Both are nonsense. What the shower arrangements might be where Biden lives, visits or otherwise uses is irrelevant to the behaviour. We don’t know and it doesn’t matter.

Nor do these persistent slurs about him “sniffing hair”. Who knows what motivates that? Some people like to identify perfume. Others just like to experience it. There is no reason to assume any kind of inappropriateness. It was careless, given the way it was interpreted, but that’s all it was. He is a kindly grandfather type who shows affection towards kids. We used to celebrate such attributes, rather than suspect them, and as a man of a similar age I resent being suspected.

Ffs Wissie you have reached a new low here. I am also a grandfather of a certain age, to accept this sort of behaviour is weird. If it had been Trump I wonder what your thoughts would be

What is weird is to think it’s weird, without knowing the context. It might be. It probably isn’t. All we have are selected clips from videos. Clips selected by those trying to show Biden in the worst possible light. Give me enough time and enough videos and I could find ways to make the most innocent behaviour of just about anyone look suspicious.

If it was Trump I would respond in exactly the same way. I see many distortions of Trump’s behaviour on sites you probably never use. They are ignored by me. Especially as there is more than enough elsewhere to reach an opinion. Most of which comes straight out of his own mouth or from his own hand.

Was it at their house? Was it at any house?

I showered many times with my whole family on the beach after swimming or snorkelling. Dressed precisely the same way as when in the sea.

Too many assumptions have been made about what was meant by the words. We don’t know and will probably never know. All that helps are her own remarks about the interpretations being false and hurtful.

Was it at their house? Was it at any house?

I showered many times with my whole family on the beach after swimming or snorkelling. Dressed precisely the same way as when in the sea.

Too many assumptions have been made about what was meant by the words. We don’t know and will probably never know. All that helps are her own remarks about the interpretations being false and hurtful.