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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 27 Jun 23 4.41pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Davepalace707

Is he definitely staying for another year? Can’t find any announcement yet


Both Sky and the Beeb are reporting now as FACT rather than opinion or gossip. The reason there's no official announcement would appear to be that Roy has only given a verbal agreement so far ant won't be signing any contract until he returns from holiday.

I suspect the club leaked the news to their trusted journos.

 

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Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 27 Jun 23 4.57pm Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Both Sky and the Beeb are reporting now as FACT rather than opinion or gossip. The reason there's no official announcement would appear to be that Roy has only given a verbal agreement so far ant won't be signing any contract until he returns from holiday.

I suspect the club leaked the news to their trusted journos.

Cheers

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Jun 23 4.58pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by PJEagle

Let's see what actually happens. Roy and Ray made great use of the flair players already here. We've already made a great acquisition in Lerma. Since we only have one striker atm in Edouard I'm confident that at least one decent young striker will come in? There's a long way to go in the transfer window, and I think we have to be patient

TBF I think Palace fans are incredibly patient. I will support the club whatever but I totally agree with KBLF. I like Roy and fully appreciate what he has done but we need to move on at some point.
It seems the club have very little money to spend, even after 10 years in PL. Treading water is all we can do

 

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ambrose7 Flag Croydon 27 Jun 23 5.07pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

How many other Premier League clubs do you know appoint managers on 12 month contracts then?
I don't care what people come out with to defend the decision it makes no sense. Its simply delaying the inevitable

They don't do it for two reasons:

1) because they become a less attractive proposition so won't get a manager accept it
2) because it means they get f*** all compensation is a club poaches them.

The majority of the time, clubs would be better off appointing on 12 months if they can get away with it because they sack more than they get poached. Potter to Chelsea was the only poaching last year and Chelsea had to pay £21m compensation for him.

The beauty for Palace is that we aren't at risk of the two downfalls:

a) he is willing to take a 12 month contract.
b) no-one is going to poach Hodgson no matter how well he does. He could get us top 4 and United won't be appointing him next summer.

Given that 24 managers have left clubs in the past 2 seasons, I'd argue we're in a comparatively strong position burdened with only a 12 month contract. Half the clubs who currently think they're long term planning will be tearing that plan up during the season, and spending loads of money doing it.

 


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HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 27 Jun 23 5.07pm Send a Private Message to HesHereHesThere Add HesHereHesThere as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I strongly disagree.

We fall in the category of having not wowed the world by doing what so many have tried and a very, very few number of clubs have achieved but equally managing to punch above our weight a lot longer than most other clubs, including those bigger than us, have.

Challenging for Europe, a circa 50k seater stadium and a cup or two is the dream however many have busted trying to get there quickly and now languish outside the Prem. We have a Chairman who is a contextual pauper, one of the smaller and more rickety grounds, nearly went completely bust a decade and half ago plus we've been desperately clawing for survival the vast majority of the past decade, again as many others have and failed in doing, but we achieved that.

I don't deny anyone the dreams or aspirations (otherwise what's the point in being a football fan quite frankly) as well as the right to air their views on how things should be done, should of been done and what our direction of travel should be, from long term to match day team sheets.

Short term wants and longer term goals can exist together however and I would suggest appreciating the wider view of things, from the past to the future, is necessary alongside a want for 'x' player(s) in the transfer window, a manager who reflects some ambition, perhaps something to cheer beyond survival and hope beyond a single season.

Expecting, demanding or throwing a wobbly because all these things don't come at once or quickly is not something I feel obliged to vehemently defend the club from but something I do view as a bit silly, to say the least.

I too want an inspiring manager (not a dig at Roy), signings in the market, progress on the stadium and some silverware, even any micky mouse cup, and maintain the right to rant about this on any isolated occasion. My acknowledgement of the reality of our situation though is something which I can give a few thoughts to however and chill out once the initial emotion passes.

I've never harboured a desire for European football or a 50k stadium, top ten would do me and a cup run, but after 11 seasons in the PL I would have thought that we should be in a better position squad wise than what we are.

Zaha can't make his mind up what he's doing and that plays a major part in what we'll do in the transfer window - which in all honestly wouldn't be much anyway. We only have one left back, we've just renewed Ward, Clyne and Tomkins so that says something, and we've lost Macca and Luka (who should have gone ages ago anyway). Lerma might be good business but its not enough to stay in the devision.

So giving the managers job to a 76 year old because no one else wants it (which has to has to be down to lack of funds and working for Parish), then in my view its all a bit two bob really...not where we should be after £1.2-£1.4bn quid.

Edited by HesHereHesThere (27 Jun 2023 5.15pm)

 

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cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 27 Jun 23 5.17pm Send a Private Message to cROYdonrogers Add cROYdonrogers as a friend

All wrong about Roy. Off to AFC Croydon to manage his home town club.Nice one Wilf.

 

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Runningman Flag Keston 27 Jun 23 5.23pm Send a Private Message to Runningman Add Runningman as a friend

Originally posted by ambrose7

They don't do it for two reasons:

1) because they become a less attractive proposition so won't get a manager accept it
2) because it means they get f*** all compensation is a club poaches them.

The majority of the time, clubs would be better off appointing on 12 months if they can get away with it because they sack more than they get poached. Potter to Chelsea was the only poaching last year and Chelsea had to pay £21m compensation for him.

The beauty for Palace is that we aren't at risk of the two downfalls:

a) he is willing to take a 12 month contract.
b) no-one is going to poach Hodgson no matter how well he does. He could get us top 4 and United won't be appointing him next summer.

Given that 24 managers have left clubs in the past 2 seasons, I'd argue we're in a comparatively strong position burdened with only a 12 month contract. Half the clubs who currently think they're long term planning will be tearing that plan up during the season, and spending loads of money doing it.

Wholeheartedly agree with this

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 27 Jun 23 5.49pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by cROYdonrogers

All wrong about Roy. Off to AFC Croydon to manage his home town club.Nice one Wilf.


 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Jun 23 5.51pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by HesHereHesThere

I've never harboured a desire for European football or a 50k stadium, top ten would do me and a cup run, but after 11 seasons in the PL I would have thought that we should be in a better position squad wise than what we are.

Zaha can't make his mind up what he's doing and that plays a major part in what we'll do in the transfer window - which in all honestly wouldn't be much anyway. We only have one left back, we've just renewed Ward, Clyne and Tomkins so that says something, and we've lost Macca and Luka (who should have gone ages ago anyway). Lerma might be good business but its not enough to stay in the devision.

So giving the managers job to a 76 year old because no one else wants it (which has to has to be down to lack of funds and working for Parish), then in my view its all a bit two bob really...not where we should be after £1.2-£1.4bn quid.

Edited by HesHereHesThere (27 Jun 2023 5.15pm)

So I agree, completely agree.

I think I had recent (other) posters in mind HHHT so was nothing personal to you whatsoever or a dig just the general sentiment of yes things are frustrating and could or should be so much better but equally it’s still something of an achievement in another light and I’m therefore reluctant to complain.

I was trying to express that without negating your right to do so!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 28 Jun 23 11.46am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by HesHereHesThere

I've never harboured a desire for European football or a 50k stadium, top ten would do me and a cup run, but after 11 seasons in the PL I would have thought that we should be in a better position squad wise than what we are.

Zaha can't make his mind up what he's doing and that plays a major part in what we'll do in the transfer window - which in all honestly wouldn't be much anyway. We only have one left back, we've just renewed Ward, Clyne and Tomkins so that says something, and we've lost Macca and Luka (who should have gone ages ago anyway). Lerma might be good business but its not enough to stay in the devision.

So giving the managers job to a 76 year old because no one else wants it (which has to has to be down to lack of funds and working for Parish), then in my view its all a bit two bob really...not where we should be after £1.2-£1.4bn quid.

Edited by HesHereHesThere (27 Jun 2023 5.15pm)

I mostly agree with this. I have been astounded that after 10 years of PL money, our main mantra still appears to be, “let’s muddle through”, whether that be when we had one striker (who got injured), one left back, one right back, elderly players way past their best, etc etc.

It would be nice to start the season just for once with a full squad that gets a decent pre-season in.

I disagree that we haven’t enough to stay up. I think we probably have, but an injury to Olise has highlighted how painfully thin our squad is.

If we need money to expand the squad I’m all for selling Andersen or Guehi and Mateta/Edouard and bringing in Schuurs or Nelssen, Boey, Gyokeres and a loan to replace Wilf if he goes. Not sure how Plange or Ebiowei have got on and of course Rak Sakyi, but there appears to be consensus that they are not ready yet.

 

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SarfNorwoodAl Flag South Norwood 30 Jun 23 2.09pm

Still no news is Parish still on his sun bed or sorting his barnet out? They must be back for pre season training any time now so maybe Paddy will deal with that until Parish can be arsed to sort the manager situation out. They should rename our club Banter FC.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Jun 23 2.27pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by SarfNorwoodAl

Still no news is Parish still on his sun bed or sorting his barnet out? They must be back for pre season training any time now so maybe Paddy will deal with that until Parish can be arsed to sort the manager situation out. They should rename our club Banter FC.

Obviously, we're the only club where one player is bigger than the whole club. We all have to see what he does first. A ridiculous situation. Fair enough if he were Le Tissier but he isn't.

 


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