My gut feeling is that it won't be pretty, there will be a few oohs and perhaps uh-ohs along the way but we'll somewhat stumble to a 11-17th place finish.

I think to not acknowledge the possibility of us getting through to April in an alright state and then picking up a few points in easier games, in what might constitute evidence for just missing out on a 'European push', is as ridiculous as not acknowledging things aren't great, we haven't won this year and still with a tough run in we could be bang in trouble soon, desperately needing to fight our way out to survive.

L'pool, City, BHA and Arsenal 4 of our 5 next games. The fifth is Villa and if we don't win that I think we could start really sweating. Brentford will look far more disastrous, the team perhaps further deflated and PV almost completely out of the door.

Up until April I am just hoping we keep our heads above water and then the real test will be performing and getting results from the more reasonable games to see us through another season. There are no guarantees however and I completely empathise with those displaying concern if not panic.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

I am not really 'Au Fait' with the reaction of Leeds supporters after the appointment of Javi Gracia but perhaps it was not too favourable.

He was not first choice and his record at his last 4 clubs in Europe show that his clubs lost more than they won but of course there could have been extenuating circumstances.
At Watford he took up the reins when they were 10th after 24 games and they finished in 14th place.The following season they finished 11th but reached the FA Cup final.
He was sacked the next season after 4 games with Watford bottom of the table.

I am beginning to entertain the thoughts that he will not save Leeds from the dreaded drop.

Edited by Willo (23 Feb 2023 11.11am)

They dont seem too happy thinking he will have to do till the end of the season as they couldn't get anyone else . Gracia hasn't been given a work permit yet so it might not even happen .

He is a long ball merchant , described as a Dyche with Spanish flair ,ie lump it forward without a decent centre forward . He nearly got away with it with Troy Deeney he wont with Patrick Bamford .
They are nailed on relegated for me with Bournmouth . The last place is anyones from us down . Though I expect us to finish well clear .

No doubt he will get his permit eventually , these things take time for some reason .
It will be a short stint though IMO

I'd love to see what PV's 'Plan C' might turn out to be but anything minus those two would likely be an improvement.

Perhaps, just maybe, we may discover sooner rather than later.

Can i just remind my distinguished fellow poster that 3 are relegated

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn