You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Topic
January 22 2025 7.27pm

This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.

Coronavirus (LOCKED)

Previous Topic | Next Topic


Page 653 of 1255 < 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 >

Topic Locked

Eden Eagle Flag Kent 31 Oct 20 1.33pm Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course it worked!

It brought the infection levels down to the point where, combined with better weather and the ability to live more safely outdoors, the brakes could be released.

You have no idea what might have happened without it. You can only theorise.

Trying to balance the other consequences against the potential loss of life is exactly what the government is doing. With no perfect answer, criticism is cheap and easy, from every viewpoint, as is hindsight.

What our duty has to be is to support whatever decisions are taken, whatever cost that might bring to us personally. Only if we act collectively will we minimize the impact. This is not the time for selfishness or believing we know better.

A new national lockdown is coming. It's being flagged up by the media to prepare us, so get prepared.

It will work. It will cost too, but it will work. Just remember that all but a very few can manage with less, some of us with a lot less. We must protect the very vulnerable and then hunker down again. Be kind at home. Understand and forgive. Stay in touch with friends and family. Look out for your neighbours. And for those working in the NHS, like my own wife, give thanks for their fortitude and devotion to caring or us all.

Economies recover. Dead people don't.


If your definition of working is:

Millions unemployed - mainly among the young.
Tens of thousands of businesses closing - for good.
Tens of thousands losing their homes.
Tens of thousands dying due to the NHS being closed.
Significantly increased suicide rates (including students)
Damage to peoples mental health.
Eye watering debt levels that people will be paying off for the next few decades.

A ridiculously glib statement to say that economies recover without showing some genuine empathy to the above. No doubt you have a pension to rely on so “I am alright Jack” ?

Shutting everything down will suppress the spread - that is it.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
cryrst Flag The garden of England 31 Oct 20 1.37pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The demographics this time are apparently more random, and recover quickly, due to various reasons gone over before. It’s actually good news if you appreciate elderly aren’t getting it like before.

Sorry ICU within the hospitals.
There is a reason the ages,sex and ethnic make up is held back unless they are old. Personally I think long covid is going to affect more younger people than the total deaths amongst them. I think that is what is trying to be stopped by these measures. That is going to cost a lot more in health and social care once it happens. Then it might be seen that draconian measures as is portrayed by some should have been implemented both longer and stricter. Hopefully most are past the control theories by now and understand it's about health both now and in the future.
Dead people cant pay tax.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
Eaglecoops Flag CR3 31 Oct 20 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Women aged 18-40 are being admitted to hospital in higher numbers than during the first wave. Let's leave it as is because non of us have any of those in the family.

Is that because they are all pregnant from the last lockdown?

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 31 Oct 20 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Wisbech identifies some commendable human traits, such as perseverance, tolerance, taking care of others. This virus has brought out these traits in large numbers.
However, it has also highlighted the c u n t ish behaviour of the few, who won't wear masks, crowd into supermarket aisles with their children running around, and fundamentally put others lives at risk.

I have to take precautions, as I care for my vulnerable household, but however careful you are, there are always morons ready to invade your space, not take precautions and are ignorant of the risk to wider society they present by their behaviour,.."Because I'm alright"

Winter is likely to be devastating, to many. Because the infection rate is now above the predicted "Worst case scenario" (how can that be ?), and we have (at least) another 3 days for people to spread the virus with their recklessness before they are told to stay at home.

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
Eaglecoops Flag CR3 31 Oct 20 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Sorry ICU within the hospitals.
There is a reason the ages,sex and ethnic make up is held back unless they are old. Personally I think long covid is going to affect more younger people than the total deaths amongst them. I think that is what is trying to be stopped by these measures. That is going to cost a lot more in health and social care once it happens. Then it might be seen that draconian measures as is portrayed by some should have been implemented both longer and stricter. Hopefully most are past the control theories by now and understand it's about health both now and in the future.
Dead people cant pay tax.

Unfortunately the way they are going there will be less paying tax than there are claiming benefits.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
cryrst Flag The garden of England 31 Oct 20 1.41pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle


If your definition of working is:

Millions unemployed - mainly among the young.
Tens of thousands of businesses closing - for good.
Tens of thousands losing their homes.
Tens of thousands dying due to the NHS being closed.
Significantly increased suicide rates (including students)
Damage to peoples mental health.
Eye watering debt levels that people will be paying off for the next few decades.

A ridiculously glib statement to say that economies recover without showing some genuine empathy to the above. No doubt you have a pension to rely on so “I am alright Jack” ?

Shutting everything down will suppress the spread - that is it.

This is artificial.
Where there was a coffee shop, there will be another. A gym, a deli etc.
They will return; maybe under different owners but the market will come back.
I feel for all affected and we all are tbh.
Whether financial,social or mental.
without life you got none of the above you mention

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
cryrst Flag The garden of England 31 Oct 20 1.42pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Is that because they are all pregnant from the last lockdown?

Why else indeed the randy cows

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 31 Oct 20 1.42pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Sorry ICU within the hospitals.
There is a reason the ages,sex and ethnic make up is held back unless they are old. Personally I think long covid is going to affect more younger people than the total deaths amongst them. I think that is what is trying to be stopped by these measures. That is going to cost a lot more in health and social care once it happens. Then it might be seen that draconian measures as is portrayed by some should have been implemented both longer and stricter. Hopefully most are past the control theories by now and understand it's about health both now and in the future.
Dead people cant pay tax.

I think people should look at Sweden again. Cases rising quite steeply for weeks. Deaths on the bottom. How come? What’s going on in society or reporting of Covid if it really is Covid or both?

 


COYP

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
Teddy Eagle Flag 31 Oct 20 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


An anti-lockdown view.

[Link]

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
Eaglecoops Flag CR3 31 Oct 20 1.59pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


An anti-lockdown view.

[Link]

Which will be ignored because he’s not part of the mainstream media.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
BlueJay Flag UK 31 Oct 20 2.00pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Wisbech identifies some commendable human traits, such as perseverance, tolerance, taking care of others. This virus has brought out these traits in large numbers.
However, it has also highlighted the c u n t ish behaviour of the few, who won't wear masks, crowd into supermarket aisles with their children running around, and fundamentally put others lives at risk.

I have to take precautions, as I care for my vulnerable household, but however careful you are, there are always morons ready to invade your space, not take precautions and are ignorant of the risk to wider society they present by their behaviour,.."Because I'm alright"

At least you're looking out for those important to you mate. I wish you all the best in getting through this difficult time in good health.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 31 Oct 20 3.06pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

If the first lock down(supposedly)didn't work? What makes anyone think a second,third, fourth, fifth one will?


A further lockdown is to get on top of the surge in cases and prevent an exponential rise, which would be catastrophic for the NHS and the Country. It is not intended to be the complete answer to the virus or the pandemic, which when the first lockdown was introduced it was hoped it would be.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post

Topic Locked

Page 653 of 1255 < 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 >

Previous Topic | Next Topic

You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Topic