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hyacon2000 Flag gosport 21 Aug 18 5.28pm Send a Private Message to hyacon2000 Add hyacon2000 as a friend

Originally posted by hyacon2000

Ok its a big shame how the HF have reacted they have definatly underestimated the Englishness of CPFC we're not Juve or Roma.

However I can see what they we're hopefully trying to do it's a natural progressing maybe they shkuld have looked at other options or just carried on as they were I really dont understand tbh just gutted.

I understand the HF's support I mean I used to be one of the few travelling supporters going to the likes of Grimsby away and singing the whole 90 minutes supporting a poor Palace side but being proud to support Palace and get behind them no matter what

I am solidly against booing leaving early etc WE'RE SUPPORT YOU EVER MORE!!!

If the fans hide the players will I firmly believe our support as it has been has encouraged players to stay and be attracted to it players feel the love and support they see the displays and think yes c'mon the 12th man it can not be denied

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 21 Aug 18 5.29pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

but in this case from a monetary point, the requisite amount has already been spent by someone else on a block E ticket.

It isn't like the HF are saying we buy the ticket and pay the individual affected compensation.

An offer that an individual may or may not take up, but I expect they would be bullied out after a crictal mass has been reached.


Much more likely they want a HF ultra discount on premium tickets.


...and your definition of loyalty?

Edited by pefwin (21 Aug 2018 5.21pm)

As I suggested earlier on in the thread...the club need to plan this move/change of purpose etc at least a season in advance BEFORE tickets are sold there. That way those who wish to stay do so knowing that a change is coming but also they have the ability to make that choice. I'd also expect the club to provide some sort of financial recompense for those willing to move; beit a free ticket elsewhere or reduction over the next 3years..or even priority bookings on seats in the new stand.

There needs to be a pragmatic approach from all sides with enough notice given for people to weigh up their options based on the proposals; like adults.

I'm surprised that this hasn't already got underway if i'm honest.

 


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hyacon2000 Flag gosport 21 Aug 18 5.33pm Send a Private Message to hyacon2000 Add hyacon2000 as a friend

Originally posted by hyacon2000

If the fans hide the players will I firmly believe our support as it has been has encouraged players to stay and be attracted to it players feel the love and support they see the displays and think yes c'mon the 12th man it can not be denied


Frankly im pissed off about the whole situation we should move forward as a club together as we have been I feel this will take us back in time

 

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hyacon2000 Flag gosport 21 Aug 18 5.34pm Send a Private Message to hyacon2000 Add hyacon2000 as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

As I suggested earlier on in the thread...the club need to plan this move/change of purpose etc at least a season in advance BEFORE tickets are sold there. That way those who wish to stay do so knowing that a change is coming but also they have the ability to make that choice. I'd also expect the club to provide some sort of financial recompense for those willing to move; beit a free ticket elsewhere or reduction over the next 3years..or even priority bookings on seats in the new stand.

There needs to be a pragmatic approach from all sides with enough notice given for people to weigh up their options based on the proposals; like adults.

I'm surprised that this hasn't already got underway if i'm honest.

This

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 21 Aug 18 5.35pm

Originally posted by hyacon2000

If the fans hide the players will I firmly believe our support as it has been has encouraged players to stay and be attracted to it players feel the love and support they see the displays and think yes c'mon the 12th man it can not be denied

We agree the Englishness individualism of all, against the nature of an Ultra fan club (you must remember than their origin stem in such places as the 70s/ early 80s Fiat factories); you could laugh if you couldn't cry.

I don't disagree on the atmosphere point but that is no reason to throw supporters out of E.

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 21 Aug 18 5.35pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin


...and your definition of loyalty?

Edited by pefwin (21 Aug 2018 5.21pm)

Sorry, didnt see the final part. For me loyalty takes a number of forms...i'd suggest that those that go to games home and away paying their hard earned deserve to be treated differently to me as far as the club are concerned. It doesnt mean I love the club any less than these people its just that they've gone the xtra mile than me...which is fine. I went home and away for a couple of seasons straight as I was able to, but now life has moved on and i can't.

I only got a couple of season tickets this season; first time I've had a season ticket for a good 15years as I still play football both Saturdays and Sundays but wanted to be able to be in a chance with getting tickets in the new stand when built...(there's that monetary loyalty thing again)...sadly its symptomatic of the modern game and as such sometimes you have to 'play the game' in order to get what we want.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 21 Aug 18 5.41pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

As I suggested earlier on in the thread...the club need to plan this move/change of purpose etc at least a season in advance BEFORE tickets are sold there. That way those who wish to stay do so knowing that a change is coming but also they have the ability to make that choice. I'd also expect the club to provide some sort of financial recompense for those willing to move; beit a free ticket elsewhere or reduction over the next 3years..or even priority bookings on seats in the new stand.

There needs to be a pragmatic approach from all sides with enough notice given for people to weigh up their options based on the proposals; like adults.

I'm surprised that this hasn't already got underway if i'm honest.

Quite interesting and worth proper analysis.

on the assumption that there would not be restricted standing in place so soon.

Should any people barging into Block E without tickets be ejected?

Should the club pay or the HF for the cost implications?

Should it be funded by HF usage of CPFC copyright material in their own displays and promotional content?

edited as loyalty answered.

Edited by pefwin (21 Aug 2018 5.42pm)

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 21 Aug 18 5.46pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

...sadly its symptomatic of the modern game and as such sometimes you have to 'play the game' in order to get what we want.

Similar to me in some regards, but are the HF "playing the game"?

 


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VKR1888 Flag London 21 Aug 18 6.08pm Send a Private Message to VKR1888 Add VKR1888 as a friend

Originally posted by hyacon2000


Frankly im pissed off about the whole situation we should move forward as a club together as we have been I feel this will take us back in time

The whole situation is the making of the HF. It is frankly embarrassing their behaviour. Acting like spoiled children.

Do any of you support their behaviour?

What right do they have to move supporters who have potentially been there more than they have lived.

We are undergoing work on the stadium so surely then we have a chance to look at reorganisation.

What is wrong with the current area? They are not only hurting the team, the other fans but themselves with this approach. I used to try and get close as it was good fun being in that area. What are they all doing know. Sulking, watching the games on TV.

Parish could do no more and all they are doing is hurting the club they supposedly love.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Aug 18 6.21pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by VKR1888

The whole situation is the making of the HF. It is frankly embarrassing their behaviour. Acting like spoiled children.

Do any of you support their behaviour?

What right do they have to move supporters who have potentially been there more than they have lived.

We are undergoing work on the stadium so surely then we have a chance to look at reorganisation.

What is wrong with the current area? They are not only hurting the team, the other fans but themselves with this approach. I used to try and get close as it was good fun being in that area. What are they all doing know. Sulking, watching the games on TV.

Parish could do no more and all they are doing is hurting the club they supposedly love.

I think their 'boycott' was misjudged. However, there is a bigger picture beyond egos and selfishness which is about club image and match day atmosphere.
Ultimately, the owners have to do what is best for the club and it might be that upsetting a hundred or so supporters is necessary for the greater good.
If someone offered me two years free season tickets, I would snatch their hand off, especially as there will be another 6k seat available soon and people will probably shuffle around.

 

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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 21 Aug 18 6.42pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

so what is the latest word then from the HF? and club response..

 


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SamCPFC17 Flag Croydon 21 Aug 18 7.14pm Send a Private Message to SamCPFC17 Add SamCPFC17 as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'An alternative view on last night's atmosphere' by Midlands Eagle

I've been standing towards the back of Block B for a good few years, and whilst there have undoubtedly been worse atmospheres than last night's during that time, it has to be said that Selhurst really was very quiet yesterday evening.
I won't discuss the HF situation here as there's already a thread on that, but what I would like to highlight is one non-HF related reason why I thought the atmosphere was so muted last night: the people who've moved in to the front of Block B.
First and foremost, does anyone know whether the majority of them are season ticket holders or just day trippers? Either way, whilst at the back of the Block we really were trying our hardest to get the noise going, those at the front seemed, to me at least, to be more or less entirely silent all game.
Doubtless I'll be accused of telling other Palace fans how they should support their club here, but I really had hoped that those who took up the space left behind by the HF (as they have every right to do) would at least join in with the songs starting at the back, and provide that link in the corner between Blocks A/B and the Arthur.
But, as aforementioned, the first 10ish rows seemed more or less totally quiet all game. Did anyone else notice/have a view on this?
I'm not trying to be disrespectful to those who had tickets down at the front (some of whom, for all I know, might actually still be HF), but we really could've done with their help last night.
We don't know when the HF will be back, so we've got to try and make the best of the situation we're in, which at the very least means getting all of Block B rocking - hopefully things will improve in this regard over the coming games.

 

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