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npn Crowborough 03 May 17 11.10am
Originally posted by europalace €100bn? Wow, the UK should pay up and of course it will pay up but not admit to paying up, same old, same old, never ever admitting it makes a mistake. Even if the economy goes into more of a tail spin, the UK will never admit it and paint a 'rosy' picture on anything. A country can never move on until it admits its mistakes. Genuine question: why do you think the UK SHOULD pay up? That figure seems to have just been plucked out of the air (a la Diane Abbott). I certainly wouldn't pay a bill just because someone said "err, how about 100bn?". I'd want to see it fully broken down, and legal, not just "we are charging you as much as we can to put other countries off of doing the same" Of course we should pay what (if anything) we owe, but I have yet to see on what basis we owe anything (obviously I haven't read all the documentation, so I would imagine there are certain outstanding liabilities)
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Crowborough 03 May 17 11.10am

Originally posted by europalace

€100bn? Wow, the UK should pay up and of course it will pay up but not admit to paying up, same old, same old, never ever admitting it makes a mistake. Even if the economy goes into more of a tail spin, the UK will never admit it and paint a 'rosy' picture on anything. A country can never move on until it admits its mistakes.

Genuine question: why do you think the UK SHOULD pay up? That figure seems to have just been plucked out of the air (a la Diane Abbott). I certainly wouldn't pay a bill just because someone said "err, how about 100bn?". I'd want to see it fully broken down, and legal, not just "we are charging you as much as we can to put other countries off of doing the same"

Of course we should pay what (if anything) we owe, but I have yet to see on what basis we owe anything (obviously I haven't read all the documentation, so I would imagine there are certain outstanding liabilities)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 11.19am
Originally posted by matt_himself As a resident, and presumably taxpayer, in a Euro denominated country, you must be delighted with the effective leadership the EU has shown in resolving the Greek economic decisively and effectively. Why have one bailout when you can have many? Why also not cut off an economy for the drip feeding of taxpayers because it is a complete waste of money continue doing so? Could it be because of a perceive overriding necessity to continue the social and economic engineering job that is the Euro? How are you enjoying this 'rosy' scenario and seeing your tax Euros end up in the pockets of Greeks, whom have retired at 55? I don't think money is going into the pockets of ordinary Greek people.
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Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 11.19am

Originally posted by matt_himself

As a resident, and presumably taxpayer, in a Euro denominated country, you must be delighted with the effective leadership the EU has shown in resolving the Greek economic decisively and effectively. Why have one bailout when you can have many? Why also not cut off an economy for the drip feeding of taxpayers because it is a complete waste of money continue doing so? Could it be because of a perceive overriding necessity to continue the social and economic engineering job that is the Euro?

How are you enjoying this 'rosy' scenario and seeing your tax Euros end up in the pockets of Greeks, whom have retired at 55?

I don't think money is going into the pockets of ordinary Greek people.

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Kermit8 Hevon 03 May 17 11.19am
Originally posted by npn Genuine question: why do you think the UK SHOULD pay up? That figure seems to have just been plucked out of the air (a la Diane Abbott). I certainly wouldn't pay a bill just because someone said "err, how about 100bn?". I'd want to see it fully broken down, and legal, not just "we are charging you as much as we can to put other countries off of doing the same" Of course we should pay what (if anything) we owe, but I have yet to see on what basis we owe anything (obviously I haven't read all the documentation, so I would imagine there are certain outstanding liabilities) I believe we have signed up to projects and financial commitments that go way beyond our Brexit date so we will owe what is coming there and, i'd imagine, that would be reciprocal if some of that money has been marked for UK-based recipients such as Cornwall. for the sake of goodwill and our image to the rest of the world i hope we don't try and welch on htose outgoings. There is Hard Brexit and then there is sheer hubris and stupidity. Wouldn't put it past them though. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 03 May 17 11.19am

Originally posted by npn

I believe we have signed up to projects and financial commitments that go way beyond our Brexit date so we will owe what is coming there and, i'd imagine, that would be reciprocal if some of that money has been marked for UK-based recipients such as Cornwall.

for the sake of goodwill and our image to the rest of the world i hope we don't try and welch on htose outgoings. There is Hard Brexit and then there is sheer hubris and stupidity. Wouldn't put it past them though.

Big chest and massive boobs

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hedgehog50 Croydon 03 May 17 2.03pm
Nigel Lawson has wisely pointed out that the only significant contributors to the EU budget are Germany and the UK, and when the latter leaves, there will be "a huge improvement in the UK budget and a hole in the EU budget". Lawson agrees with Theresa May that no deal is better than a bad deal, adding: "I regret it looks as though we will have to settle for no deal." He believes the UK should offer the EU a "very good deal - a free trade deal with no strings attached in both our interests". "For political reasons, they may refuse it, in which case we wait patiently and we are out," he says. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 03 May 17 2.03pm

Nigel Lawson has wisely pointed out that the only significant contributors to the EU budget are Germany and the UK, and when the latter leaves, there will be "a huge improvement in the UK budget and a hole in the EU budget".
Lawson agrees with Theresa May that no deal is better than a bad deal, adding: "I regret it looks as though we will have to settle for no deal."
He believes the UK should offer the EU a "very good deal - a free trade deal with no strings attached in both our interests".
"For political reasons, they may refuse it, in which case we wait patiently and we are out," he says.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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davenotamonkey 03 May 17 5.53pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I don't think money is going into the pockets of ordinary Greek people. Certainly not from Malta. Perpetual net recipients of UK taxpayer money, 5th largest net per-capita recipients of UK taxpayer money (the Greeks beat them to 4th), 10x the representative power of the UK taxpayer. No wonder EUcucks like "EUropalace" loved handing over their short-lived sovereignty to the EU. They probably saw (someone else's) dollar signs. Will they finally start having to pay in, once we stop the gravy train? Edited by davenotamonkey (03 May 2017 6.43pm) Attachment: malta.png (21.38Kb)
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Originally posted by nickgusset

I don't think money is going into the pockets of ordinary Greek people.

Certainly not from Malta. Perpetual net recipients of UK taxpayer money, 5th largest net per-capita recipients of UK taxpayer money (the Greeks beat them to 4th), 10x the representative power of the UK taxpayer. No wonder EUcucks like "EUropalace" loved handing over their short-lived sovereignty to the EU. They probably saw (someone else's) dollar signs. Will they finally start having to pay in, once we stop the gravy train?

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matt_himself Matataland 03 May 17 9.37pm
Jean Claude Juncker is an interesting chap. See him here: [Link] Read this - fascinating (from an 'alt right' source): [Link] I cannot wait to see what I find next. Have no fear, I will post it here! "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 03 May 17 9.37pm

Jean Claude Juncker is an interesting chap.

See him here:

[Link]

Read this - fascinating (from an 'alt right' source):

[Link]

I cannot wait to see what I find next. Have no fear, I will post it here!

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Stirlingsays 03 May 17 9.45pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Jean Claude Juncker is an interesting chap. See him here: [Link] Read this - fascinating (from an 'alt right' source): [Link] I cannot wait to see what I find next. Have no fear, I will post it here! He pretty much represents the worse of the EU for me. Jean Claude Juncker is a complete arse. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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03 May 17 9.45pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Jean Claude Juncker is an interesting chap.

See him here:

[Link]

Read this - fascinating (from an 'alt right' source):

[Link]

I cannot wait to see what I find next. Have no fear, I will post it here!

He pretty much represents the worse of the EU for me. Jean Claude Juncker is a complete arse.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 10.22pm
character not policy assassination is still de riguer I see.
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Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 10.22pm

character not policy assassination is still de riguer I see.

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matt_himself Matataland 03 May 17 10.38pm
[Link] "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 03 May 17 10.38pm

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 10.43pm
[Link] Yanis speaks.
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Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 10.43pm

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Yanis speaks.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 10.44pm
Originally posted by matt_himself [Link] why don't you just put all the dirt in one post?
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Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 10.44pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

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why don't you just put all the dirt in one post?

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 03 May 17 11.06pm
Originally posted by nickgusset why don't you just put all the dirt in one post? Do you have an issue with your beloved EU being pulled apart by your beloved Grauniad? I can only imagine the pain it must give you. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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