For me rabid right are those who would reject something out of hand, without assessing it. There is looney left as well.

Its a reasonable piece, in that it discusses the claim and presents a counter point and explanation and refutations. It doesn't say there isn't a problem, but that maybe the problem is overstated, how the problem occurred, how singular events aren't evidenced and how the situation maybe be exaggerated for political reasons, whilst still stating there is a problem.

A mile away from the 'Sky is Falling, End of Civilisation' approach of the Tabloid media.

For example that the reason that there has been a massive increase in those targeting the tunnels, stems from the security measures implemented elsewhere.

Is mine the only computer that showed these questions? All very good ones Danny and I thought at least one of them deserved an answer.

For me rabid right are those who would reject something out of hand, without assessing it. There is looney left as well.

Its a reasonable piece, in that it discusses the claim and presents a counter point and explanation and refutations. It doesn't say there isn't a problem, but that maybe the problem is overstated, how the problem occurred, how singular events aren't evidenced and how the situation maybe be exaggerated for political reasons, whilst still stating there is a problem.

A mile away from the 'Sky is Falling, End of Civilisation' approach of the Tabloid media.

For example that the reason that there has been a massive increase in those targeting the tunnels, stems from the security measures implemented elsewhere.

The infrastructure point I guess depends on where you sit on the economic fence. Given the lack of schools, housing, hospitals etc. there's a strong economic case to argue that a massive boost in capital expenditure by the government would lead to a greater long term recovery.

The current government's approach, whilst it has steadied the ship in the short term has only really papered over the cracks; a lot of the recovery has been because of the non-stop rise in house prices, fuelled by the lack of supply.

All the while there's little to no investment in roads/schools/housing/hospitals then we will struggle.

I know it's a common view that "there's no space" however there was a study from the John Smith institute recently (I'll try and find it) which estimated that about a million new homes could be built on 3.4% of the green belt. I know we need to keep this country green and pleasant etc. etc. however that's a bloody lot of houses for not much sacrifice.

I apologise profusely for a sensible post.

Edited by DanH (12 Aug 2015 10.54am)

Then I refer you to my reply. Only very stupid people would think that no immigration controls would be advisable, or that anyone here thinks that.

In fact the left are far more likely to start with preconceived ideas. Examples are public services are better than non-public services; all immigration is beneficial; certain terrorist groups like the IRA and Hamas can be excused to some extent because we like their cause; the USA is totally evil; communism was not nearly as bad as fascism; multi-culturalism works and is beneficial; the EU is wonderful and we should stay in at all costs; we should not have sufficient armed forces and weapons to protect ourselves; we must not change anything in the NHS and continue to pour ever increasing amounts of money into it; South Africa has a wonderful government and people should keep quite about Zimbawe; people should be prosecuted and their careers ruined for making the slightest critical reference to non-heterosexuals or non-white or non-Christian people. Any evidence to the contrary concerning these attitudes is ignored by the left - ever more convoluted arguments are put forward to prop up these sacred cows. Yet you call the right narrow minded and blinkered, it is like Quasimodo telling you that you have rounded shoulders.

Edited by leggedstruggle (12 Aug 2015 10.54am)