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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 24 2.58pm
Originally posted by Bexley Eagle Too many senior players below par this tournament Kane - either he’s injured or his legs are gone. I am more mobile than him. Walker - he’s quick, but otherwise f***ing useless. Bellingham - I give him his credit he run himself into the ground. But apart from the odd flash was way below par. Rice - he can’t pass wind. Saka - the best of a poor front 4. Foden - had 10 good minutes in the semi final. Was he actually on the pitch the rest of the tournament. The only players who leave with their reputations enhanced are Geuhi Mainoo - should be the future along with Wharton Watkins And Pickford. Overall a completely I memorable tournament that could have been so different if Geuhi’s header was a foot either way and Stones had smaller knees. Fine margins indeed Came across this whilst browsing . . . [Link] This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 24 2.58pm

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Too many senior players below par this tournament

Kane - either he’s injured or his legs are gone. I am more mobile than him.
Walker - he’s quick, but otherwise f***ing useless.
Bellingham - I give him his credit he run himself into the ground. But apart from the odd flash was way below par.
Rice - he can’t pass wind.
Saka - the best of a poor front 4.
Foden - had 10 good minutes in the semi final. Was he actually on the pitch the rest of the tournament.

The only players who leave with their reputations enhanced are

Geuhi
Mainoo - should be the future along with Wharton
Watkins
And Pickford.

Overall a completely I memorable tournament that could have been so different if Geuhi’s header was a foot either way and Stones had smaller knees. Fine margins indeed

Came across this whilst browsing . . . [Link]

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 24 3.48pm
Originally posted by Bexley Eagle Too many senior players below par this tournament Kane - either he’s injured or his legs are gone. I am more mobile than him. Walker - he’s quick, but otherwise f*ing useless. Bellingham - I give him his credit he run himself into the ground. But apart from the odd flash was way below par. Rice - he can’t pass wind. Saka - the best of a poor front 4. Foden - had 10 good minutes in the semi final. Was he actually on the pitch the rest of the tournament. The only players who leave with their reputations enhanced are Geuhi Mainoo - should be the future along with Wharton Watkins And Pickford. Overall a completely I unmemorable tournament that could have been so different if Geuhi’s header was a foot either way** and Stones had smaller knees. Fine margins indeed Edited by Bexley Eagle (15 Jul 2024 3.11pm) I'm biased of course but I was more concentrated on the fact that Rice, who looked very immature in this tournament, had a free run at his header, plenty of time to think about it and directed it straight at the keeper. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 24 3.48pm

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Too many senior players below par this tournament

The only players who leave with their reputations enhanced are

Geuhi
Mainoo - should be the future along with Wharton
Watkins
And Pickford.

Overall a completely I unmemorable tournament that could have been so different if Geuhi’s header was a foot either way and Stones had smaller knees. Fine margins indeed

Edited by Bexley Eagle (15 Jul 2024 3.11pm)

I'm biased of course but I was more concentrated on the fact that Rice, who looked very immature in this tournament, had a free run at his header, plenty of time to think about it and directed it straight at the keeper.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Jul 24 3.58pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 I'm biased of course but I was more concentrated on the fact that Rice, who looked very immature in this tournament, had a free run at his header, plenty of time to think about it and directed it straight at the keeper. Had Rice headed the ball downwards, the goalkeeper might not have been able to keep the ball out. As the saying goes "It was a good height for the keeper".
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Jul 24 3.58pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Had Rice headed the ball downwards, the goalkeeper might not have been able to keep the ball out. As the saying goes "It was a good height for the keeper".

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 24 4.07pm
Originally posted by Willo Had Rice headed the ball downwards, the goalkeeper might not have been able to keep the ball out. As the saying goes "It was a good height for the keeper". And straight at him Willo! The phrase 'literally anywhere else' springs to mind... and within the confines of the posts/crossbar of course Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 24 4.07pm

Originally posted by Willo

Had Rice headed the ball downwards, the goalkeeper might not have been able to keep the ball out. As the saying goes "It was a good height for the keeper".

And straight at him Willo!

The phrase 'literally anywhere else' springs to mind... and within the confines of the posts/crossbar of course

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 15 Jul 24 4.31pm
Made me laugh, I think it was Didi hamann the old Liverpool player chose his worst 10 games of the tournament, now I know he’s a German enjoying sticking the boot in while we’re down, but all seven of Englands games were in his worst ten, can’t argue really, I think every game I must have said imagine being a neutral watching this s***
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Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 15 Jul 24 4.31pm

Made me laugh, I think it was Didi hamann the old Liverpool player chose his worst 10 games of the tournament, now I know he’s a German enjoying sticking the boot in while we’re down, but all seven of Englands games were in his worst ten, can’t argue really, I think every game I must have said imagine being a neutral watching this s***

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Cannonball High in the Ozarks. 15 Jul 24 4.41pm
Did the best with the players we had, but I cant understand all the hype about Bellingham, he seems like an average player at best (not good enough for Glasner's Eagles) Touch my coffee and I will slap you so hard even Google won't be able to find you.
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Cannonball

High in the Ozarks. 15 Jul 24 4.41pm

Did the best with the players we had, but I cant understand all the hype about Bellingham, he seems like an average player at best (not good enough for Glasner's Eagles)

Touch my coffee and I will slap you so hard even Google won't be able to find you.

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 15 Jul 24 4.49pm
Originally posted by Cannonball Did the best with the players we had, but I cant understand all the hype about Bellingham, he seems like an average player at best (not good enough for Glasner's Eagles) Certainly not the same player who was a machine for Real Madrid last season. Clearly he was shattered for England and the long season had caught up with him. I know most players have long seasons for their clubs, but he’s an engine room type player and in the thick of it every game and he must’ve clocked up some miles last season
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monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 15 Jul 24 4.49pm

Originally posted by Cannonball

Did the best with the players we had, but I cant understand all the hype about Bellingham, he seems like an average player at best (not good enough for Glasner's Eagles)

Certainly not the same player who was a machine for Real Madrid last season. Clearly he was shattered for England and the long season had caught up with him. I know most players have long seasons for their clubs, but he’s an engine room type player and in the thick of it every game and he must’ve clocked up some miles last season

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Jul 24 4.56pm
Originally posted by Cannonball Did the best with the players we had, but I cant understand all the hype about Bellingham, he seems like an average player at best (not good enough for Glasner's Eagles) Bellingham certainly did not live up to his billing, however other players who have impressed at their respective clubs failed to replicate these performances at the tournament. The narrative seems to be forming whereby culpability is being laid firmly at the door of Southgate in terms of team selection, tactics and substitutions. One can possess all the ingredients but sometimes the souffle fails to rise and of course the Chef takes the blame ! Edited by Willo (15 Jul 2024 5.01pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Jul 24 4.56pm

Originally posted by Cannonball

Did the best with the players we had, but I cant understand all the hype about Bellingham, he seems like an average player at best (not good enough for Glasner's Eagles)

Bellingham certainly did not live up to his billing, however other players who have impressed at their respective clubs failed to replicate these performances at the tournament.
The narrative seems to be forming whereby culpability is being laid firmly at the door of Southgate in terms of team selection, tactics and substitutions.

One can possess all the ingredients but sometimes the souffle fails to rise and of course the Chef takes the blame !

Edited by Willo (15 Jul 2024 5.01pm)

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dreamwaverider London 15 Jul 24 4.57pm
Originally posted by Goal Machine Interesting. I feel that either Potter, Howe or Poch would be a huge upgrade on Southgate. If he wanted it, Howe would be my pick. Lee Carsley has no top level experience, so he'll probably get the gig. My views on Southgate are the same as most on here. Clearly an articulate and nice bloke who the players seems to like. However, he doesn't have the tactical knowledge to get the best out of his excellent squad. In fact, he's nowhere near. Despite getting to the final (somehow), I think this is our worst tournament performance under him. There appears to be a negative mindset - opposite of how they all play for their clubs - ingrained in the squad. We've seen it time and time again with England and we don't learn. There was a 3 minute spell after we scored where we looked like we had momentum and before you know it we're sitting back trying to absorb pressure. That winning goal was coming and it was deserved. As some of the pundits have said, Spain winning was good for football. Southgate, please resign. I would put Thomas Frank in the pot.
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Originally posted by Goal Machine

Interesting. I feel that either Potter, Howe or Poch would be a huge upgrade on Southgate. If he wanted it, Howe would be my pick.

Lee Carsley has no top level experience, so he'll probably get the gig.

My views on Southgate are the same as most on here. Clearly an articulate and nice bloke who the players seems to like. However, he doesn't have the tactical knowledge to get the best out of his excellent squad. In fact, he's nowhere near.

Despite getting to the final (somehow), I think this is our worst tournament performance under him. There appears to be a negative mindset - opposite of how they all play for their clubs - ingrained in the squad. We've seen it time and time again with England and we don't learn. There was a 3 minute spell after we scored where we looked like we had momentum and before you know it we're sitting back trying to absorb pressure. That winning goal was coming and it was deserved.

As some of the pundits have said, Spain winning was good for football. Southgate, please resign.

I would put Thomas Frank in the pot.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 24 5.18pm
Originally posted by Willo Bellingham certainly did not live up to his billing, however other players who have impressed at their respective clubs failed to replicate these performances at the tournament. The narrative seems to be forming whereby culpability is being laid firmly at the door of Southgate in terms of team selection, tactics and substitutions. One can possess all the ingredients but sometimes the souffle fails to rise and of course the Chef takes the blame ! Edited by Willo (15 Jul 2024 5.01pm) The plus side to this is our very own Marc Guehi has been named in the team of the tournament. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 24 5.18pm

Originally posted by Willo

One can possess all the ingredients but sometimes the souffle fails to rise and of course the Chef takes the blame !

Edited by Willo (15 Jul 2024 5.01pm)

The plus side to this is our very own Marc Guehi has been named in the team of the tournament.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Jul 24 5.27pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 The plus side to this is our very own Marc Guehi has been named in the team of the tournament. Our "Very own" at the moment !
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Jul 24 5.27pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

The plus side to this is our very own Marc Guehi has been named in the team of the tournament.

Our "Very own" at the moment !

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Painter Croydon 15 Jul 24 5.52pm
Originally posted by Bexley Eagle Too many senior players below par this tournament Kane - either he’s injured or his legs are gone. I am more mobile than him. Walker - he’s quick, but otherwise f***ing useless. Bellingham - I give him his credit he run himself into the ground. But apart from the odd flash was way below par. Rice - he can’t pass wind. Saka - the best of a poor front 4. Foden - had 10 good minutes in the semi final. Was he actually on the pitch the rest of the tournament. The only players who leave with their reputations enhanced are Geuhi Mainoo - should be the future along with Wharton Watkins And Pickford. Overall a completely I unmemorable tournament that could have been so different if Geuhi’s header was a foot either way and Stones had smaller knees. Fine margins indeed Edited by Bexley Eagle (15 Jul 2024 3.11pm) I disagree, the Mainoo kid is very overrated, he actually contributed nothing in any game he played. Each game he was replaced by Palmer and within seconds we looked a better team. Team selection was Southgate's downfall, his loyalty to Kane, when everyone could see he was struggling and keep playing Rice who plays so deep and generally passes backwards, slows England down. Wharton isn't quite ready yet and was better not being associated with failure at this stage of his career.
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Painter

Croydon 15 Jul 24 5.52pm

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Too many senior players below par this tournament

The only players who leave with their reputations enhanced are

Geuhi
Mainoo - should be the future along with Wharton
Watkins
And Pickford.

Overall a completely I unmemorable tournament that could have been so different if Geuhi’s header was a foot either way and Stones had smaller knees. Fine margins indeed

Edited by Bexley Eagle (15 Jul 2024 3.11pm)

I disagree, the Mainoo kid is very overrated, he actually contributed nothing in any game he played. Each game he was replaced by Palmer and within seconds we looked a better team. Team selection was Southgate's downfall, his loyalty to Kane, when everyone could see he was struggling and keep playing Rice who plays so deep and generally passes backwards, slows England down. Wharton isn't quite ready yet and was better not being associated with failure at this stage of his career.

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