I couldn’t agree more. Country being run by junk science modellers who can’t stop meddling. They’ll do this and I guarantee do nothing to make it a smooth move. I’ve seen queuing outside supermarkets go as soon as masks became mandatory and at the start of the first wave there was no queuing or product limits. They won’t work with or advise on a local level regarding supplying people in need, unless they feel because they’re allowed out now there’s no point. But if they believe this 4,000 number and bodies are going to be stacking up in hospital car parks, then surely they’ll address it.

I wait to see what they do that is a substantial government Covid policy improvement during this lockdown, because it’s no doubt been decided for Boris that there will be one. May as well have Max Headroom as PM or go for the biggest clamour stirred up by whichever group gathers the most attention at the time.

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I’ve already posted half a dozen bodies with completely different opinions. Are you saying you believe the 4,000 number after this week SAGE had the daily fear bulletin with them saying the curve will be a flat horizontal line with much lower death numbers but the line goes on for longer.’

Did you believe that as well? You can’t believe both. Well you can, but people will put people straight who believe all of this guff every day.

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The figures and trends are a huge concern and I imagine data Coming in but not yet released is what has alarmed the Government into this urgent action. Not acting will be far more of a disgrace than sitting on their hands, seeing if things improve and then getting absolutely slaughtered by everyone with wonderful hindsight for not doing more sooner!

I think a lot of people feel the complete opposite.
The rolling seven day average clearly shows that hospital admissions and deaths as a result of Covid-19 are on a steep increase.
The new tier arrangements are not having the desired affect, that is obvious and to think otherwise is wrong and naive. Any delay in taking further action will have very serious consequences. I personally think a much, much stricter following and enforcement of the restrictions would have negated the need for a second National Lockdown but unfortunately I think it is too late to try that tack at the present time.

This national lockdown will be be brought in to try and stem the surge again, (like the previous one did) it is not about ending the crisis, we are a long way off from that. The fear is that this surge in cases will result in an exponential rise in cases/hospitalisation, which the NHS will not be able to cope with, resulting in a much more serious breakdown of wider medical care.

We are much more informed and certainly more experienced to deal with treatment and hospital care but I fear we are not going to be as resilient a second time round. Our fantastic health professionals have not recovered from the fist peak in cases and I don’t think there is the capacity or ability both physically and mentally to deal with a second peak (over the winter months) as well as they did the first. They know what it is like and what is potentially coming and I think we would struggle massively with a second peak in terms of their well being, resilience and ability to go the extra mile that quite clearly kept us afloat the first time round.

Edited by Phil’s Barber (31 Oct 2020 11.00am)

You are believing charts,info and professionals like me I guess. Because I believe different ones doesnt make me wrong. It could be that your are wrong and I'm sure leaving it as it is would suit you just fine. Sadly though you cannot turn the clock back on death but you can rebuild business and your mental wellbeing if your not dead.

I can see you’ll go for the worst case the government and media tell you. What when it’s proven to be bullsh1t? Remember this prediction, I mean ‘scenario’?.....

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