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 cryrst  The garden of England 31 Oct 20 7.50pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Would you trust a government that can't even hold a news conference on time? 99% chance of surviving but a lot higher chance of long covid. That's not a scam.
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Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 31 Oct 20 8.09pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Would you trust a government that can't even hold a news conference on time? Do you know why the press conference was delayed? No? Me neither. Maybe they all went to the pub while they could? Or maybe they needed to confer with others in the devolved administrations who weren't immediately available, before announcing it? What seems most likely to you? Losing your livelihood is not the end of your life. It happens for a variety of reasons and good people recover and rebuild, normally without the level of support now available. In contrast as dying from Covid really is the end of your life I think a little more perspective is required. Your comment on "communism" is ridiculous.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 31 Oct 20 8.09pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
99% chance of surviving but a lot higher chance of long covid. That's not a scam. Then go the whole hog? Ban cigarettes & pipe tobacco & while your at it ban liquor add on unhealthy fast foods as well because just these 3 things alone will & do kill more people than Covid.
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| cryrst The garden of England 31 Oct 20 8.31pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Then go the whole hog? Ban cigarettes & pipe tobacco & while your at it ban liquor add on unhealthy fast foods as well because just these 3 things alone will & do kill more people than Covid. Some are glass half full,some are glass half empty, yours cant make its mind up.
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| Eden Eagle Kent 31 Oct 20 8.39pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Do you know why the press conference was delayed? No? Me neither. Maybe they all went to the pub while they could? Or maybe they needed to confer with others in the devolved administrations who weren't immediately available, before announcing it? What seems most likely to you? Losing your livelihood is not the end of your life. It happens for a variety of reasons and good people recover and rebuild, normally without the level of support now available. In contrast as dying from Covid really is the end of your life I think a little more perspective is required. Your comment on "communism" is ridiculous. Hmm Wisbot - so if someone has just lost their job, with very little chance of getting another one and is likely to be made homeless as they cannot pay their mortgage your words of comfort will be “at least your not dead”. Then you can remind them that “good people” recover and rebuild and normally without the level of support you are going to get. What about “non good people “ -(whatever it is you mean by that phrase) - what happens to them? Have you ever been made redundant? Do you have any perspective of the real world that so many people are currently facing due to the economic catastrophe being wrought - you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding and empathy.
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 31 Oct 20 8.48pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Do you know why the press conference was delayed? No? Me neither. Maybe they all went to the pub while they could? Or maybe they needed to confer with others in the devolved administrations who weren't immediately available, before announcing it? What seems most likely to you? Losing your livelihood is not the end of your life. It happens for a variety of reasons and good people recover and rebuild, normally without the level of support now available. In contrast as dying from Covid really is the end of your life I think a little more perspective is required. Your comment on "communism" is ridiculous. Loads of 'Whataboutery' as usual from the Sage of St Austell.
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| BlueJay UK 31 Oct 20 8.49pm |
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Originally posted by Eden Eagle
Hmm Wisbot - so if someone has just lost their job, with very little chance of getting another one and is likely to be made homeless as they cannot pay their mortgage your words of comfort will be “at least your not dead”. Then you can remind them that “good people” recover and rebuild and normally without the level of support you are going to get. What about “non good people “ -(whatever it is you mean by that phrase) - what happens to them? Have you ever been made redundant? Do you have any perspective of the real world that so many people are currently facing due to the economic catastrophe being wrought - you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding and empathy. Be sure to apply the same standard to the repeated 'they'd have died soon anyway' type comments aimed at elderly people dying of covid that are common currency on here, or some clearly not giving a damn when people advocating wearing masks receive a vicious beating. There is certainly a lack of empathy, and its from multiple directions.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Oct 20 8.53pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Then go the whole hog? Ban cigarettes & pipe tobacco & while your at it ban liquor add on unhealthy fast foods as well because just these 3 things alone will & do kill more people than Covid. No resource anywhere, in any circumstances, ever provides boundless supplies for unpredictable demands. Having large hospitals and trained staff standing idle in all but exceptional circumstances would, rightly, be regarded as inefficient.
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| cryrst The garden of England 31 Oct 20 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by Eden Eagle
Hmm Wisbot - so if someone has just lost their job, with very little chance of getting another one and is likely to be made homeless as they cannot pay their mortgage your words of comfort will be “at least your not dead”. Then you can remind them that “good people” recover and rebuild and normally without the level of support you are going to get. What about “non good people “ -(whatever it is you mean by that phrase) - what happens to them? Have you ever been made redundant? Do you have any perspective of the real world that so many people are currently facing due to the economic catastrophe being wrought - you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding and empathy. I been there done that so I know and you can come back from the depths. Life throws s*** at us. Just wipe it up and crack on.
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| Eden Eagle Kent 31 Oct 20 8.56pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Be sure to apply the same standard to the repeated 'they'd have died soon anyway' type comments aimed at elderly people dying of covid that are common currency on here, or some clearly not giving a damn when people advocating wearing masks receive a vicious beating. There is certainly a lack of empathy, and its from multiple directions. That is a fair point in general but I have never said either of those things. I accept that CV is real and it is a difficult balancing act between health and economy but it does frustrate me when certain posters completely dismiss the terrible effects that losing jobs/livelihoods/ homes has on people and glibly state “economies recover” etc. It would be nice if people were able to speak about this topic in a more “ friendly” way - despite having different views on what the course of action should be.
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 31 Oct 20 9.01pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Be sure to apply the same standard to the repeated 'they'd have died soon anyway' type comments aimed at elderly people dying of covid that are common currency on here, or some clearly not giving a damn when people advocating wearing masks receive a vicious beating. There is certainly a lack of empathy, and its from multiple directions. This is the route you need to take. Wear a mask, wash your hands & have a few restrictions on the amount of people you can have say in a store Etc.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Oct 20 9.05pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Loads of 'Whataboutery' as usual from the Sage of St Austell. 99% of those infected means that keeping the infection rate low is the key. Letting the virus run amock would mean huge numbers of deaths and the NHS unable to serve those needing treatment from other things. Doing what you, and several others seem to believe is all that's needed is an incomprehensible and irresponsible attitude that would result in a much higher mortality.
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