by Lucretius Like, also, the idea that that it's wrong for the public to remove a piece of public property seems contradictory. It was in a public space. The public rose up and took it down. Awesome. Taking ownership of the city. What a bizarre last sentence
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Horsham 08 Jun 20 8.38am

Originally posted by Lucretius

Like, also, the idea that that it's wrong for the public to remove a piece of public property seems contradictory.

It was in a public space. The public rose up and took it down.

Awesome. Taking ownership of the city.

What a bizarre last sentence

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Spiderman Horsham 08 Jun 20 8.41am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Haha Alternative views are what make for great debate However whatever the view, it should at least be a worthy contribution rather than recycled rhetoric from whatever targeted social media certain individuals had been reading 5 minutes before hand. Even worse when it’s reposted constantly as a form of propaganda communication Do you think the same about DanH? Probably not Edited by Spiderman (08 Jun 2020 9.00am)
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Spiderman

Horsham 08 Jun 20 8.41am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Haha

Alternative views are what make for great debate

However whatever the view, it should at least be a worthy contribution rather than recycled rhetoric from whatever targeted social media certain individuals had been reading 5 minutes before hand. Even worse when it’s reposted constantly as a form of propaganda communication

Do you think the same about DanH? Probably not

Edited by Spiderman (08 Jun 2020 9.00am)

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