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BlueJay UK 30 Oct 20 10.30pm
Originally posted by Eden Eagle This is from the 15th September!! Go ahead and find others that are within the last week as you say “it is very easy”.. So now you've gone from saying "every test centre appears to be deserted!!" to an updated 'oh well maybe some were heaving in September BUT NOW ANYMORE!!' This is getting silly. Of course there are going to be more pictures from September on account that the spread of the virus increased at the time so it was noteworthy to highlight. They're not required to place daily 'testing centres are still real and active' updates for the benefit of people who disbelieve. Of course testing capacity is now up, but testing centres are there for the benefit of people requiring tests. Some are busier than others. It's nuts to infer nobody is getting tested in them. Edited by BlueJay (30 Oct 2020 10.31pm)
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BlueJay

UK 30 Oct 20 10.30pm

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

This is from the 15th September!! Go ahead and find others that are within the last week as you say “it is very easy”..

So now you've gone from saying "every test centre appears to be deserted!!" to an updated 'oh well maybe some were heaving in September BUT NOW ANYMORE!!' This is getting silly.

Of course there are going to be more pictures from September on account that the spread of the virus increased at the time so it was noteworthy to highlight. They're not required to place daily 'testing centres are still real and active' updates for the benefit of people who disbelieve. Of course testing capacity is now up, but testing centres are there for the benefit of people requiring tests. Some are busier than others. It's nuts to infer nobody is getting tested in them.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Oct 20 10.31pm
Sunderland. Empty. He has a walk round in the thread. [Tweet Link] COYP
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Caterham 30 Oct 20 10.31pm

Sunderland. Empty. He has a walk round in the thread.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Oct 20 10.35pm
Originally posted by BlueJay So now you've gone from saying "every test centre appears to be deserted!!" to an updated 'oh well maybe some were heaving in September BUT NOW ANYMORE!!' This is getting silly. Of course there are going to be more pictures from September on account that the spread of the virus increased at the time so it was noteworthy to highlight. They're not required to place daily 'testing centres are still real and active' updates for the benefit of people who disbelieve. Of course testing capacity is now up, but testing centres are there for the benefit of people requiring tests. Some are busier than others. It's nuts to infer nobody is getting tested in them. Edited by BlueJay (30 Oct 2020 10.31pm) So according to you it was growing and spreading then but not now, or something. Can’t make out your point. Claims the virus is growing but of course test centres were busy 2 weeks ago as opposed to now. Tomorrow there will be test centres filmed all over the place. We wait for pro-lockdowners to prove the busy sites. They’re very committed to government control so I’m sure they’d step up for their cause. We’ll see. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 30 Oct 20 10.35pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

So now you've gone from saying "every test centre appears to be deserted!!" to an updated 'oh well maybe some were heaving in September BUT NOW ANYMORE!!' This is getting silly.

Edited by BlueJay (30 Oct 2020 10.31pm)

So according to you it was growing and spreading then but not now, or something. Can’t make out your point. Claims the virus is growing but of course test centres were busy 2 weeks ago as opposed to now.

Tomorrow there will be test centres filmed all over the place. We wait for pro-lockdowners to prove the busy sites. They’re very committed to government control so I’m sure they’d step up for their cause. We’ll see.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 30 Oct 20 10.54pm
Originally posted by BlueJay I was making a simple point about showing compassion for others in the way that we refer to such a sad event. I found "People die, that's life." directed to someone going through this to be in bad taste. That is all. Edited by BlueJay (29 Oct 2020 11.53pm) Simple is exactly it. I will walk you through this, as I have had to in the past. W12 was posting various links opposing lockdown. Mapletree rebuffed them citing his mother(who died from lack of care, not c-19), and W12 said, quite correctly, people die. You then intrude, as normal, and condemned him for mentioning death to someone who has experienced just that. Mapletree was the person who brought in the personal side of it by mentioning his mother, and also included phil the barber's mother. If you don't like that, tough. Bad taste, so what? I can see no reason in your outrage. You are merely one of the victims to succumb to the mass hysteria of the media. You reject offhand any alternative view, and rely on what SAGE say. Regardless of SAGE being an appointed body, by a government that clearly has not not a clue. Try to think for yourself. Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Originally posted by BlueJay

I was making a simple point about showing compassion for others in the way that we refer to such a sad event. I found "People die, that's life." directed to someone going through this to be in bad taste. That is all.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Oct 2020 11.53pm)

Simple is exactly it. I will walk you through this, as I have had to in the past. W12 was posting various links opposing lockdown. Mapletree rebuffed them citing his mother(who died from lack of care, not c-19), and W12 said, quite correctly, people die. You then intrude, as normal, and condemned him for mentioning death to someone who has experienced just that. Mapletree was the person who brought in the personal side of it by mentioning his mother, and also included phil the barber's mother.

If you don't like that, tough. Bad taste, so what? I can see no reason in your outrage. You are merely one of the victims to succumb to the mass hysteria of the media. You reject offhand any alternative view, and rely on what SAGE say. Regardless of SAGE being an appointed body, by a government that clearly has not not a clue. Try to think for yourself.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Oct 20 10.58pm
[Link] Have a listen to this 13 minute interview on 28 mins with a private doctor who’s done tests so is in contact with patients and the situation. Good point on the bbc and in particular Panorama not questioning any of the issues. Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Oct 2020 11.06pm) COYP
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Have a listen to this 13 minute interview on 28 mins with a private doctor who’s done tests so is in contact with patients and the situation. Good point on the bbc and in particular Panorama not questioning any of the issues.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 30 Oct 20 11.06pm
Originally posted by Mapletree There was neglect but the Coroner would not pursue it. It is politically unsound to critique Care Homes right now. Maybe you don’t notice that many of my posts contain quotes from research documents. It is risible to suggest I don’t debate on the facts. I cannot say you show much empathy. Mothers can be important to some people. I have empathy for your loss. But there is a difference between dying from it, and dying because of it. I could argue that without a lockdown your mother would still be alive. If that sounds harsh, I'm not sure that others whose loved ones died in similar circumstances would agree. It is sad that your mother passed away, and I hope that you all are well otherwise. Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 30 Oct 20 11.06pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

There was neglect but the Coroner would not pursue it. It is politically unsound to critique Care Homes right now.

Maybe you don’t notice that many of my posts contain quotes from research documents. It is risible to suggest I don’t debate on the facts.

I cannot say you show much empathy. Mothers can be important to some people.

I have empathy for your loss. But there is a difference between dying from it, and dying because of it. I could argue that without a lockdown your mother would still be alive. If that sounds harsh, I'm not sure that others whose loved ones died in similar circumstances would agree.

It is sad that your mother passed away, and I hope that you all are well otherwise.

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Teddy Eagle 30 Oct 20 11.14pm
Could be another lockdown on the way. [Link]
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Could be another lockdown on the way.

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BlueJay UK 30 Oct 20 11.15pm
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Simple is exactly it. I will walk you through this, as I have had to in the past. W12 was posting various links opposing lockdown. Mapletree rebuffed them citing his mother(who died from lack of care, not c-19), and W12 said, quite correctly, people die. You then intrude, as normal, and condemned him for mentioning death to someone who has experienced just that. Mapletree was the person who brought in the personal side of it by mentioning his mother, and also included phil the barber's mother. If you don't like that, tough. Bad taste, so what? I can see no reason in your outrage. You are merely one of the victims to succumb to the mass hysteria of the media. You reject offhand any alternative view, and rely on what SAGE say. Regardless of SAGE being an appointed body, by a government that clearly has not not a clue. Try to think for yourself. I'm not days on bothering to interact with you about something so sad when it was unfortunate enough that it became a topic to dissect first time around. Get your thrills elsewhere. Edited by BlueJay (30 Oct 2020 11.16pm)
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BlueJay

UK 30 Oct 20 11.15pm

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

I'm not days on bothering to interact with you about something so sad when it was unfortunate enough that it became a topic to dissect first time around. Get your thrills elsewhere.

Edited by BlueJay (30 Oct 2020 11.16pm)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Oct 20 11.21pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Could be another lockdown on the way. [Link] I am convinced a Lockdown will be announced to commence in midweek. What a horrible 2020 it has been all-round. Edited by Willo (30 Oct 2020 11.22pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Oct 20 11.21pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Could be another lockdown on the way.

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I am convinced a Lockdown will be announced to commence in midweek.
What a horrible 2020 it has been all-round.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 30 Oct 20 11.25pm
Originally posted by BlueJay I'm not days on bothering to interact with you about something so sad when it was unfortunate enough that it became a topic to dissect first time around. Get your thrills elsewhere. Edited by BlueJay (30 Oct 2020 11.16pm) I have no idea what you actually meant, you seem incapable of coherent thought, so if you don't reply ever again, I'm ok with that. Your disjointed thought process would interest a psychologist though. They may even give you remuneration. Who knows? Good luck anyway. Have a fine life. Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 30 Oct 20 11.25pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

I'm not days on bothering to interact with you about something so sad when it was unfortunate enough that it became a topic to dissect first time around. Get your thrills elsewhere.

Edited by BlueJay (30 Oct 2020 11.16pm)

I have no idea what you actually meant, you seem incapable of coherent thought, so if you don't reply ever again, I'm ok with that. Your disjointed thought process would interest a psychologist though. They may even give you remuneration. Who knows? Good luck anyway. Have a fine life.

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BlueJay UK 30 Oct 20 11.26pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman So according to you it was growing and spreading then but not now, or something. Can’t make out your point. Claims the virus is growing but of course test centres were busy 2 weeks ago as opposed to now. I'm not saying it's slowing at all. I'm saying that the numbers and hence testing ramped up hugely in September, from very quiet months previous. As such it would make rational sense that it would be a news story and that there would be busy queues being photographed to illiterate that. Also they were on the backfoot, and now capacity has increased. The vast majority of people are not needing constant reassurance that people are using testing sites beyond that because they know that they are. They're not driving around the country photographing queues to talk fringe types out of delusions, they getting on with their lives. Quote Tomorrow there will be test centres filmed all over the place. We wait for pro-lockdowners to prove the busy sites. They’re very committed to government control so I’m sure they’d step up for their cause. We’ll see. You're posting echo chamber Twitter posts from people desperate to believe that every single aspect of what is happening is a government conspiracy or lie. They are not looking, nor at all interested in posting anything other than finding testing stations that are empty during time of filming (nor are you). Doing so would undermine their own paranoid outlook, and they have reached their conclusions by doing the exact opposite. You went on a 'empty testing centre' posting spree the moment I posted requested links to busy test site queue images. Moments earlier you'd questioned the very existence of busy testing sites. Edited by BlueJay (30 Oct 2020 11.45pm)
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UK 30 Oct 20 11.26pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I'm not saying it's slowing at all. I'm saying that the numbers and hence testing ramped up hugely in September, from very quiet months previous. As such it would make rational sense that it would be a news story and that there would be busy queues being photographed to illiterate that. Also they were on the backfoot, and now capacity has increased. The vast majority of people are not needing constant reassurance that people are using testing sites beyond that because they know that they are. They're not driving around the country photographing queues to talk fringe types out of delusions, they getting on with their lives.

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Tomorrow there will be test centres filmed all over the place. We wait for pro-lockdowners to prove the busy sites. They’re very committed to government control so I’m sure they’d step up for their cause. We’ll see.

You're posting echo chamber Twitter posts from people desperate to believe that every single aspect of what is happening is a government conspiracy or lie. They are not looking, nor at all interested in posting anything other than finding testing stations that are empty during time of filming (nor are you). Doing so would undermine their own paranoid outlook, and they have reached their conclusions by doing the exact opposite. You went on a 'empty testing centre' posting spree the moment I posted requested links to busy test site queue images. Moments earlier you'd questioned the very existence of busy testing sites.

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BlueJay UK 30 Oct 20 11.42pm
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 I have no idea what you actually meant, you seem incapable of coherent thought, so if you don't reply ever again, I'm ok with that. Your disjointed thought process would interest a psychologist though. They may even give you remuneration. Who knows? Good luck anyway. Have a fine life. Calm down. I said that I found the comment "People die, that's life" to someone talking about losing their mother to be in bad taste. Or according to you 'quite correct'. I'm obviously not debating the factual basis that people die, I'm saying it's unfeeling. If you want to harass me over such a benign opinion for multiple days feel free. It's to be expected. And It's quite clear - not incoherent - I'm saying dissecting tremendously sad occurrences within peoples families isn't my bag, so trying to draw people back into a discussion about it days later isn't going to happen. Spewing bile at me because you don't get your way won't get you anywhere I'm afraid. Edited by BlueJay (31 Oct 2020 12.05am)
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UK 30 Oct 20 11.42pm

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Calm down. I said that I found the comment "People die, that's life" to someone talking about losing their mother to be in bad taste. Or according to you 'quite correct'. I'm obviously not debating the factual basis that people die, I'm saying it's unfeeling. If you want to harass me over such a benign opinion for multiple days feel free. It's to be expected.

And It's quite clear - not incoherent - I'm saying dissecting tremendously sad occurrences within peoples families isn't my bag, so trying to draw people back into a discussion about it days later isn't going to happen. Spewing bile at me because you don't get your way won't get you anywhere I'm afraid.

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