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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 6.14pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

At the end of the day Corbyn engaged in defensive politics, was totally unambitious and played for a draw. If this continues it will be less relevant to public opinion as less people will watch it.

Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 6.14pm)

 

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-TUX- Flag Alphabettispaghetti 16 Sep 15 6.17pm Send a Private Message to -TUX- Add -TUX- as a friend

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I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.

Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.

Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.

Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)


Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.

I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.

Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.



You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.

I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.

Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !



oh yeah I see what you mean....Blair v Duncan Smith, Brown v Cameron, Milliband v Cameron, Blair v Hague, Blaizzzzzzzzzzz

Far better than what we witnessed today.


I kinda figured, what with you being such an avid campaigner and all that, you'd welcome the views of the electorate being aired. Wrong colour perhaps?


Personally i enjoyed it. It was a big breath of fresh air.


 


Time to move forward together.

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Sep 15 6.22pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Cameron's point scoring and constant emphasis on the economy may become a little tiring and the Tories may have to rethink their leadership soon enough. May make Corbyn seem like a political genius and genuine reformer whilst revealing the Tories as the 'crab people' they really are.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 6.28pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote -TUX- at 16 Sep 2015 6.17pm

I kinda figured, what with you being such an avid campaigner and all that, you'd welcome the views of the electorate being aired.

I've not complained about the views of the electorate being aired.But 6 questions hardly reflect the public mood !

I would far rather Paxman ask the PM and really 'grill' him on his answers.Not "Comrade Corbyn" with his form of extreme socialism who just asks questions and never "drills down" into the reply.All very bland and soporific.


 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote ASCPFC at 16 Sep 2015 6.22pm

Cameron's point scoring and constant emphasis on the economy may become a little tiring and the Tories may have to rethink their leadership soon enough. May make Corbyn seem like a political genius and genuine reformer whilst revealing the Tories as the 'crab people' they really are.

What a lot of hogwash.
I thought this was a serious debate.


 

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-TUX- Flag Alphabettispaghetti 16 Sep 15 6.46pm Send a Private Message to -TUX- Add -TUX- as a friend

Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 6.28pm

Quote -TUX- at 16 Sep 2015 6.17pm

I kinda figured, what with you being such an avid campaigner and all that, you'd welcome the views of the electorate being aired.

I've not complained about the views of the electorate being aired.But 6 questions hardly reflect the public mood !

I would far rather Paxman ask the PM and really 'grill' him on his answers.Not "Comrade Corbyn" with his form of extreme socialism who just asks questions and never "drills down" into the reply.All very bland and soporific.



Obviously they do to many.

You look forward to PMQ's purely for the 'theatrical element'.
Go watch a play.

 


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OldFella Flag London 16 Sep 15 6.51pm Send a Private Message to OldFella Add OldFella as a friend

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I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.

Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.

Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.

Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)


Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.

I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.

Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.



You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.

I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.

Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !



Totally agree that the lack of follow up questions meant DC had a reasonably easy time. PMQ should be a time for really challenging the PM.

The earth just moved. A sensible comment from NG.


 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Sep 15 6.59pm

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Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm

I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.

Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.

Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.

Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)


Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.

I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.

Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.



You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.

I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.

Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !



Totally agree that the lack of follow up questions meant DC had a reasonably easy time. PMQ should be a time for really challenging the PM.

The earth just moved. A sensible comment from NG.



Stalking again. How sad.

 

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OldFella Flag London 16 Sep 15 7.06pm Send a Private Message to OldFella Add OldFella as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 16 Sep 2015 6.59pm

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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.27pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.22pm

Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.14pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm

I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.

Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.

Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.

Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)


Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.

I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.

Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.



You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.

I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.

Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !



Totally agree that the lack of follow up questions meant DC had a reasonably easy time. PMQ should be a time for really challenging the PM.

The earth just moved. A sensible comment from NG.



Stalking again. How sad.

For sure. I have had many thousands of letters from all over the country asking me to put questions to any lefties I know, and thought in the new spirit of open democracy introduced by Comrade Corbyn that the HOL would be as good a place as any to start


 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 7.11pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

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Quote -TUX- at 16 Sep 2015 6.17pm

I kinda figured, what with you being such an avid campaigner and all that, you'd welcome the views of the electorate being aired.

I've not complained about the views of the electorate being aired.But 6 questions hardly reflect the public mood !

I would far rather Paxman ask the PM and really 'grill' him on his answers.Not "Comrade Corbyn" with his form of extreme socialism who just asks questions and never "drills down" into the reply.All very bland and soporific.



Obviously they do to many.

You look forward to PMQ's purely for the 'theatrical element'.
Go watch a play.

No, I look forward to PMQs for the cut and thrust of lively debate triggered by questions to the PM.


 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Sep 15 7.16pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

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I see some of the usual left wing chaps on here already in the denial stage.
Looking forward to anger and bargaining.

Corbyn can ask all he likes at question time but his face doesn't fit the 21st century. Sorry to be so cynical and broad stroke about it but that is the reality.

Doesn't matter really if his 'face fits' or not, or if people who'd never vote for him don't like him, the reason he is there is on the basis of a democratic mandate of the Labour party, by an approved process.

What disturbs me most are 'Labour Party Parliamentary members' who seem to think they're more important than the people who vote for them. It won't be Corbyn that sinks the party, it'll be members of the party throwing hissy fits because their own membership voted for someone they didn't want.

It'll like be the who 'Euro' schism of the Tory party that f**ked their own party in the 90s and early 21st century.


Nail on head.

However, I do actually believe that his face does matter. People who vote for personality and floating voters in general will not vote for this man. If Milliband was a liability for Labour then Corbyn will be like the Anti Christ.


I disagree. Miliband was pretty much a not to be taken seriously leader from the off and it got worse when the image conscious PR advisers got to him and failed miserably.

Corbyn operates on a different and higher, albeit more left wijavascripttylebut(0);ng, level. He will, i think, command a slightly begrudging respect from elements in all the parties and some of their voters. Something Ed was not able to achieve even from just within his own.

Perhaps, but the electorate will not vote for it.

I admired Tony Benn but I would never vote for him or Robin Cook or Michael Foot or any other left wing idealistic politician.

You will see.


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kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 16 Sep 15 7.17pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Corbyn reminds me of a harmless old metal work teacher I used to suffer the odd hours tedium with at school.
thick gruby cord strides.
would moan a lot about nothing to do with what he was meant to be on about, then tell you to get on with it and sit down & piss himself(slightly)

 


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