A right to a neo nazi mother and father too apparently

Bingo

On the contrary, I rather find that I support telling the truth about the realities of families that will be encountered regardless of a personal like or dislike of them.

What I took from the exchange and indeed what is the reality of it, is that despite your apparent 'concern', it is a provable statement of fact that a neo nazi couple naming their baby Adolf, idolising Hitler, posing in front of swaztikas and stating that they would be willing to murder a mixed race child 'didn't meet your threshold for removing the child because no-one had been physically hurt.'

Thankfully they were later imprisoned for various crimes including researching how to make a viable bomb, so any stamp of parental approval is nul and void anyway.

..and yet, who'd have thought, despite the actions of these extremists, it's in fact me that's somehow "a collaborator to a soft form of child abuse" because I don't object to same sex couples raising a child. It's such a completely absurd stance to take, that there's really little left to say about it.

If you want to tack on some kind of laughable 'did it even happen like that' level 'government conspiracy' against this neo nazi family, then great. As I said before, you appear to be willing to give every single benefit of the doubt to a neo nazi 'family', and yet view same sex couples raising children as an act of 'child abuse'. Stormfront level debating.

Answered in the previous message. Zero manipulation and the distortion is yours alone. A statement of fact.

'despite your apparent 'concern', it is a provable statement of fact that a neo nazi couple naming their baby Adolf, idolising Hitler, posing in front of swaztikas and stating that they would be willing to murder a mixed race child >still< 'didn't meet your threshold for removing the child because no-one had been physically hurt.'

If you don't want people to comment on statements that you make, then don't make them. If you're going to hold hardcore and out there beliefs, be prepared to accept what they actually mean within the context of your other professed views. If they appear ludicrous positions to hold side by side... because they are.. that's not my problem.

I've spent too long talking about this, so will conclude with this. If you're angered by the idea of a kid having same sex parents, that's for you. Thankfully that's where your influence and somewhat authoritarian wishes towards these families begins and ends. At the end of the day if you want your kids to learn in school, or to be home-schooled for whatever reason, that's entirely up to you isn't it. I, for one, am not looking to stand in the way of other peoples' family arrangements.

Edited by dollardays (29 May 2019 3.23am)

I’m beginning to think 5 is too young, or am I? A mention of it being a thing I think at some point in primary school but not going too far with it.

COYP

Is this really something only Muslims have the balls to protest about?

Where are the catholics?

Where are the Christians in general?

Where are the social conservatives of any degree who disagree with this.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Put your toys back in the pram.

Again..

'despite your apparent 'concern', it is a provable statement of fact that a neo nazi couple naming their baby Adolf, idolising Hitler, posing in front of swaztikas and stating that they would be willing to murder a mixed race child >still< 'didn't meet your threshold for removing the child because no-one had been physically hurt.'

You said that it didn't meet your threshold for removing the child because no-one had been physically hurt.' AFTER you had expressed 'concern'. This is fact, this is reality. Anything to the contrary is a lie of yours and thinking that the child should stay with this nazi family, and to be angered by potential 'indocrination' it will receive when it's removed is indeed a 'hardcore belief'. Even now, you can barely bring yourself to call an extremist neo nazi family, with their bomb making research, and ideas about killing a mixed race child anything other than 'idiotic', and yet with a same sex arrangement agreed by those involved, it's the encouragement of 'child abuse' to you. An utterly bizarre and contorted prioritisation of empathy and child safety.

Oh and by the way, I said that teaching should be age appropriate. I haven't at any point even said that 5 year olds 'should' be taught anything, just that where they are, a threatening religious mob shouldn't be the reason that a program is stopped. It has been running for years. It's not something suddenly being thrust on this community, which is how it's presented. I objected to your overblown 'take my kids out of school' reaction, sudden complete about turn ingratiation of the religious sensitivities of this Muslim community just because you agree with them on this one issue, and absurd juxtaposition of the fact that you had previously staunchly defended the right of clearly dangerous neo nazi extremists to raise a child while having such a problem with any same sex couples doing so. Your scope for what you wish to allow or deny in both cases is extreme and your anemic sense of fairness rests on 'principles' that when it comes down to it only ever appear to apply to other peoples lives.

The narcissists stance is of course either 'right' or 'misrepresented'. Again, if you have a problem with how absurdly your beliefs sit together, that's not my problem.

If you want me to 'go away' or to 'go and be pathetic with someone else' then stop replying to me. It's not difficult.

Edited by dollardays (29 May 2019 1.49pm)

With respect Becky, the excesses of Islam are hardly something you need to express to me.

Christianity teaches no promotion of homosexuality or alternative lifestyles to a man and woman.

Jesus directly refers to man/woman relationships and no other.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 May 2019 12.57pm)

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