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Hrolf The Ganger 01 Jun 24 5.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That a lot of people have been fooled by Trump’s constant misrepresentation is true, but fooled they have been. This is a State level prosecution. Neither the DoJ, nor the White House, or the Democratic Party are involved. They would have been scrupulous in ensuring that not only is that true but that nothing exists capable of being presented as being true. The only thing that exists is empty innuendo and prejudice. The case was brought by the Manhattan District Attorney, who happens to be a Democrat. Which is only to be expected in New York. New York is where the crimes took place, so it was logical for the case to be heard there. If Trump had decided to retire after 2020, or at least withdraw from politics, then it is perfectly possible that the DA would have decided not to pursue the case on the basis that any harm done could not be undone, no more harm could be done, and so prosecuting was not a good use of public money. Trump though did not retire. He is offering himself again. In such circumstances the DA seems to have decided the people need to be shown the truth about this candidate and therefore pursuing the case is a worthwhile use of public money. That’s not a political decision. It’s a responsible one that any decent DA would take, whatever party they belong to themselves, or whoever was the candidate. I agree. Total bulls***.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 24 5.15pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
And if a higher court throws it out you will still spout on about them being fools. As I have already said I don’t think a higher court has the capacity to throw it out. They cannot overturn a jury decision. They can only rule on a point of law involving a direction given by the judge to the jury that was so wrong that it could have influenced their decision. Minor errors being ignored. It’s possible that it could happen, although it seems unlikely to me. However, should it happen the case would be returned to the lower court for corrective action, probably a retrial. Which is Trump’s likely aim, because, as with the other cases, it would then not be heard before the election and probably would never then be heard, whether he wins or loses. If Trump had any good in him I would happily recognise it, but I see none at all. Let alone bringing the world out of poverty! That’s hardly the aim of someone who puts America first! The only excuse I see for Trump is that must be ill. No one normal could behave as he does.
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steeleye20 Croydon 01 Jun 24 5.23pm | |
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Jon Stewart referring to Donald Trump. 'Count F**kwit von Clown-Dick'.
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cryrst The garden of England 01 Jun 24 5.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As I have already said I don’t think a higher court has the capacity to throw it out. They cannot overturn a jury decision. They can only rule on a point of law involving a direction given by the judge to the jury that was so wrong that it could have influenced their decision. Minor errors being ignored. It’s possible that it could happen, although it seems unlikely to me. However, should it happen the case would be returned to the lower court for corrective action, probably a retrial. Which is Trump’s likely aim, because, as with the other cases, it would then not be heard before the election and probably would never then be heard, whether he wins or loses. If Trump had any good in him I would happily recognise it, but I see none at all. Let alone bringing the world out of poverty! That’s hardly the aim of someone who puts America first! The only excuse I see for Trump is that must be ill. No one normal could behave as he does. If you watch him with veterans families at funerals or remembrance. You will see he’s very good and compassionate. Queue the ‘it’s for the camera line’.
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Stirlingsays 01 Jun 24 5.43pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Jon Stewart referring to Donald Trump. 'Count F**kwit von Clown-Dick'.
John Stewart, the guy who said Jews and Blacks should join together to get whitey.....and who has spent the last few years saying how terrible whites are. Yet I remember the John Stewart who first turned up pushing the all American guy routine. Yeah, I'll take a pass on John Stewart....he's lost a lot of that influence he once had.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 24 7.19pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
If you watch him with veterans families at funerals or remembrance. You will see he’s very good and compassionate. Queue the ‘it’s for the camera line’. You are right. He is good at that. I overlooked the fact that he missed his true vocation because, as was proved by his performances on “The Apprentice”, he is not a bad actor in certain types of roles. He is also good looking, in a way that appeals to some women and also the macho type of man. Every politician has to be able to act to a degree but Trump has nothing underneath. There isn’t any sincerity or genuine compassion for others. With everything he does his sole concern is how it has impacted his ratings. It’s the first question he asks.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 24 7.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Total bulls***. You can regard the opinions I expressed as bs. That’s your prerogative, even if you don’t attempt to say why. What cannot be bs are the many facts stated, Facts are facts.
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cryrst The garden of England 01 Jun 24 8.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You are right. He is good at that. I overlooked the fact that he missed his true vocation because, as was proved by his performances on “The Apprentice”, he is not a bad actor in certain types of roles. He is also good looking, in a way that appeals to some women and also the macho type of man. Every politician has to be able to act to a degree but Trump has nothing underneath. There isn’t any sincerity or genuine compassion for others. With everything he does his sole concern is how it has impacted his ratings. It’s the first question he asks. So his compassion in these situations is an act then iyo !
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Teddy Eagle 01 Jun 24 8.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You can regard the opinions I expressed as bs. That’s your prerogative, even if you don’t attempt to say why. What cannot be bs are the many facts stated, Facts are facts. Of course facts can be bs. That the Trump verdict was based on political reasons is only a fact because a jury chose to believe it.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 24 9.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Of course facts can be bs. That the Trump verdict was based on political reasons is only a fact because a jury chose to believe it. Untrue. A fact is always a fact. You can regard the reasons something became a fact as bs if you choose but the fact remains intact. No one knows why the jury convicted him. That was their decision to make and it hasn’t been revealed or even leaked. They were presented with evidence and a defence and reached their conclusion. Quickly and unanimously. The fact is they convicted him.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 24 10.00pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So his compassion in these situations is an act then iyo ! Everything Trump does is an act! There’s not a sincere bone in him. Biden doesn’t act as a “peodo” in any way. He is subjected to constant mud slinging and slander. His issue is not taking enough care over actions capable of being portrayed in that way.
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Teddy Eagle 01 Jun 24 10.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Untrue. A fact is always a fact. You can regard the reasons something became a fact as bs if you choose but the fact remains intact. No one knows why the jury convicted him. That was their decision to make and it hasn’t been revealed or even leaked. They were presented with evidence and a defence and reached their conclusion. Quickly and unanimously. The fact is they convicted him. How can it be a fact if opinion comes into it? What proof could be provided that he wasn't trying to conceal the details from his family?
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