Saying it was like a 'dare' ( coupled with the protest vote theory) is probably pretty much hitting a nail on its head. For you do a dare to stick two fingers up at others even though you know the outcome could very well mean you come off worse and with egg on yer face.

Edited by Kermit8 (18 Jun 2017 5.37pm)

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i think you'll find there are a few people saying that, but i cant say ive seen that on here.

You want us to work with you, tell us what your aims are and we'll pitch in. Balls in your court.

Yes the government should act in the nations best interests and that means not accepting the voters advice to leave the EU.

Did you forget to log out, and back into another of your sockpuppet accounts? Or is there a reason you're discussing yourself with... yourself?

Has Brexit all got a bit too much for you?

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No you* won't. We've already seen it, and continue to see it.

You will fight, squeal and whine to derail it at any opportunity, because there is no parameter space in which we can work together. May laid out her strategy and road-map for leaving the EU back in January, at the Lancaster house speech:

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Her approach is eminently sensible:

- Leave the single market, seek access to it.
- Leave the ECJ so that EU law is no longer supreme.
- Leave the customs union, to allow us to form trading partnerships and not rely on the EU to do so.
- Stop paying into the EU budget, save for certain opt-ins (those that are currently already opted-in by other non-members, H2020 being one example).

These were the substantive points from the referendum, enacted in strategy. I am totally uninterested in re-debating the referendum, and what it means to "Leave the EU". You may very well have your idea of what leaving means, but in my opinion, it is de-facto remaining.

You won't get on board, you won't "pitch in". You don't agree with it. I suspect those in power would like you on board, to make a success of it. Rather that than seek failure at every opportunity, just for the "I told you so"; I hope for all our sakes that your self-fulfilling prophecies do not self-fulfill.

Frankly, I'd rather not have your help if I were in Govt. I don't trust you, and I have little evidence to suggest I should start doing so.

We'll hold onto that ball, thanks. Possession, 9/10ths and all that.

*I refer to "you", in this post, as the collective embodiment of the now dwindling stock of remainiacs who have yet to take down the posters of Juncker, Verhofstadt and Van Rompuy from their bedroom walls.

Edited by davenotamonkey (18 Jun 2017 9.54pm)

The concept of a referendum only works where the playing field is level.

In this case people with little to lose voted in one direction and people with loads to lose the other. This was not a suitable issue for a referendum and I don't consider it a 'pure' aspect of democracy. In addition our version of democracy is intended to be representative democracy not direct democracy. The rationale for that is that it's very hard for the whole country to be properly briefed in an unbiased way when voting on crucial issues.