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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 16 Sep 15 8.08pm

I'm not known for my New Left sympathies. But the criticism of Corbyn seems to be akin to the anti-Farage nonsense. Who cares if he did not sing a song. Prime Minister's Question Time was far better than usual with policies and their results being calmly discussed.

Corbyn is far more Old Labour than New Left/Lib, which is good. His focus on trade union rights and working people is to be welcomed. If only he would drop his New Left stances on Irish and Palestinian terrorism and be sensible about immigration and benefits, he would be a candidate for my vote. If he does come out against the EU, he will definitely get my vote.

 


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-TUX- Flag Alphabettispaghetti 16 Sep 15 8.13pm Send a Private Message to -TUX- Add -TUX- as a friend

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I kinda figured, what with you being such an avid campaigner and all that, you'd welcome the views of the electorate being aired.

I've not complained about the views of the electorate being aired.But 6 questions hardly reflect the public mood !

I would far rather Paxman ask the PM and really 'grill' him on his answers.Not "Comrade Corbyn" with his form of extreme socialism who just asks questions and never "drills down" into the reply.All very bland and soporific.



Obviously they do to many.

You look forward to PMQ's purely for the 'theatrical element'.
Go watch a play.

No, I look forward to PMQs for the cut and thrust of lively debate triggered by questions to the PM.


The cut and thrust of lively debate?
Most would call it 'taking the p-iss' (hardly a debate) in the pub. The difference is that those in the pub aren't paid to be there and the beer is a helluva lot dearer than the House of Commons..........funny that


 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 8.33pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote -TUX- at 16 Sep 2015 8.13pm

Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 7.11pm

Quote -TUX- at 16 Sep 2015 6.46pm

Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 6.28pm

Quote -TUX- at 16 Sep 2015 6.17pm

I kinda figured, what with you being such an avid campaigner and all that, you'd welcome the views of the electorate being aired.

I've not complained about the views of the electorate being aired.But 6 questions hardly reflect the public mood !

I would far rather Paxman ask the PM and really 'grill' him on his answers.Not "Comrade Corbyn" with his form of extreme socialism who just asks questions and never "drills down" into the reply.All very bland and soporific.



Obviously they do to many.

You look forward to PMQ's purely for the 'theatrical element'.
Go watch a play.

No, I look forward to PMQs for the cut and thrust of lively debate triggered by questions to the PM.


The cut and thrust of lively debate?
Most would call it 'taking the p-iss' (hardly a debate) in the pub. The difference is that those in the pub aren't paid to be there and the beer is a helluva lot dearer than the House of Commons..........funny that


We are totally on the opposite sides of the "House" on this one with NO chance of there ever being a defection !


 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 8.37pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 8.08pm

Corbyn is far more Old Labour than New Left/Lib, which is good. His focus on trade union rights and working people is to be welcomed. If only he would drop his New Left stances on Irish and Palestinian terrorism and be sensible about immigration and benefits, he would be a candidate for my vote. If he does come out against the EU, he will definitely get my vote.

"Comrade Corbyn" embodies a form of extreme Socialism so old that people seem to have forgotten how dangerous it can be. The hard-left policies of envy and social division involving high taxation of the middle classes, ruinous public spending, reckless borrowing and kow-towing to trade union power etc etc etc. What a great leap backwards for 'Labour'.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Sep 15 8.54pm

Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 8.37pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 8.08pm

Corbyn is far more Old Labour than New Left/Lib, which is good. His focus on trade union rights and working people is to be welcomed. If only he would drop his New Left stances on Irish and Palestinian terrorism and be sensible about immigration and benefits, he would be a candidate for my vote. If he does come out against the EU, he will definitely get my vote.

"Comrade Corbyn" embodies a form of extreme Socialism so old that people seem to have forgotten how dangerous it can be. The hard-left policies of envy and social division involving high taxation of the middle classes, ruinous public spending, reckless borrowing and kow-towing to trade union power etc etc etc. What a great leap backwards for 'Labour'.


Nothing of substance in that response willo.

 

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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 8.37pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 8.08pm

Corbyn is far more Old Labour than New Left/Lib, which is good. His focus on trade union rights and working people is to be welcomed. If only he would drop his New Left stances on Irish and Palestinian terrorism and be sensible about immigration and benefits, he would be a candidate for my vote. If he does come out against the EU, he will definitely get my vote.

"Comrade Corbyn" embodies a form of extreme Socialism so old that people seem to have forgotten how dangerous it can be. The hard-left policies of envy and social division involving high taxation of the middle classes, ruinous public spending, reckless borrowing and kow-towing to trade union power etc etc etc. What a great leap backwards for 'Labour'.


The same thing trotted out time after time.
Why is it ALWAYS ''envy'' to you Willo?

 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 16 Sep 15 9.06pm

Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 8.37pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 8.08pm

Corbyn is far more Old Labour than New Left/Lib, which is good. His focus on trade union rights and working people is to be welcomed. If only he would drop his New Left stances on Irish and Palestinian terrorism and be sensible about immigration and benefits, he would be a candidate for my vote. If he does come out against the EU, he will definitely get my vote.

"Comrade Corbyn" embodies a form of extreme Socialism so old that people seem to have forgotten how dangerous it can be. The hard-left policies of envy and social division involving high taxation of the middle classes, ruinous public spending, reckless borrowing and kow-towing to trade union power etc etc etc. What a great leap backwards for 'Labour'.

I certainly don't support his New Left policies and am contemptuous of most New Left ideas. However, I certainly support trade unions, to whom ordinary working people owe their betterment over the years. The Tories in the past have opposed every measure that would have helped ordinary people: abolition of child labour; votes for working men; trade union rights; state funded education; old age pensions; votes for women; National Health Service - it's hard to think of one measure put forward by the Tories that has benefited ordinary working people.

Tory/New Labour economics have not been very successful in recent years, nor have the privatised railways and utilities. What you call 'hard-left' could be applied to the post-war Labour government - the most left wing government we have ever had, and they didn't do so bad.

What we need them to drop is all the New Left bollocks - uncontrolled immigration; multi-culturalism; support of the EU; pandering to terrorism; USA hatred; unilateral nuclear disarmament, etc

Edited by leggedstruggle (16 Sep 2015 9.45pm)

 


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Quote nickgusset at 16 Sep 2015 8.54pm

Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 8.37pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 8.08pm

Corbyn is far more Old Labour than New Left/Lib, which is good. His focus on trade union rights and working people is to be welcomed. If only he would drop his New Left stances on Irish and Palestinian terrorism and be sensible about immigration and benefits, he would be a candidate for my vote. If he does come out against the EU, he will definitely get my vote.

"Comrade Corbyn" embodies a form of extreme Socialism so old that people seem to have forgotten how dangerous it can be. The hard-left policies of envy and social division involving high taxation of the middle classes, ruinous public spending, reckless borrowing and kow-towing to trade union power etc etc etc. What a great leap backwards for 'Labour'.


Nothing of substance in that response willo.

Nothing of "Substance" in the current Labour opposition under "Comrade Corbyn".
Feeble opposition and Governments of whatever political persuasion need effective oppositions.

Anyway, off to bed now !


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He gets my vote

 

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Cameron's point scoring and constant emphasis on the economy may become a little tiring and the Tories may have to rethink their leadership soon enough. May make Corbyn seem like a political genius and genuine reformer whilst revealing the Tories as the 'crab people' they really are.

What a lot of hogwash.
I thought this was a serious debate.


It is hardly hogwash that every answer from Cameron, about any subject, harps on about how wonderful the Tories are with the economy - which they are not. They are simply running the country whilst the global economy is coming out of a recession. Bascially the only way is up when there is a low starting point. Don't worry though - the next recession will come soon enough and austerity and cuts will not make a blind bit of difference.
What is required is an integrated social policy and an enforceable minimum standard of living throughout the UK. That way the people are sheilded from the fluctuations of the global economy. As for speculating that the Tories will need a new leader - that is hardly the first time that this has been brought up, Cameron is hardly great is he? Perhaps you want Boris? Which is basically a more embarrassing choice than Corbyn, in my opinion.
As for 'Crab people' - do you not think that the tories take their human skin off after a hard day in the commons bar and reveal ther true form of 'crab people'? They certainly seem far removed from normal human-beings but I suppose 10 years at Eton or Gordonstone would do that to people.

 


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After listening to a few radio programmes yesterday, I agree with DanH. The phony outrage over the national anthem stuff is pathetic.

Amber Rudd was banging on about it on the World at One. Pouring slime over Corbyn in a fit of phony outrage, pretending he was some kind of traitor.

Amber Rudd. Worked as a consultant at JP Morgan. Then at a Venture Capital fund. Then she ran a financial headhunting company.

If she ever sang the national anthem, except at a rugby match, before she went into politics, I'll eat my hat.

 


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Quote ASCPFC at 17 Sep 2015 10.45am

It is hardly hogwash that every answer from Cameron, about any subject, harps on about how wonderful the Tories are with the economy - which they are not.

Yes they are.

We've seen 1,000 new jobs every single day this Government has been in office; There has been a cut in income tax for over 26 million people, helping them keep more of the money they earn; The Government have cut the deficit by half as a share of our economy and the plan is to get in the black this Parliament so Britain can once again live within its means.

The Government are building a strong economy so we can secure the future of everyone in our country - whether that's by investing in our NHS, giving our children a good education or looking after the elderly in our society.

I could go on and on with more facts and figures and provide more examples but I am just about to go out to Worthing !


Edited by Willo (17 Sep 2015 11.02am)

 

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