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Teddy Eagle 10 Dec 20 12.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
Did you fully read what he said or are you just ignoring the 'not used' bit Prior to the 1950s who would it have been applied to? In my memory it was the first term dropped since it was considered offensive.
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glazedallover Allier 10 Dec 20 12.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Do you think Barnes Wallis called his dog that name, as an insult to a race or because his dog happened to be a certain colour? Perhaps he should be erased from our history
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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Dec 20 12.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
So was I dude and you are seriously saying that it wasn't used as a racial slur. You have to understand that no one cared about political correctness back then. There was common decency and politeness but language very different. The use of that word was quite common,especially among oldr people, and mostly about description. I'm sure it must have been used as an insult too but not in my world. Obviously, you only have to watch old TV shows like Love thy neighbour to hear that there were a whole range of other 'colourful' descriptions for Black people but no one got too excited about it. Obviously we live in different times now and no one sensible wants to go back to insulting name calling. I only ever hear Black people doing it on TV nowadays and for some reason that seems to be OK.
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Spiderman Horsham 10 Dec 20 12.44pm | |
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Originally posted by glazedallover
Apologies. Wallis’s place in the history books is safe for now Edited by Spiderman (10 Dec 2020 12.46pm) Edited by Spiderman (10 Dec 2020 12.47pm)
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Spiderman Horsham 10 Dec 20 12.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You have to understand that no one cared about political correctness back then. There was common decency and politeness but language very different. The use of that word was quite common,especially among oldr people, and mostly about description. I'm sure it must have been used as an insult too but not in my world. Obviously, you only have to watch old TV shows like Love thy neighbour to hear that there were a whole range of other 'colourful' descriptions for Black people but no one got too excited about it. Obviously we live in different times now and no one sensible wants to go back to insulting name calling. I only ever hear Black people doing it on TV nowadays and for some reason that seems to be OK. My 90 year old mother-in-law, who I have never heard utter even as much as a swear word, had a dog in the 1930s called n. Nothing malicious intended just a name due to its colour.
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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Dec 20 1.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
My 90 year old mother-in-law, who I have never heard utter even as much as a swear word, had a dog in the 1930s called n. Nothing malicious intended just a name due to its colour. I was reading an old newspaper from 1955 the other day where I notice that a racing greyhound was called Black N..... Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Dec 2020 1.20pm)
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Belmont 10 Dec 20 1.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I was reading an old newspaper from 1955 the other day where I notice that a racing greyhound was called Black N..... Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Dec 2020 1.20pm) Maybe not in your insular world but my father certainly cared after fighting in the second world and as did his brother who fought in the first world war who were then treated as far less than equal and had that word used against them.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Dec 20 1.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
Maybe not in your insular world but my father certainly cared after fighting in the second world and as did his brother who fought in the first world war who were then treated as far less than equal and had that word used against them. Ok Belmont, is it still going on a lot now, do footballers need to tell us? Great respect for your kin. All of my family have always served too.
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Belmont 10 Dec 20 2.11pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Ok Belmont, is it still going on a lot now, do footballers need to tell us? Great respect for your kin. All of my family have always served too. In the same openly racist way as it was in the days of my father and uncle and when I was growing up no, but yes things still go on a lot now but I'm not going to waste my time explaining what I mean by that as I tried to do that before on these boards and I was told I was wrong in not so any words. But some posters on here seem to think if they can't see if happening it can't be.
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Spiderman Horsham 10 Dec 20 2.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
Maybe not in your insular world but my father certainly cared after fighting in the second world and as did his brother who fought in the first world war who were then treated as far less than equal and had that word used against them. Kudos to your relatives Belmont. I have no doubt the term was used against them in a derogatory manner. My point was that, in years gone by, the term could be used in other situations not just as a slur. I was in no way trying to imply it has never been derogatory
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CrazyBadger Ware 10 Dec 20 2.25pm | |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
There's no good reason for anyone to use that word. I find it abhorant but, if you can't see the difference in impact of it being thrown around by black people, in the direction of no one, compared to being used by white people as a derogatory term towards black people, you're a moron. What about Eminem? He's white and uses it all the time. As a white person,If I find the n word offensive for any reason, and in any context, (which I nearly always do) then why isn't the offender castigated for using it? just because they're black, so are allowed? Isn't that the very definition of racism; treating someone different based on The colour of their skin?
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Dec 20 3.10pm | |
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Yesterday, I turned on Sky Sports News, it was a speech about racism in football. Today, turned on Sky Sports News it was a piece on racism in football. Both times I immediately turned it off. It's not educating me - I have gone to football for forty years. I'm going to work out how to remove it from my channel list. Goodbye Jeff Stelling.
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