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 Houston Eagle  Houston 31 May 24 4.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's not the Trump supporters who stupidly throw money at him who matter. It's the slice of undecideds in the middle and how they will move. Some will go each way. It's where the balance rests that matters. This is probably the closest comment that I actually agree with you! Only the continued blanket reference of stupid and Trump supporters in the same sentence I may disagree with! Extreme left and right politics are wrong in equal measure!!
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Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 31 May 24 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by Houston Eagle
This is probably the closest comment that I actually agree with you! Only the continued blanket reference of stupid and Trump supporters in the same sentence I may disagree with! Extreme left and right politics are wrong in equal measure!! I hope you noticed I didn’t suggest all Trump supporters are stupid. Some are merely misguided. Others who say they will vote for him aren’t supporters but are deciding between two poor choices. I think those pouring money at a man who claims to be super rich, but who are themselves often quite poor, are being stupid. Especially given his outpourings of obvious lies and nonsense. As we witnessed today in his “speech”. Which was excruciating to listen to it was so full of misinformation.
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| YT Oxford 31 May 24 6.58pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's not the Trump supporters who stupidly throw money at him who matter. It's the slice of undecideds in the middle and how they will move. Some will go each way. It's where the balance rests that matters. Gosh, I'd always wondered how voting worked. Thanks for explaining it.
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| Stirlingsays 31 May 24 7.10pm |
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The sheer arrogance of calling Trump supporters stupid when since Biden came in the economy has gone to the floor and inflation makes the lives of the poorer so much worse. But it's what we have come to expect. The Democrats and their supporters live in lala land....they still hold out hope. Here's the reality, unless they can fix the election (postal votes) and the rest of it such as social media manipulation and bans then currently they haven't got a hope in hell. Obviously they realise it's going to be hard for them to win. They have already started preparing their violent foot soldiers for a Trump presidency. They would have to try to fool the nation and change the leadership. But it doesn't look like Biden and Harris will play ball for several reasons. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 May 2024 7.12pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 May 24 8.05pm |
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Originally posted by YT
Gosh, I'd always wondered how voting worked. Thanks for explaining it. That though is not explaining how voting works! It’s an assessment of how Trump’s conviction will impact voting intentions.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 May 24 8.23pm |
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Not all Trump supporters are stupid. The stupid do though, in my opinion, tend to support Trump. Many traditional Republicans are very far from stupid and must feel very conflicted when faced with voting for a Democrat or Trump. Who is not a Republican. Trump is a populist hiding under a Republican cloak. The economy under Biden has not “gone to the floor”. It’s a commonly believed myth:- It has been impacted by the pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine along with everyone else but is performing better:- It would be better to get the facts right rather than posting misinformation alongside repeating standard prejudices. The problem the USA has is not its current economy. It’s the unsustainable level of indebtedness.
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| Stirlingsays 31 May 24 8.28pm |
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The irony of a 'globalist' complaining about a 'populist' and thinking it fulfils some moral aspect. It just reveals authoritarianism. Trump has to be the most investigated politician in the world. Democrats have spent tens of millions on him....If a fraction of this was turned on them...Biden for example god knows what will happen. We are probably going to find out as they will probably be reaping the same 'justice'....No more democrat judges and courts for them. That judge bent over backwards to get a conviction. Trump is guilty of running for president.....that's about it. Whatever happens there will be consequences from these choices. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 May 2024 8.31pm)
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| Matov 31 May 24 9.50pm |
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Trump's conviction had a glorious deliciousness to it. Like the final confirmation of just how stupid and scared the Democrats are of him. There is no going back now. When he wins in November it has to be the start of a literal full-on purge. There is no other option now. This could be the start of something beautiful.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 May 24 10.24pm |
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When there is absolutely no need to spend $1 on investigating Trump the idea that the Democrats have spent tens of millions is the most nonsensical thing posted here in a long time, and there’s a lot of competition! Trump does almost everything in plain sight, without even seeming to recognise his blundering. By contrast the Trump camp has been poking in Biden’s dustbin for years without turning up anything other than what is already known. That he has a troubled son who he tries to help and protect. Like every responsible father would. If Biden has though done anything wrong then put the evidence before a court and let due process ensure justice is done. Just as it has with Trump. The idea that there are Democratic Judges and Courts could have come straight out of Trump’s mouth. There are no such things. Whilst it is true that the way they are appointed is different to ours, with around half of state level judges being appointed by a Governor or Mayor and half elected, their sole loyalty must always be to the law. The Judge running the Trump case, Justice Merchan, has been a Judge for 18 years having been appointed by Mike Bloomberg when he was Mayor of New York. Bloomberg ran for Mayor as a Republican! By all accounts he is a mild mannered thoughtful man and very different to the way Trump tries to portray him. Merchan though did not find Trump guilty. Whether he bent over backwards or stood on his head would have made no difference. The jury gave their judgement after hearing the evidence and the defence. A jury selected after a long process in which the prosecution, defence and the Judge could reject those they thought might be biased. Due process was scrupulously followed at every stage. The bottom line being that Trump was found guilty because of what he did. Not because of those who did the finding. Those who think otherwise are being sucked in by the rhetoric of excuses coming from the Trump camp in their efforts to cloud the truth in a fog of misinformation and distortion. It’s possible to understand why some in the USA fall for these tactics but not here. We are far enough removed from Trump’s hubris to be able to see things as they really are. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (31 May 2024 10.25pm)
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| Eaglehamster Storrington 31 May 24 10.37pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The sheer arrogance of calling Trump supporters stupid when since Biden came in the economy has gone to the floor and inflation makes the lives of the poorer so much worse. But it's what we have come to expect. The Democrats and their supporters live in lala land....they still hold out hope. Here's the reality, unless they can fix the election (postal votes) and the rest of it such as social media manipulation and bans then currently they haven't got a hope in hell. Obviously they realise it's going to be hard for them to win. They have already started preparing their violent foot soldiers for a Trump presidency. They would have to try to fool the nation and change the leadership. But it doesn't look like Biden and Harris will play ball for several reasons. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 May 2024 7.12pm) You talk nonsense with absolute certainty. Absolutely laughable.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 May 24 10.38pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Trump's conviction had a glorious deliciousness to it. Like the final confirmation of just how stupid and scared the Democrats are of him. There is no going back now. When he wins in November it has to be the start of a literal full-on purge. There is no other option now. This could be the start of something beautiful. This kind of threat is being made by many in the USA now led, of course, by the trouble maker in chief, Trump. When so much of what happens in the USA is determined at State level and it requires a 2/3rds majority of both Houses AND 3/4 of all the States ratifying before the Constitution can be amended there is no easy route to actually doing much. Other than disrupt by making political appointments to important roles. Which would result in conflict and chaos. Trump could try to take emergency powers on a pretext but I don’t think Congress would permit him going that far. Beautiful it wouldn’t be.
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| Stirlingsays 31 May 24 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
You talk nonsense with absolute certainty. Absolutely laughable. Such a convincing counter argument thank you.
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